A daisy-eater?


in regards to original post, don't forget the Sioux Wildcats, Renraku Red Samurai, Tir Paladins... I guess the artist formerly known as Russia still has the Spetznaz...

Tiran. What do you call one from the UCAS? The CAS would fight hard for the American title internationally, IMO, and would likely get it as all the Canadians would fuss to be called such. Inside the UCAS you would perhaps refer to one's self as Canadian or American, but internationally I've thought that UCASan (u-CAUSE-n) or Unionist might work. Is there canon?

MVD for Russia (T:SH)

Ares Firewatch

Edited per CD2.0

UCASer. The ones from the lower 24 call themselves Americans.

MVD.

Firewatch is part of Knight Errant. Just nitpicking.

Seraphim.

Actually, a shadow comment in Target: Matrix was by a former SAS man named World War Terminus. WWT is a motherf-ing badass.

There used to be a Shadowrun Military Site. I assume somewhere someone still has something from it.

In the novel House of the Sun Dirk Montgommery does refer to his nationality as "UCASan".

Well, there is still confusion here. According to SoNA page 150, first there are more than just two groups of Paladins. There are even independent Paladin. It's a social title.

Then the Spirit Warriors/Meraerth ke'Tolo, nicknamed "Ghosts", the Special Force units of the Peace Force's military division, are 'paladins' because they all swore loyalty to the head of state, Surehand (basically, any oath makes a paladin). There are two groups inside those ghosts. The Black Banner/Bratach Falan (200 soldiers, 80% awakened) are 'standard' special forces with military missions. The White Banner/Bratach Gheal (<20 soldiers) are the High Prince bodyguards,wearing with armors and swords. And some of the White Banner, called "Black Daggers" are detached on special duties, assassinations and similar stuff. But all of those are paladins and members of the Peace Force.

*look at the map* And which naval bases did Canada bring ?

The topic of the US Navy split is a bit blurred. According to the map, the CAS get Norfolk but according to SoNA, they 'only' have two 50,000-tons air carriers based in Charleston and Mobile (back in NAGNA in 2054, there was only one carrier, the Atlanta). Has the secession involved the demilitarization of Norfolk ? Still according to SoNA, the CAS Navy is supposed to be mostly a "brown-water navy" with two air carriers and the strongest submarine force in the world... Maybe that just mean the CAS Navy has the big guns to do more but limits his policy to the control of brown-water (ie the Gulf of Mexico/Aztlan). While I'm here the OB for the rest of the CAs Armed Forces (SoNA page 67) gives 6 active Army divisions, 2 Marine expeditionary forces and 16 air combat squadrons, making the largest force in North America (and the Texas National Guard must be a nice and quet force too).


Concerning corporate troops, Corporate Shadowfiles was saying Aztechnology had no military forces, borrowing even its Desert War team to the Aztlan government. In Corporate Download, the Aztechnology Corporate Security numbers 140,000, in theory mostly for security, not military operations. But Year of the Comet mentions ACS troops fighting in Yucatan. For another number, CD says there are 400, a battalion of Jaguar Guards.

About Ares, YotC speaks of 2,500 Ares troops deployed in California, including a Signals Intelligence & Recon Battalion of 500 mens, plus two armor and two mechanized battalions. It is described as "very large for a corporate military presence" and made of Knight Errant "security personel" equipped with stuff from Ares Arms armories. According to the Shadowfiles, Ares Arms controls Ares military capacities, while YotC refers to the "Knight Errant Signals Intelligence and Recon Battalion" mentionned above. The Download limlits KE military operations available to customers to special operations, infiltrations, counter-insurgency and warfare instruction.

BTW I have seen a reference somewhere simply to the "Canadian-American" (makes sense when you think about it, no ?.

Sigh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have Shadows of North America. Hell, I've never even seen a copy of it. But I know what it says about the Tir. Or at least I can guess.

So, since I'm the guy who wrote that stuff originally, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit. I take my information from the original TT sourcebook, add a little common sense, and stir. Although it might be technically accurate to call the Ghosts "paladins", they are not Paladins in the originally intended meaning of the word, per the TT sourcebook. And, since it appears that whomever wrote this (I'm guessing it was Tzeentch) obviously borrowed a lot of their material from me, I have no problem calling it into question.

Sure, for text documents and official information, but really? Do you see some midwest hick saying, "I'm a Canadian-American?" Camerican, UCASer (you' - cause - err), UCASan, something short and bastardized.

Sure, I can see it for people of a 'younger' generation. I think the older folks who were around for it all will probalby stick to the old names, but as younger people come up and get indoctrinated with the 'textbook' names as they go through school they'll adopt them into common usage regardless of them being from the sprawl or some hick in the midwest.