Gun designs don't change in that manner. The M-16A2 has been in service for damn near 30 years, and it has not changed in any significant way. The AK-47 has been used since the end of WWII and with cosmetic exceptions it hasn't changed since, in any way that would overly matter anyway. (I know the ak-47 has evolved but not to the point where it would matter to this discussion)


Now, it can be argued that tri-pods don't in fact connect to the under-barrel of a weapon in the first place, only bi-pods do. Tri-pods act as a cradle for the weapon and are usually mounted just slightly forward of the trigger, so that would mean that a Ares Alpha COULD be mounted but the AK-97 could not. But you would only get 1 grenade, just in case you haven't looked the grenade launcher is a manual pump action.

I mean just the Smartgun itself.

Ok, you have to start using the Quote feature because i have NO idea what you are talking about.

That's what I'm asking what do you mean.
I see absolutely nothing in the fluff text to indicate what you are saying abou the vehicle.

Ah, yes. But look at all sample drones, even the security ones have a pilot and therefore system score of 3.

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Of course, the manufacturer could have just been cheep and it has a system of 4 but only a pilot of 3

Ya, i get the 3,000 worth of Pilot software thrown in as a bonus.

It has that going for it over the Maglock(1), and wheels. But i'm really leaning towards the Maglock for it's strong points, the 100 price.

Yes, same for the Firewall and System. I'm just talking bargins here though. No need to Pir8 when The Man does it for you.

A skinlink would make a smart firing platform kind of redundant. You could usually get more out of your own skills. Unless you could mount it to the back of a cybertorso. Then that would be highly advantageous. You wouldn't have to turn armound to shoot people who are trying to sneak up on you.

I actually misread/misunderstood Ben initially. However even when deploying the platform the skinlink would allow you to still give the platform commands (at a touch), where as disabling wireless entirely would require you to either DJ into it or flip the wireless back on and then spend the action to jack out or turn off the wireless again after you gave it the command.

It would depend heavily on intended use, whether or not you wanted to give it new commands between setting it down and leaving it and then returning to it again.

.....dang, I just checked and you're right.

Well, that's a change since SR3. Doesn't really fit with the appearence of the weapon in the little picture, honestly. And personally, I'd rather have the pump action. Lets you load a particular kind of grenade on the spot by putting it in the tube, then working the pump action and firing. ("Hmm... I've got five Concussion grenades in my launcher, but this situation calls for White Phosphorus. Five years ago, I could have grabbed a WP from my bandoleer, loaded it, pumped and fired in less than 3 seconds. Now I have to eject my clip, load in a WP round, reload the clip, and then fire and it might take 6 seconds. Progress sucks! Even if the rifle does play .mp3's of punk rock during combat!")


Well, whatever. It is what it is.

Like all of them Ares Alpha comes with integral smartlink.

But yeah. Same amount of time used to get the same effect.

Heh. Yeah, I suppose I should have considered that the runner would probably have had the foresight to load the alternate kinds of grenades into their own clips ahead of time.

(Although, you will be dropping your clip in that scenario, I suppose that's a non-issue when you suddenly find yourself needing a different kind of grenade on short notice.)

For purposes of style, however, I still miss the pump-action grenade launcher.

Just for note... "Pump Action" doesn't necessarily mean it can't be clip fed... Unless you're assuming pistol/rifle/whatever style firing mechanism, where the force of the "shot" ejects the grenade shell. Which might not be the case here.

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I know that the first thing on my mind when firing grenades all over the place is leaving as few traces of my presence as possible. "In and out like a ghost", that's the motto of every shadowrunner with a diverse set of grenades for his grenade launcher.

No wait... it's not.

-Frank

But they need to be in wireless mode to detect that, no?

What i was refering to is if you pick a clip back up off the ground that has a grenade type you want to change back to (Simple Action), eject the current clip (Free Action), and insert the clip you just picked up (Simple Action), you don't have time to fire till the next IP. Basically it's mostly a one-way trip to the ground until you've got some free time. Of course i guess you could have duplicate clips of given types, but eventually the GM is going to start asking awkward questions about all the bits of gear you have so readily available for use.