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[_Pax._]

Heheh, just giving you shit, man. I know now everyone keeps usernames/real names straight, etc, etc.

... your real name isn't Critias?

::cry:: I've been lied to all these months! ::cry::


j/k, of course. ^_^

[Lionhearted]

Surprised you guys don't add on your handles for such things, to help out us with reality impairment..

[Stahlseele]

there is a list for these things on somewhere dumpshock actually i think . .
but we are lazy too.

[Lionhearted]

Yeah what a bothe double checking and matching names... Atleast Patrick and Trollman makes it easy for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Stahlseele]

Well, Patrick at least.
Trollman was banned.

also, new Update:

[ Spoiler ]

As promised last time around, we want to give you a little bit of insight into the plot of the game. Now I don’t mean to fill this with spoilers, so we will take a peek into the story and learn a bit more about how we want to treat story progression in Shadowrun Online.
Now, as you know, SRO will be kind of an MMO and kind of not. Many backers have expressed their wish to run with their friends and we totally want that too, but it isn’t as simple as it sounds. Anyone having played MMOs may have experienced the effect of different progress speeds. You start off with your friends but then some of them or you may not be able to keep up with the progress speed of the group and then someone gets left behind. For a while there, the others help him or her progress, but that member is missing important raids and after a while drops from the group. This effect is even more pronounced when you add different platforms in and take our mixed model of campaign and free to play accounts in consideration. So how are we tackling this?
Well, first of all, unlike many solo-RPGs, we don’t think of the game as a linear main-story with side-quests. We think of it as experiencing different phases – chapters if you will – in a continuing development of the 6th world (well, the little corner of the world on our servers) as the meta-plot moves towards certain key events. So, from the get go, you of course experience YOUR version of the game, stringing together your specific path of progression inside the plot, which becomes your unique story, but that isn’t the same for everyone. It is also clear, that the rest of the people on the server contribute toward the advancement of the game world.
Obviously, with the world being moved forward by all the players, we don’t want to leave anyone behind or put off newcomers, which is where the phases come in. Many of our runs consist of ‘mission boxes’, so they aren’t necessarily linear and it is up to the player how to tackle them. For example: Your Johnson – an overworked and desperate Ares officer – contracts you to stop a marauding bunch of psychotic gangers on some new drug. These guys have holed up in different locations, indiscriminately killing the inhabitants. Now, depending on your team, you may want to tackle the ones hiding away in the talismonger’s shop or the guys barricaded in at the Stuffer Shack, or the guys burning cars on the street corner or the ones holding hostages in the office building etc. We don’t force you to do all of them – though you are free to do so. Once you’ve secured a certain number of locations, you may discover a common pattern to the craziness of the gangers, unlocking the next mission box for you and thus progressing the plot. Once enough other players have advanced this far, Ares will hire a strike against the drug distributors and a new global mission box will unlock for all players, perhaps offering a special mission for those who have a good standing with Ares. And there may be a mission box on top of that, dealing with stopping the drug from being produced at all. All of those mission boxes may in turn improve Ares’ standing on the megacorp ‘leaderboard’, influencing the next layer of missions to be unlocked (for instance, other megacorps might start hiring operatives to do sabotage runs against Ares). Many of those boxes can be played at different power levels, at least within a certain tier of power. So while there is a slow, server wide-progression that coincides with the collective effort of runners, new players may just see parts of the boxes and once they advance into the appropriate power tier, Ares might have already been brought down a notch. By then, NeoNet might want you to steal a shipment of those drugs for examination in their SOTA lab. So, while it technically means you play the same mission map with the same goal (get to the shipment of drugs), the mission context changes and so does your personal story – and of course, enough of those runs add up to NeoNet gaining an advantage on the corporate ‘power board’, unlocking new global missions from or against them.
So what does that mean for you and your group? Well, for one, you don’t have to do every mission in order, one after the other, making it easier for runners that ‘missed’ a mission somewhere to join the team. Secondly, your group may do runs together, or each player may do them at different times to team up again for the ‘next’ unlocked mission box. And last but not least, if you are at different levels, you can still play the same missions, even though your characters are on different ‘power levels’ and both, you and your chummers, profit from it. And all of you contribute to the standing of your favorite corps, which sweetens the deal.
We have several tiers of power in the game, which coincide with plot phases. So after a while your runs will lead you deeper into the scheme of the game and to more juicy missions. This finally leads you to where all the factions/corps involved are scrambling to control ..well, the ultimate mission box of the campaign. We will see an all-out shadow-war for something unique that holds the key to some of the 6th world’s most interesting secrets… and no, it isn’t an artifact J. The struggle can take the form of actual PvP against other runners or joint and coordinated PvE conflicts (think of it as all of one faction adding their successful mission completions up against the other factions) within a given timeframe.
The goal here is to open up the classical MMO structure and to mix this with the experience of a dynamic world, while allowing you to select your personal mission path in the world you help shape. We want you to play with your group (or potentially your association, or network, or whatever term we will find for ‘guilds’) no matter whether you have been running the shadows together for the past few weeks, or just happened to find the chance for a spontaneous session now. We also want you to later on join forces with other players when the stakes are getting higher, without requiring 30 people to be there at the same time to do a massive raid.
It is an ambitious goal and it may sound slightly complicated, but we hope in the game it will play fluidly and feel natural.
One thing we need to do in order to keep control is to lock you down in certain locations. All MMOs do this in one way or the other (the world geography ends at some point, areas unlock over time), but we went all the way and actually lock you down as a story element. In fact, even the campaign book for SRO will be called Lockdown! Instead of finding some weird mechanic to stop you from veering off the course, we actually decided to make that a cornerstone of the story: The city you play in is on lockdown. Nobody gets in or out. And this means resources are scarce and a lot of Johnsons need extra hands to help them, as most law-keeping forces and corp armies have their hands full enforcing the lockdown. With a total lockdown, a lot of things (including most virtual connections) get cut off, which means fewer prying eyes. An ideal situation for people with shady businesses to get their work done, for gangs to take advantage, for old feuds to be settled (the hard way), for power grabs and for straight forward havoc on the streets. The city is plunged into chaos, as violence erupts amidst a desperate struggle between several corps, who hire every disposable asset they can. This equals a lot of blood in the streets and even more work for the Shadows. And so, a city is left to its own devices while a shadow war wages… who wouldn’t want to be part of this?
And, to give you a little teaser of the story, it all starts with a blurry trideo recordings of a dragon suddenly emerging from an underground complex in mid-town, writhing in agony and then going totally crazy, killing hundreds of people in a mad frenzy, laying waste to a corporate arcology, leaving a weird trace of iridescent rain… and a whole city having to deal with the aftermath. Welcome to Shadowrun Online: LOCKDOWN!

[Stahlseele]

Looking odd/looking good
http://www.shadowrun.com/shadowrun-online/...ation-goodness/

[Stahlseele]

http://www.shadowrun.com/shadowrun-online/...-assorted-news/
Iiinpuuut!

[Stahlseele]

Ah damn it <.<
http://www.shadowrun.com/shadowrun-online/.../status-update/

[ Spoiler ]

Hoi Chummers,

there is a major event rocking our world here at Cliffhanger Games and it also affects Shadowrun Online. As promised, we want to remain transparent and open about what happens inside the project, so here is the rundown on things.

The good news is: We have been able to procure an investor for our company. Not a big one, mind you, but it allows us all not to starve to death while developing games. The money will enable us to develop a better Shadowrun Online while remaining independent on content decisions. As you may remember, we have put our own money – and of course the Kickstarter budget we received through your generous support – into SRO already. We’re also facing the tough job of creating a MMO-like game across platforms, which means a lot of the money has gone and will continue to go into this technology.

We remain dedicated and focused on providing the best possible game with our limited means and we want to put even more of our money into it so we can get it done in the way we envision, based on our ideas and your feedback. We still have to make ends meet and won’t be able to put in every feature we (and our friends in the forum) hoped for; if you compare budgets with similar projects, it is a massive challenge to make SRO the game we want it to be with the resources we have available and we promise that we’ll do our best.

One trick we used to overcome that challenge was developing a technology which can be shared with several of our games so we could spread the cost for this part of development across more than one budget. The fruits of this will first be seen with our upcoming ÆRENA game – a hero based, tactical arena combat game set in an Ætherpunk world.
http://www.shadowrun.com/shadowrun-online/...mit-logos22.jpg
ÆRENA shares a lot of technical backend features with SRO and is developed by our second team at Cliffhanger (we mentioned it earlier when it was still a side project). Don’t worry though, only some of the basic and underlying functions will be transferred from ÆRENA to Shadowrun Online. The gameplay will be quite different and the setting will be typical Shadowrun.

The original plan was to release a beta for SRO about three months after ÆRENA. However, now we have the opportunity to get more realized. We can afford to put in more work, hire some new people and also transfer some people from the ÆRENA team to help with Shadowrun Online which is great! But, as it usually is, there is some bad news alongside the good: It will delay the SRO beta release until end of Q1 next year. We will do our best to get as many features into the game and enable you playing an earlier version sooner than that, but we will definitely not be ready this year.

We understand that delaying SRO impacts every single one of you and we apologize for that, but it really is a decision for the good of the project. The fact that we have sold a part of our company to an investor so we can make a better game shows our dedication to SRO and the Shadowrun Universe. We hope to have your continued trust in us to do what is right and best for all of us – to create great player experiences.

Now, we know some of you have been waiting for a long time and we cannot do anything but ask for your patience and forgiveness. Weighing all our options, we believe that this is really the best course for the game. In the meantime, we will invite you to have a peek at ÆRENA in a few weeks so you can pass the time until SRO with a solid tactical turn based game and we would love to hear your feedback on it!

As always, BIG Thank You to our fans and supporters – to all of you!

On another note: Shadowrun Online participates in an Austrian Content Award Survey based on public voting. Everyone willing to register on the site can take part (as the site is in German only, please click here for a guide on how to sign up). We would appreciate your vote and continued support by spreading the word – every little helps. Click here to vote: http://www.contentaward.at/voten/917

Thank you all! Stay tuned for more! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

primetide

[Bigity]

At least it's (hopefully) the right kind of delay.

[Stahlseele]

i just got a mail
with my invite for the early access release on monday the 31st of march

[KarmaInferno]

I procrastinated too long and missed the kickstarter.

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-k

[Fabe]

i just got a mail
with my invite for the early access release on monday the 31st of march

So any word when we peons who didn't contribute to the kickstarter will be able to play?

[Stahlseele]

So any word when we peons who didn't contribute to the kickstarter will be able to play?

if i remember correctly, the word was june or july . .

[UGEplex]

So any word when we peons who didn't contribute to the kickstarter will be able to play?

They said tomorrow, March 31st @ 9am PST, for $30 = Windows PC only Steam Early Access, includes a Campaign account when Shadowrun Online officially launches. Mac support coming ASAP, Linux support later too.

[Stahlseele]

it can be installed via steam by now

[Stahlseele]

It is VERY MUCH ALPHA


it's also 30% off on early access on steam right now

only 35€ for the deluxe package

[Critias]

I got my codes and junk, just haven't had time to play it yet (and likely won't for at least a week or so).

[hermit]

Plays like a rough early version of SRR. I kinda wish they'd harmonize controls more with SRR; if anything, it'd make traversing between systems that much more pleasant.

Shooting through walls is kind of annoyingly regular. And yes, it is very, very Alpha. Very.

[Sendaz]

Sooo...you are calling it a AAA? (Alpha of an Alpha of an Alpha) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Iduno]

also, new Update:

[ Spoiler ]

I remember (possibly because it really happened) that the SRR and SRO stories were related somehow. It sounds to me like the end of SRR dragonfall and the SRO beginning vision might be the connection.

[Stahlseele]

I remember (possibly because it really happened) that the SRR and SRO stories were related somehow. It sounds to me like the end of SRR dragonfall and the SRO beginning vision might be the connection.

SRR is somewhere between SR3 and SR4 and SRO is between SR4 and SR5 though i think . . So not really sure how that's supposed to be compatible with each other . .

[Blade]

Played the 4 missions. I'm not very impressed.
The mood is nice (music is great, the dialogs give some character to the PCs) but so far the gameplay lacks depth.
It would be ok alongside a full-blown RPG (as in SR:R) but if it's to be the core of the game, then it's not enough.

[Iduno]

I was thinking about this game recently. Their plans were way beyond reasonable, they had massive server issues during launch, and it was based on the CFD plot. But I still enjoyed it quite a bit. I think the crew was big on ideas and feeling, and tried, but didn't really think things through before doing them.

While the skill tree was too short (you could max out an entire skill tree pretty quickly, or more likely several. That was the cause of many other terrible design/balance decisions.) and didn't really branch (most levels were a choice of 2 things), it was an interesting idea. You put skill points into decking or pistols or magic or whatever weapon, and you got 2 weapon slots as well as body and willpower trees (if I remember correctly). So you could be a summoner and a mage, or a decker and a mage, or whatever. And you could experiment without building a brand-new character. But characters felt both different and fairly well-balanced the entire game. Well, pistols having a ~50% chance of getting another shot every time they shot, and the procing off itself was a bad idea. Then they decided you should get all of the bonuses from weapons you don't have equipped as well, so people had a place to put skill points after halfway through the game.

The metatype and background combination still made the game characters interesting, because you specialized before you started. You'd get something like 10% extra damage, more crits, longer-lasting summons, or extra hitpoints. I played an extra-critty human pistoleer at the start, then changed because it was so obviously overpowered (pistols did the second least damage, each weapon 1 point less than the next. But higher-quality weapons each added +1 damage). I also played a rigger/decker for a while to be able to clean up enemies everyone else couldn't finish off. But my favorite was an ork (extra damage and HP?) who took the "dancer" specialization. Fewer hitpoints, but I got a dodge bonus. Even late-game enemies with their 150% chance to hit or whatever would still miss me somewhat regularly. I'd also play with shotguns (ranged and a melee stun), hammers (melee, with stun and mobility), and swords (mobility and melee). My weird utility build with high mobility meant I felt like I was contributing in a way most other people weren't.

The dress-up part of the game making everyone look different was pretty cool, too.

There were a lot of problems with the game, but it would be nice if someone took some of the good ideas and built on them, and knew what to avoid. Having "no LOS needed" low-damage hacking, next to med-damage shotguns, or AoE magic, or summons and having them feel balanced through most of the game was cool. Pushing everything into late-game meant only one style usually got used. There was a fair amount of roleplay early-on, and costumes, and experimenting with weird characters. Let people feel like a team of specialists, give lots of choices, keep the immersiveness with the world, but come up with a less-terrible story, and plan for players to actually play the game a lot.