Solid Tires Options

[Paul]

What's the old joke Science Fiction stops being Science Fiction and starts being Science Crap when it can't account for modern technology in an internally consistent manner.

[Draco18s]

Typically it's 30-35 psi, but you shouldn't go with what's on the tire: what's on the tire is the maximum safe PSI for that particular tire. Tire inflation is dependent upon car factors more than tire factors, so you should always go with what's in the book over what's on the tire.*

Tire, book, whatever.

[3278]

Well, no, for the reasons I already explained and then some, the recommended tire pressure in the manual and the max psi of the tire may well be radically different from one another, and it can be an expensive and dangerous mistake to conflate the two, but you're absolutely right: when someone helps you learn something new, the polite and reasoned response is "whatever."

[Draco18s]

Well, no, for the reasons I already explained and then some, the recommended tire pressure in the manual and the max psi of the tire may well be radically different from one another, and it can be an expensive and dangerous mistake to conflate the two, but you're absolutely right: when someone helps you learn something new, the polite and reasoned response is "whatever."

Irrelevant point is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

[Snow_Fox]

In WW2 the Italian army used solid tires. They couldn't be punctured BUTif they developed a crack- like from rough roads, over use, or gun fire, they would crumble and fall apart. Personally i'd rather spend extra for the run flaty tires or even drive on rims

[Christian Lafay]

What about those truck treads they used to sale on late night informercials. http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/i...2/track11-1.jpg

[Draco18s]

What about those truck treads they used to sale on late night informercials. http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/i...2/track11-1.jpg

Just don't get any jury rigged sticky bombs on them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Christian Lafay]

I'm honestly surprised there aren't "hover" vehicles. If two skimmer discs can let a troll glide over the floor then I imagine half a dozen could get a bike and a dwarf mobile.

[Snow_Fox]

There were in earlier games, are you saying they're not in 4th ed?

[Christian Lafay]

Not to my knowledge.... They have the huge hover boats that like to run over Jackie Chan, but that's it.

[Snow_Fox]

Dang, another reason not to upgrade

[Paul]

Irrelevant point is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

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[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Dang, another reason not to upgrade

Not really, just take the previous edition vehicle, provide it with conversion stats to bring into 4th edition, and viola, Hover bike (or whatever). That is what I am doing. may take a bit of time, but who cares.

[Daylen]

Dang, another reason not to upgrade

Seems SR is sliding backwards in tech, talk about degrading society.

[3278]

Dang, another reason not to upgrade

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't ever recommend switching from SR3 to SR4, but it's possible that the vehicles you're talking about do exist in SR4. While vehicles in SR4 are a goat rodeo - whole classes missing, no standard suite of classes or consistency between them - it's possible that what you're looking for has been covered, either by a single model in SR4 itself, or by a model or two in Arsenal, or in a PDF since then. What class are you talking about?

[Tech_Rat]

What about those truck treads they used to sale on late night informercials. http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/i...2/track11-1.jpg

Looking for these?

I'm honestly surprised there aren't "hover" vehicles. If two skimmer discs can let a troll glide over the floor then I imagine half a dozen could get a bike and a dwarf mobile.

Don't worry. They're in arsenal.

[Fortinbras]

Dang, another reason not to upgrade

SR4 didn't negate any of the stuff from other editions like some other fourth editions I could name.
If it was in Shadowrun, it's in Shadowrun. It shows up in the SR4 art now and again, too. My team is rather consistent about "renting" a hover limo when they need a high altitude extraction.

Maybe no ones printed up the stats for the things yet, but if they did, everyone on this forum would decry them as "broken."
You like hover bikes; have hover bikes in your game. Stat them yourself before the next book does.

[3278]

Looking for these?

And here's what they look like on my car.

[Christian Lafay]

I've flipped through Aresnal a few times and must have overlooked it... Little help?

[3278]

I'm not a particular fan of these overly-complex non-pneumatic tire [NPT] designs, but if you're interested in NPTs, keep an eye on the Tokyo Motor Show, starting in a couple of days: Bridgestone is set to show an NPT made of recycled rubber and thermoplastic resin that's a new take on a standard design. It's also another nice way of showing that "runflat" doesn't have to mean "modern air-filled tube with some kind of sealant" or "solid rubber band around a metal rim."

[Seriously Mike]

There were in earlier games, are you saying they're not in 4th ed?

They're in Arsenal, "Special Tires", p. 106, lower left corner. I kitted my adept's ride with them.

[3278]

I'm not a particular fan of these overly-complex non-pneumatic tire [NPT] designs, but if you're interested in NPTs, keep an eye on the Tokyo Motor Show, starting in a couple of days: Bridgestone is set to show an NPT made of recycled rubber and thermoplastic resin that's a new take on a standard design. It's also another nice way of showing that "runflat" doesn't have to mean "modern air-filled tube with some kind of sealant" or "solid rubber band around a metal rim."

Here's a video of the NPTs in question. Novel solution to a common horizontal load problem, but they still have durability, safety, and temperature challenges to overcome before they see widespread deployment, like all NPTs.