Daegann
Dec 5 2005, 10:46 AM
> Hi all,
There are some photos I found for inspiration. Those photos come from the last convention at COEX, Seoul and an other exhibitions last year in Daegu.
gallery> Daegann
And here I was, all set to mock and ridicule the fashionistas. Sadly though, it looks pretty accurate to me.
Presuming, of course that by "inspiration" you didn't mean....
hobgoblin
Dec 5 2005, 01:08 PM
interesting

sadly tho, they realy need to make those displays look like thick sunglasses...
Daegann
Dec 5 2005, 02:11 PM
> I agree that some picture and stuff are ridiculous. However their are also great things (especialy about technologies includes on those wearable things, but it's not visible... ) For example, on some picture you can see model with a kind of stick. It's a special stick which "translate" any letter you write in the air into a document file in a wireless HDD.
About sunglasses, they already exists and we have some examples on those picture (not the most fashion, I agree). Smart sunglasses exists in more fashion form, I saw one of them during my travel in Korea and wow they was cool ^^. However the distance between the eye and the display was to close for me. I guess smartglasses on the photos give a better confort. Anyway It's the begining of the Augmented Reality era ^^
> Daegann
Arethusa
Dec 5 2005, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (hobgoblin) |
interesting 
sadly tho, they realy need to make those displays look like thick sunglasses... |
They need to make those displays look like thin sunglasses.
hobgoblin
Dec 5 2005, 06:28 PM
well, right now they look more like the visir of la forge or cyclops. if they can make them look like sunglasses, alltho a bit thicker so as to make room for the lcd screens, it will be a big improvement from today.
when i say thick i dont talk 10+ cm thick, i talk 2-3 cm thick.
thin sunglasses are in the area of 1cm, not something that can be done with the tech of today...
a diffrent problem is being able to walk around while using them, much less driving or similar while using them...
Lindt
Dec 5 2005, 06:44 PM
Wow, looks like the fashion design dept. got let out again.
Todays homework problem is: wearable computers.
I dont wanna see looks, I wanna see working hardware.
hobgoblin
Dec 5 2005, 06:59 PM
working hardware? thats the small black box that all the wires connect to, and that you either stuff in your pocket or hook to a belt or similar...
or maybe better yet, forget the wires, go bluetooth and wifi...
i can trow together a concept quite fast, problem is the user interface...
Come on Lindt. Personal electronics are all about fashion even now. Ask your girlfriend how she chose which cell-phone to buy.
Lindt
Dec 6 2005, 04:18 AM
Heh. She got the one that played MP3s as ring tones. Its yellow.
Arethusa
Dec 6 2005, 04:45 AM
Is there some reason that almost everyone here always assumes style is esclusively a feminine 'flaw?'
Critias
Dec 6 2005, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (Arethusa) |
Is there some reason that almost everyone here always assumes style is esclusively a feminine 'flaw?' |
Because it's been linked to femeninity, and homosexuality. Guys are "supposed" to stomp around in dirty jeans two sizes too big and untucked t-shirts two sizes too small, needing a shave, with mussed up hair, without having bathed for a day or two.
Just ask...y'know...commercials.
QUOTE (Arethusa) |
Is there some reason that almost everyone here always assumes style is esclusively a feminine 'flaw?' |
Touche; you caught me stereotyping. My bad.
To balance things out, I'd like to observe how most guys' character sketches look like they've stepped out of a soap-opera casting call. Better?
Snow_Fox
Dec 12 2005, 07:55 PM
Heck, I have enough trouble hiding a gun under a jacket now, never mind in those outfits!
Dog
Dec 14 2005, 03:52 AM
I hope with all my heart that you mean that in character.
RunnerPaul
Dec 15 2005, 12:25 AM
Normally, I don't read too much into filenames in an online photogallery, but
Miss Johnson 2070 makes me wonder if someone's trying to throw in an inside joke.
Snow_Fox
Dec 16 2005, 04:23 AM
QUOTE (Dog) |
I hope with all my heart that you mean that in character. |
uh, no. but I do have a permit to carry a concealed firearm.
Arethusa
Dec 16 2005, 06:02 AM
I'm actually very curious how you manage to conceal a weapon. Pretty much everything I wear is fitted. In the winter, I guess I could conceal a weapon under jackets or a hoody, but in the summer, there is just no way to do that with a form fitting tshirt and relatively fitted, low rise jeans. I have no practical experience even trying any of this. Just curious how.
RunnerPaul
Dec 16 2005, 06:20 AM
QUOTE (Arethusa @ Dec 16 2005, 01:02 AM) |
I'm actually very curious how you manage to conceal a weapon. Pretty much everything I wear is fitted. |
I was going to point out a scene from the old Spenser: For Hire tv show and the really creepy thing, is when I googled to try to find the quote, I turned up an old post of mine from ShadowRN where I'd mentioned the scene in question:
QUOTE |
I'm reminded of the old detective drama that used to be on TV a while back, Spencer: For Hire. For those of you who never watched that show, there was a character by the name of Hawk, played by Avery Brooks, who is a perfect example of how a upper-tier street samurai would act.
There was one episode where Hawk, and his detective buddy Spenser were roughed up by some local organized crime goons. In the fight, Hawk's designer suit-jacket is torn. Later in the show, Hawk confronts the crime-boss responsible, and demands a $1,000 payment to replace the jacket. The crime-boss tells Hawk that the suit isn't worth that much, to which Hawk replies with something along the lines of "It's not just the price of the threads. My jackets need to be tailored so they don't show the buldge of heavy artillery." at which point Hawk flashes his huge magnum revolver. He ends up getting the money. |
Snow_Fox
Dec 17 2005, 03:10 AM
I think Avery Brooks' Hawk was the sterotypical Street Samurai. In the show he carried a massive long barrelled .44 magnum revolver.
Men can have their suits taylored to hid weapons but that's a heck of a big pice. You need an extra fold of cloth to be fitted where you carry the gun. larger guns have to be under the arm, because there is a natural hollow there and you can hide the bulge with your arm. There also should be extra cloth accross the back to hide the strap of the holster accross your shoulders. That's an advantage we have over men. A strap accross our backs will probably be thought of as a bra strap.
That is the only advantage women have. business suits are even more strictly taylored. They are supposed to show off waist and hips. A gun in the purse is worse than useless. You won't get to it if you need it fast and if it comes out sooner you will just escalate it all.
Personally when not dressing for work I like "boyfriend" jackets. that is it looks like a man's jacket, a little bulky on you but the length of the arms is that is is clearly made for a woman's arms, smaller than the bulk of the waist or shoulder of the jacket implies. Under that I can wear a beretta cheetah in a shoulder or hip holster. For SR terms think of a light automatic. beretta 200T, or a ceska.
Sure not too much hitting power but I'm small and don't have the bulk to hide something too big. plus I don't need much.
Under a long coat this time of year I can get away with a S&W .357 with a 4 1/2 barrell in a hip holster, for game purposes-think superwar hawk, but I'm happy with what I carry normally.
If you just wear jeans and fitted t-shirts, you're screwed. Without a jacket a loose shirt, untucked, might hide a gun from a casual observation but it won't be comfortable and if you usually dress sharply, the change will make people wonder. probably your best bet is an ankle holster with a small gun, a .32 or beretta tomcat.
Jestercat
Dec 17 2005, 01:21 PM
Super Warhawk ain't no .357, though that is a pretty beefy pistol. I just don't get why you need it. At close range, wouldn't you get more blow-throughs, losing a lot of the stopping power of the gun? You're not *trying* to make a big exit wound are you?
hobgoblin
Dec 17 2005, 02:51 PM
hmm, a woman that knows guns, you got to like that

anyways, back to the wearable computer stuff, check this from orange:
http://www.orange.fr/content/ge/high/lunet...ttes-video.htmlits in french but the animations should be simple enough to understand.
when they are that stylish one can get away with using them
Snow_Fox
Dec 17 2005, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (Jestercat) |
Super Warhawk ain't no .357, though that is a pretty beefy pistol. I just don't get why you need it. At close range, wouldn't you get more blow-throughs, losing a lot of the stopping power of the gun? You're not *trying* to make a big exit wound are you? |
I go shooting with a friend often. For target shooting my favorite load is the .357 with .38 specials. With that firing at a standard pistol target at 25 yards I can score between 40 and 50 consistently. I bought it brousing in a gun store, waiting for them to bring up a shirt in my size from storage. It was being sold on consignment for $200. It had been on the shelf for about an hour, having just been cleaned and labels that morning. A beutiful piece they do not make it like htis any more, litterally. blackened finish, walnut grips, 4 1/2 inch barrell. The guy behind the counter said "I knew this wouldn't stay for long.'
The previous owner hadn't treated it well. I found the cylinder tended to jamb shut. A couple of trips back to the store, where I got to go in the back room with their gun smith to see what was going on. We found the past owner had not really cleaned it well after using it and lots of crud had been worked into the inner workings. We had the girps off and practically had it down to the frame. Since then it shoots like a dream. I take care of my toys-
And all this gave me a real good insight into the workings of guns and gun smiths for SR.
The .380's in the beretta is a good reliable weapon but it lacks take down power.but it is also well known to me and I am satisfied that if needed I could use it to good effect.
Mr.Platinum
Dec 17 2005, 11:39 PM
I know fashion can be part of reputation and i have been interested in more detailes of the fashion and what i mean by details i'd like to see more illustrations for Shadowrun fashion
hobgoblin
Dec 18 2005, 12:00 AM
snow fox, for some reason your last two posts makes me think about a comment made in a episode of Final Fantasy unlimited.
its about a handbag the girl have found, one with some very big theeth.
"scarily cute, isnt it"
just the idea of picking up a revolver on a whim makes me question reality...
Snow_Fox
Dec 18 2005, 03:22 AM
It wasn't such a whim. I was interested in getting a more powerful gun. I had the beretta and a .38 webley (damn expensive to shoot) and so was thinking of getting 9mm, but for style I prefere revolvers so I was looking over what was in the cabinet to get ideas. I recognized it was a beautiful gun at a really good price.
nick012000
Dec 18 2005, 01:47 PM
Compensating for something?
Snow_Fox
Dec 18 2005, 03:39 PM
Yeah, lack of power in the Beretta meant that at long range- 25+ yards- I could not be consistent. At that range you can't see the holes in the target so each shot is on it's own. When you can see the holes you can correct aim, like "Hmm I'm a little low and to the right."
The .357 loaded with 38 specials and a barrell almost 33% longer than the Beretta does have a longer range than the .380's so I can focus on aim and less on adjusting for the lesser bullets going off.
We're talking the difference in the range of light and heavy pistols in SR.
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