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Sir Randel
post Aug 18 2005, 11:12 AM
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Any news on System Failure and Shadows of Latin America ?
Even if, with the Beresina of the SR4 pdf release, i don't expect any.
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post Aug 18 2005, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (SL James @ Aug 9 2005, 07:11 PM)
FUCK FANPRO

Having been on this board for less than a month and a half, your position was becoming more and more clear as the opinion and perspective of Fanpro and the freelancer community, but I appreciate that you finally just admitted it.

I'm not a fanboy. I never will be.

If you truly were no fanboy, then you wouldn't get so obsessed over this.

Admit it to yourself. You are a fanboy.
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post Aug 18 2005, 10:02 PM
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I'm not obsessed. I saw an affront to my role as customer made by someone saying the seller wasn't interested in my business.

That's not about being a fanboy. That's about thinking that if a business thought like that, then they would and should deserve to lose customers.

But I already said on the SR4 forum that I am now glad this book hasn't been released after seeing what happened to California. I can live without that, thank you.
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post Aug 18 2005, 10:29 PM
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So, anyone at Gencon got a status update on this book?

Or, uhh, are they releasing an SR3 product after SR4?
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post Aug 18 2005, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (SL James @ Aug 18 2005, 04:02 PM)
I'm not obsessed. I saw an affront to my role as customer made by someone saying the seller wasn't interested in my business.

That's not about being a fanboy. That's about thinking that if a business thought like that, then they would and should deserve to lose customers.

But I already said on the SR4 forum that I am now glad this book hasn't been released after seeing what happened to California. I can live without that, thank you.

Yet you just...can't....stop....posting on the SR4 board? :rotfl:
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post Aug 18 2005, 11:26 PM
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I like to hold out some scintilla of hope.

May I also suggest a less eye-burning color next time you try to make a point?
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post Aug 19 2005, 07:03 AM
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This red was really hurting...
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post Aug 19 2005, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (SL James @ Aug 18 2005, 05:26 PM)
I like to hold out some scintilla of hope.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Oh ya, you are no fanboi at all. No, you are Angsty Stalker Fanboi.


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May I also suggest a less eye-burning color next time you try to make a point?


You may.
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post Aug 19 2005, 01:30 PM
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Keep it up, Blakkie. Don't post on the topic at hand, don't argue anyone's points, don't comment on the subject anyone else is commenting on -- just call people names, but do it in defense, rather than criticism, of SR4 so that you don't get in trouble.

*big thumbs up* Way to be.
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post Aug 19 2005, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (Critias)
Keep it up, Blakkie. Don't post on the topic at hand, don't argue anyone's points, don't comment on the subject anyone else is commenting on -- just call people names, but do it in defense, rather than criticism, of SR4 so that you don't get in trouble.

*big thumbs up* Way to be.

The thread topic seems to have shifted there somehow, so i think you are talking to the wrong person. :D
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post Aug 19 2005, 04:53 PM
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Meanwhile, I'm starting my new Shadowrun campaign in a week. It'll be an SR3 campaign. Set in 2056.

Anyone care to guess how much stress I feel at FanPro's release schedule?

Not trying to balance myself on the bleeding, groaning edge of the game world was a conscious decision for me. System Failure or no, it'll be at least a year, maybe two, before SR4 is adequately supported with all the accessories for experienced GMs to make a smooth knowledge transition. Until then a lot of people trying to convert are going to be stressing out over 'ware or setting details that aren't in the core book, or else they'll simply split from the canon.

By setting my campaign retro, I have a huge wealth of material to pick and choose from, including old adventures and story arcs I've run for other groups. I'm sure I'll eventually pick up SR4 and look at it, but I feel no urge to jump into it; if I ever use it it'll be a methodical, comfortable transition into a supported and proven product.

And I'll be able to pretend that System Failure came out first. >8->
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post Aug 19 2005, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (SFEley @ Aug 19 2005, 10:53 AM)
Meanwhile, I'm starting my new Shadowrun campaign in a week.  It'll be an SR3 campaign.  Set in 2056.

Anyone care to guess how much stress I feel at FanPro's release schedule? 

Not trying to balance myself on the bleeding, groaning edge of the game world was a conscious decision for me.  System Failure or no, it'll be at least a year, maybe two, before SR4 is adequately supported with all the accessories for experienced GMs to make a smooth knowledge transition.  Until then a lot of people trying to convert are going to be stressing out over 'ware or setting details that aren't in the core book, or else they'll simply split from the canon. 

By setting my campaign retro, I have a huge wealth of material to pick and choose from, including old adventures and story arcs I've run for other groups.  I'm sure I'll eventually pick up SR4 and look at it, but I feel no urge to jump into it; if I ever use it it'll be a methodical, comfortable transition into a supported and proven product. 

And I'll be able to pretend that System Failure came out first.  >8->

Ya, even though the SR4 BBB has a lot more 'advanced' stuff in it than the SR3 BBB (like Initiation w/a few basic metamagics, bioware, Athletics rules, edges & flaws, some critters, etc.) if you try to bridge over an entire existing highlevel team with piece-by-piece accuracy you'll be home-rolling stats for a lot of equipment, metamagic, etc.

Starting a new campaign in SR4 though should work ok, as long as you aren't a group that advances PCs quickly IRL time.
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post Aug 22 2005, 08:17 PM
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So any news from GENCON concerning SoLA & SF ?
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post Aug 22 2005, 08:44 PM
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SoLA will most likely see PDF release at some point in the next few months. Notice all the contingencies/vague statements there? They're there for a reason. There are no plans for a hardcopy release, just the PDF, and it's not a high priority.

I arrived at the seminar late, but was told second hand that there was POD order placed for System Failure to have it at GenCon. The printer fell through. (Apparently, FanPro US has gone through 5 printers in the past two years.) Based on that, I'd guess (this is me guessing from something I heard second hand) that it'll hit distribution in late September to early October.
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post Aug 22 2005, 10:12 PM
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Ok, Thanks.
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post Aug 23 2005, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (Sir Randel)
Any news on System Failure

The German SR homepage has a short preview-PDF online titled "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung" (in English "General Protection Fault"). It's an excerpt from the German add-on chapter to System Failure.
According to this the Crash 2.0 happened on November 2, 2064.
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post Aug 23 2005, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (M¥$T1C)
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Any news on System Failure

The German SR homepage has a short preview-PDF online titled "Allgemeine Schutzverletzung" (in English "General Protection Fault"). It's an excerpt from the German add-on chapter to System Failure.
According to this the Crash 2.0 happened on November 2, 2064.

WTF? In SR the stock exchange is open on Sundays, and Novatech is choosing that day of the week to float their IPO?
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post Aug 23 2005, 10:04 AM
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Bah, written by the stupid childish german anarchists. I'll buy the english version, hopefully it won't contain that childish stuff.
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post Aug 23 2005, 04:35 PM
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Ah, but remember. The German Anarchists' stuff is still canon, so you (probably) need to know it anyway.
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