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post Feb 25 2005, 02:51 PM
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That's really not true, otherwise people could never interact. You didn't ask his true name, merely the name he wants to be known as to the public. Icewing is not his true name, nor is it Dollmaker or Ghostwalker or any other of the many things he may be called. I don't see that you did anything out of place.
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post Feb 25 2005, 03:06 PM
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But you can't make fun of people for not doing anything out of place.
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post Feb 25 2005, 03:56 PM
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Stupid question. Anyone know sprethiel?
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post Feb 25 2005, 04:22 PM
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Gypsy already spoke to it once in that language, but that seemed to be overlooked. I figure he'll try again though.
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post Feb 25 2005, 05:28 PM
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Backgammon: I tried to hand the social thing off to Dogma, as that is his specialty. When I made the post about it being his cue, I naturally thought that he knew at least a little bit of Sperethiel. I checked his sheet afterwards, but by then it was too late, so I left it as it was to see how things panned out.

Sorry mate. I didn't mean to steal the spotlight, but unless Pale-and-Scaly decides to communicate in a different fashion, there's not much choice.

One alternative is for you to have Dogma do some of the talking in the future, and just post that Gypsy is doing the translating for you.

Or he could start to learn Sperethiel and become a civilized elf! :P ;)
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post Feb 25 2005, 05:38 PM
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Just a reminder that dragons tend to speak telepathically when dealing with metahumans (that's why Dunkie needed a 'translator.' Thought speak isn't picked up by mikes), and there hasn't seemed to be a problem with what language the metahuman thinks he's speaking in. We just have to think real hard at Ghostwalked to make him understand us.
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post Feb 25 2005, 05:51 PM
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That might not necessarily hold true for the Fourth World (I don't know for sure though). All I know is that Sphynx stated that the 'words' used by the dragon were in Sperethiel, and that he implied that the dragon did not understand the resulting answers from the rest of the team.

Gypsy could also use Mindlink, and I considered going that route, but he is kinda fatigued at the moment, so I figured that it would be better not to try.
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post Feb 25 2005, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Sandoval Smith)
Hey, HMHVV, one thing I'm wondering about Rebo: why is he convinced that ALL magic is psi power? It just seems kind of strange.


That's the psionicist mindset; that magic isn't "magic" at all, but the workings of the human mind and the psychic power that comes from it.

That's also why he refers to spirits as "extra-dimensionals."

The basic rules are in Magic in the Shadows.
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post Feb 25 2005, 06:42 PM
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Yeah, and PSI forms kinda suck... but that wont keep tev from pestering him about them.
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post Feb 25 2005, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
Backgammon: I tried to hand the social thing off to Dogma, as that is his specialty. When I made the post about it being his cue, I naturally thought that he knew at least a little bit of Sperethiel. I checked his sheet afterwards, but by then it was too late, so I left it as it was to see how things panned out.

Sorry mate. I didn't mean to steal the spotlight, but unless Pale-and-Scaly decides to communicate in a different fashion, there's not much choice.

One alternative is for you to have Dogma do some of the talking in the future, and just post that Gypsy is doing the translating for you.

Or he could start to learn Sperethiel and become a civilized elf! :P ;)

Yeah, I know, but it's sorta cool this way. Obviously I'm our best asset when negociating comes up, but it's fun to be in a situation when your best asset can't be used (like street sams without guns!). I considered having you translate what I say, but I figured you were an elf too, which maybe the dragon would like, you knew more about magic, dragons, 4th world and all that stuff and were generally well suited to hold negociations. I'll probably ask you in a future post to let me know what you're saying and what he's saying once conversation gets underway.

So if you fail, you will be responsible for all of our horrible deaths. No pressure ;)
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post Feb 25 2005, 09:30 PM
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Again. Dont let the dragon eat me.
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post Feb 26 2005, 09:48 AM
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Time to Eval the GM if you don't mind.

Watching other games, I see that my GM style seems to so greatly differ from others as to almost seem like a completely different gaming system. Where other games take weeks just to get started, our game has done more than most games ever will I think. My concern is that maybe you think I'm going too fast, like the numbers on the sheet don't matter as much as in other games since we so rarely have roll-the-dice events (we have alot of them, but I usually just don't mention what dice I rolled for players and just tell the story the way the dice rolled).

I don't mind some good criticing, I'd rather be told to change than lose the game, so please don't hold back if you hate certain aspects. :P

Anyhows, will have Karma posted soon, and I think ES_ is the only one I'm waiting on (will double check) to do a weekend IC post. So you may see an early post this week. :)
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post Feb 26 2005, 10:36 AM
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How do you work Karma Pool? Do we apply one of the awarded Good Karma points towards it (when we have accumulated enough), or is the addition to the Pool considered to be a seperate entity. I have seem both variations used in the past.
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post Feb 26 2005, 12:03 PM
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You have to place one of your own karma into Karma Pool. It's not a freebie in my games.
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post Feb 26 2005, 12:05 PM
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That's cool. I figured it's better to ask beforehand than it is to assume and be wrong.

Not quite there yet anyway, being an elf and all. :)
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post Feb 26 2005, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter @ Feb 25 2005, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Feb 25 2005, 07:59 AM)
Hey, HMHVV, one thing I'm wondering about Rebo: why is he convinced that ALL magic is psi power? It just seems kind of strange. 


That's the psionicist mindset; that magic isn't "magic" at all, but the workings of the human mind and the psychic power that comes from it.

That's also why he refers to spirits as "extra-dimensionals."

The basic rules are in Magic in the Shadows.

I don't have my copy of MitS with me, but that's not how I remember the description. Although the rules for psi-powers are exactly the same as for magic, psi-users believe that theirs come from their mind (thus saving the pain of having to make any sort of seperate rules for psi powers). So any magic that _they_ do is psi powered, but not the magic that most everyone else does.

It seems rather ridiculous to try and claim that _all_ magic is psi related, because there is too much evidence to the contrary. It'd be a stance that wouldn't be able to stand up in a high school debate, much less confrontation with any other magic user.

Sphynx, as for the game, I think that it's going really well, and moving quickly, because you try hard to keep people posting regularly. A great success in all regards.
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post Feb 26 2005, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Sandoval Smith)
QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter @ Feb 25 2005, 01:41 PM)
QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Feb 25 2005, 07:59 AM)
Hey, HMHVV, one thing I'm wondering about Rebo: why is he convinced that ALL magic is psi power? It just seems kind of strange. 


That's the psionicist mindset; that magic isn't "magic" at all, but the workings of the human mind and the psychic power that comes from it.

That's also why he refers to spirits as "extra-dimensionals."

The basic rules are in Magic in the Shadows.

I don't have my copy of MitS with me, but that's not how I remember the description. Although the rules for psi-powers are exactly the same as for magic, psi-users believe that theirs come from their mind (thus saving the pain of having to make any sort of seperate rules for psi powers). So any magic that _they_ do is psi powered, but not the magic that most everyone else does.

It seems rather ridiculous to try and claim that _all_ magic is psi related, because there is too much evidence to the contrary. It'd be a stance that wouldn't be able to stand up in a high school debate, much less confrontation with any other magic user.

Sphynx, as for the game, I think that it's going really well, and moving quickly, because you try hard to keep people posting regularly. A great success in all regards.

The book says:

"An awakened character who follows this path believes ALL magical abilities spring from the unleashed power of the human mind."

Also, there was an entry in an old book called "Awakenings: New Magic in 2057" that was written by a psionicist. He held the same attitude that my character does, except he was a lot more venom-filled, saying stuff like, ""Forget all the fairy-tale drek, forget spells and spirits and all that drek, it's just your brain working its own "magic" on electromagnetic energy...No skin off my nose if you'd rather believe you're some fantasy-mage type with a magic wand..."

So while psionics acknowledge that others might BELIEVE that they're working "magic," they don't believe it really is magic.

In any case, it's a fun role-playing experience for me, trying to avoid using common terms like "spirits" and "magic energy" in favor of "extra-dimensional entities" and "psi power."
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post Feb 26 2005, 10:37 PM
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I don't see any problems with thinking all magic is in fact psi. Obviously a psi got a good boost from the Awakening, but it could be held up that all magic is merely applied will, and spirits manifestations of will.
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post Feb 26 2005, 11:24 PM
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Sphynx, I love the game, I'm not posting regularly because I'm not always in the story, so I only post when its relevant, rather than trying to draw the focus to me when it isn't required. I do appreciate you trying to draw me in the story more, and I'll post to accomodate.
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post Feb 27 2005, 03:39 AM
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I gotta say this is an AWSOME game. The posting 5 days at a time is kinda tough, but it really keeps it moving. 3 of us are in "Yarrrr" and look how slow thats moving in compairison.

And Woooo for being a human. 2 karma pool here I come!
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
Sphynx, I love the game, I'm not posting regularly because I'm not always in the story, so I only post when its relevant, rather than trying to draw the focus to me when it isn't required. I do appreciate you trying to draw me in the story more, and I'll post to accomodate.

It's a vicious cycle. You aren't 'in the game' as much because you don't post as often. Even a post that describes your reaction to something, even if it isn't actually furthering the present action, will cause your character to be more involved.
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:23 AM
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If you dont post, you get abused by dragons. Case in point, Me! There was a reason i got smacked between rocks (cause up to that point I posted mabey 3 a week, and have stopped worrying about making good long involved posts and just getting the ideas out).
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post Feb 27 2005, 06:25 AM
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My evaluation:

I really like how this game is progressing. Everyone seems to be more or less involved, and things are moving along nicely. I wish all PbP games moved this fast; I'd join more of them if they did.

On a side note, I won't have regular access to the internet next week (from about the 5th to the 13th). I'll do what I can to post every day, but I can't guarantee anything.
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post Feb 27 2005, 07:18 AM
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Fortune, while I realize that, but if I go over here, and start cleaning my drones, then some other people do things, getting ready, and discussing, then some more talking ensues, while I'm still over there cleaning drones, and so on. I dunno, I figure talking takes a lot less time that doing other things, so I stay out while I'm preoccupied. Anyway, I'm not complaining about my lesser karma, because I'm posting less, thats fine. Just saying, I'm glad he'll make an effort to get me more involved, which will cause me to post more.
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post Feb 27 2005, 08:12 AM
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Don't forget, you don't always have to post what you intend to do, but also, what happened. The best posts are the ones where someone re-describes what I described, from their character's perspective. Good PBP storytelling looks a bit like this:

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That way people get a feel for your own character, stuff they wouldn't see in a "Then I:" sort of post. :) In games I play in, when I have nothing further to say, I tend to either purely roleplay (look at the B&E thread), or post the past (ES_S did a fabulous job of that in her karma-awarded post).

Just thoughts to help. :)
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