Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Who's Ryan Mercury?
Dumpshock Forums > Discussion > Shadowrun
Pages: 1, 2, 3
emo samurai
I heard he's Nadja Daviar's lover and close friend. He's the leader of Acquisitions, Inc. and a drake. I've also heard he's a Mary Sue type, and I believe it, judging by these facts.
nick012000
It's Assets, Inc.
emo samurai
Edited. And who the hell is he, besides what I just said? I can't take him seriously, because I keep thinking of Freddie Mercury and Cromartie high school.
hyzmarca
He's someone that dumpshockers love to hate, partially because he has a Ally spirit shaped like a motorcycle.
Jrayjoker
QUOTE (emo samurai)
I heard he's Nadja Daviar's lover and close friend. He's the leader of Acquisitions, Inc. and a drake. I've also heard he's a Mary Sue type, and I believe it, judging by these facts.

Mary Sue type? Never heard that particular saying before.

He was the Big D's pet
[ Spoiler ]
.
emo samurai
A Mary Sue is someone who lives out the author's or maybe even the consumer's fantasies.
Jrayjoker
Thanks, where is that from?
Ancient History
It's a fairly common occurence with bad authors - Steven King is notorious for it, for example.

I honestly can't say whether Ryan Mercury qualifies as a Mary Sue, because I haven't gotten that vibe from Jak Koke's other writing.

Now, Talon on the other hand...
Kagetenshi
QUOTE (hyzmarca)
He's someone that dumpshockers love to hate, partially because he has a Ally spirit shaped like a motorcycle.

As AH alluded to, you've got the wrong guy. Right charge, wrong crime.

~J
emo samurai
What's "~]"?
Kagetenshi
I'm not sure about tilde-close-bracket, but "~J" is the shortened form of my signature—"~Jonathan R. Woodworth" (sometimes sans tilde, particularly on legal documents and copyright notices).

~J
emo samurai
Oh... that's a J. Sorry.
Deamon_Knight
Doesn't he have the late big D's freespirit soul trapped in his cyberzombie body? Or is that someone else?
Kagetenshi
That was Billy Burnout.

He had altogether too much to do with that, though.

~J
Jrayjoker
Oh, and he's a sneaky snake too. Silent way adept, that is.
Ancient History
It's not that Ryan Mercury was a really, really powerful adept...it's that he was raised and personally trained by Dunkelzahn, was banging the hot-elf-chick who happened to be VP of the UCAS and head of the Draco Foundation, and subsequently discovered he was actually a physical magician and a drake while saving the world.

If a player had made the same character, they'd be declared a munchkin, and so Ryan Mercury is a munchkin. But a Mary Sue? Eh. Jury's still out.
Jrayjoker
What does Adam have to do with anything?


HA! I kill me!
hyzmarca
It isn't that Ryan Mercury was banging the VP of the UCAS it is that he forcibly subjected us poor readers to her dark brown nipples.
Jrayjoker
Thanks, I was blocking sooooo much, and you all dredged it back up!

In case you haven't guessed emo, Ryan is a bit of a twink, and his mother dresses him funny. nyahnyah.gif
Oracle
Why do I have the image of Nadia Daviars legs in my mind? wink.gif
Kagetenshi
Mmm… luscious gams…

~J
Oracle
That's still a good one. rotfl.gif
RunnerPaul
Because she has nice gams?
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (emo samurai)
Edited. And who the hell is he, besides what I just said? I can't take him seriously, because I keep thinking of Freddie Mercury and Cromartie high school.


QUOTE (emo samurai)
He's the leader of Acquisitions, Inc


uhh... you forgot to actually edit it . Clcik on the 'edit' button on your first actual post to edit. Not being snarky, just letting you know in case you didn't.

If oyu really want to know more about the SR setting, I'd suggest picking up a few of the old novels from used book stores or Amazon. If oyu're interested in the connected history to Earthdawn (the 4th world, in relation to the 6th world) try the Dragon Heart Trilogy (the one w/ Mercury), Black Madonna, and Worlds Without End.

If you want some more info from Dunk's will, try Tails you Lose, and The Forever Drug

If you want some more class, try anything by nigel Findley, like 2XS, and House of the Sun.

If oyu're more interested in the Matrix, Psychotrope and Technobabel were both pretty good as I recall.
fourstring_samurai
nigel findley was the man. the way house of the sun ended...good god that guy could write (IMHO).


so, does anyone like anything about the munchkin's fantasy that mercury is?


also, are the details of the silent way in any sourcebooks? (sr3, i mean)
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (fourstring_samurai)

also, are the details of the silent way in any sourcebooks? (sr3, i mean)

try SOTA 64 , and Magic in The Shadows

Neko is awesome wink.gif
Oracle
I thought Mercury was following some special path, which he learned from Dunkelzahn, that is not available to player characters....
fistandantilus4.0
Path of the Power-Trip PC?
PiXeL01
Thought I thought Neko wasnt an adept at all, from what I understood from Never Trust an Elf.

...

Ryan Mercury (Never read anything with him, gladly I guess) reminds me of why I cant read anymore Drizzt Do'Urden books .... That guy is just too good at his thing.
fistandantilus4.0
the last few Drizzt books were lacking anyways, so you didn't miss much.

I never got to the 2nd and 3rd 'secrets of power' books, so I didin't een know that Neko was in them embarrassed.gif silly me. I was commenting on the write up on SOTA 64 and how he was portayed off of that in our games.
Anythingforenoughnuyen
The Path of the Power-Tripping PC?

Here I would have to say, if a player had a character like that, it would not be a cut and dried case of twink-o-licious power tripping, rather, the issue would be decided on the circumstances, the context and intent.

If a player just out of the blue said-I want to make a character like R. "Q" M., when everyone else was playing normal Shadowrun characters, then it would not make since in the context of the game, and the player probably just wants to hijack the game for his own personal power trip.

But if the situation were different, if say, the player's last character had mastered all of the Elven Magic Pathways, and s/he knew that her next character was going to be a Great Dragon that awakens late and is trying to play catch up with the other established Great Wyrms in the Sixth World-then a character like Quicksilver would make since as a fun transition character to help the player get ready for his next big serious character.

So, as I am sure you can all see, it realy is just a matter of context and intent.
fistandantilus4.0
well for one, Dunk was not trying to catch up, he was one of the first few dragons to awaken, jsut a few months after Ryumyo.

Two, it was a joke (mostly)
Anythingforenoughnuyen
If my post was misread, I am sorry. It was meant as a joke-I do not think that a character who has mastered all of the Elven Pathways of Magic is a suitable PC, nor do I think that a just awakened Great Dragon is a suitable PC, but I do think that a character like Quicksilver falls in the middle of that pack.

And I agree with your post, if there was a path that allowed a player to follow in Quicksilvers footsteps, then it would be best called the Path of Power-Tripping.
fistandantilus4.0
biggrin.gif sorry, wasn't meaning to be testy. no prob
Critias
QUOTE (PiXeL01)
Thought I thought Neko wasnt an adept at all, from what I understood from Never Trust an Elf.

Different Neko. The one from the novels (he was in 3 of the first 4, IIRC, 2/3 of the initial trilogy, plus being a major player in NTAE) is mundane, though he's very easily the "stereotypical physad type guy," regardless (sneaking, throwing knives, a suppressed submachine gun, athletics, etc). To me, the fact he was that badass as a mundane (and a largely uncybered one, IIRC), makes him even cooler.

"Neko" from Sota '64, as an Adept of the Silent Path/Invisible Way (as far as I'm concerned, two names for the same ideal), shouldn't really surprise anyone. I mean, Neko is Japanese for "cat," I believe -- so the fact that a ton of sneaky guys, in the still-occasionally-Jap-o-centric Shadowrun future, shouldn't come as any sort of shock.

In much the same vein, I largely doubt Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside is the only "Ghost" any more, there are probably two dozen "Blackjack" street names strutting around, etc, etc. That's one of the (many) downsides to the GI Joe sounding street names; all the cool ones are taken, and have been for about 20 years (in game).
MYST1C
QUOTE (fourstring_samurai)
nigel findley was the man. the way house of the sun ended...good god that guy could write (IMHO).

I thought the end part of "House of the Sun" wasn't even written by Findley because he died before the book was finished (though no co-author has ever been named)?
fistandantilus4.0
Thanks for clearing that up Critias. i agree on the names it can be a bit of a pain. Our group has gotten a bit of a kick seeing character names we've had pop up in source books though.

We have tried getting away from the "GI Joe" names a bit though , and go towards something you wouldn't feel quite as akward saying in a normal conversation. Not that "50 cent" really flows though,wink.gif but we're going for more street name, less super hero. It says something to me that the (IMO) coolest 'runner' I've seen in any of the books was just called by his regular name.
mfb
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
It says something to me that the (IMO) coolest 'runner' I've seen in any of the books was just called by his regular name.

fastjack is his real name? whoah! where'd you find that out?
fistandantilus4.0
Dirk hoser! nyahnyah.gif

besides that, I don't recall any appearances by Jack in any of the books I've read.

Although the short that AH did with him was awesome
mfb
he was in Into the Shadows.
fistandantilus4.0
ah, well , see, never read that one. Hafta go pick up up now at my friendly local used book store.
Mr.Platinum
Ah another Ryan mercury thread.
God some needs to write up a short story on how he dies, cause the fans hate him.
Critias
I am inspired !!

And, yeah, Fistandantilus. I keep telling myself that the SOTA:64 guy isn't good old Neko from the books (and, the street name being as common as it no-doubt is, it's easy to believe). It'd really suck if it was him, and they turned him into an Adept, etc, etc. It's weird, but it would kind of take away from the character, for him to get that sort of thing from powers instead of just being that badass innately.
fistandantilus4.0
yeah, that makes sense. I'll have to pick up that book too I guess. We've been putting out more mundane, cybered down characters lately too. It's great ot be able to play them and have them survive, and even better to watch them thrive, beuase you know that it's mostly coming from smarts, not dice and tweeking rules.
Critias
In SR3, since there's no skill cap, they can keep improving (albeit very slowly), to the point they've just got ridiculous dice to throw, etc, etc. And without foci or cyberware or decks or whatever to eat up all their cash, once they've got a few nice toys to get jobs done, every penny they earn can go into Lifestyles.

Bling bling!
nezumi
QUOTE (Mr.Platinum)
God some needs to write up a short story on how he dies, cause the fans hate him.

Oh, good idea!! Have him die in a car bomb or from eating too many fatty foods.
emo samurai
What's wrong with Nadja Daviar's brown nipples?
mintcar
That some tan brown, omnipotent and irritating porn-star hunk is the one touching them when you read about them?
nick012000
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
Dirk hoser! nyahnyah.gif

besides that, I don't recall any appearances by Jack in any of the books I've read.

Although the short that AH did with him was awesome

Fastjack appeared in Night's Pawn, IIRC, when he gets hired by the retired street sam to provide Matrix overwatch while said street sam breaks into the Renraku Arcology (long before Deus did his funky stuff), in order to talk to Samantha Villiers at a social function.
fourstring_samurai
QUOTE
(M¥$T1C)
QUOTE (fourstring_samurai)
nigel findley was the man. the way house of the sun ended...good god that guy could write (IMHO).


I thought the end part of "House of the Sun" wasn't even written by Findley because he died before the book was finished (though no co-author has ever been named)?


he died in the final stages of proof reading. there's a point near the end of the book, which i think was intentional left uncorrected, where the ubiquitous frag is swapped for "fuck". i think that was where findley was when he passed.


QUOTE
(fistandantilus3.0)
the last few Drizzt books were lacking anyways, so you didn't miss much.


true, but the last sellswords book (about artemis entreri and jarlaxle) was freakin' great. very refreshing in many ways, i must say.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Dumpshock Forums © 2001-2012