Dermal sheathing appears to replace the epidermis. It seems to be bonded to the dermis, hence the name. Either way, people with dermal sheathing don't have nipples, so it isn't too much to assume that they don't shed epidemial cells.

Indeed. However, the probability of them spending this money and time will increase substantially in relation to the seriousness of the crime committed. Kill a random ganger? Don't get picked up at the scene. Kill the son of a senator? I hope you were in your hazmat suit, because they're going to pull out the stops.

Anybody have the text of the Corporate Interaction Act of 2038 or does such a document not exist in the real world?

It would go a long way toward understanding how well indemnified runners are in these circumstances.

Any such document would only tell how things are supposed to be, when people obey all the rules and exercise all there rights.

Both things that will not be happening when dealing with shadow runners.

Edward

Actually, neither the FBI nor Interpol is the best example of that, especially since runner crimes are typically outside their jurisdiction.

For Interpol: ”Because of the politically neutral role Interpol must play, its Constitution forbids any involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries, or any political, military, religious, or racial crimes. Its work centers primarily on public safety and terrorism, organized crime, illicit drug production and drug trafficking, weapons smuggling, trafficking in human beings, money laundering, child pornography, financial and high-tech crime, and corruption.”

It’s not their job to find out who killed John Q Public, unless that killing is part of international criminal operations and it occurred in their member countries. Even then, their job is to share information with the related police agencies, with those agencies deciding how much time and effort they will spend on individual cases.

For the FBI, their job is to investigate “crimes against the United States". While there’s a lot of things that come under that broad heading (http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title18/parti_.html), the death of John Q Public is not typically on that list.

And both organizations have been misused in their history. In the 1990’s it was discovered some members of the FBI’s crime lab were falsely claiming fingerprints matched those of the suspect, when the opposite was true.

And the more print matches, the better the FBI’s record looked. Now apply that to the world of Shadowrun. These agencies and their members, like all police agencies or corporations will act in their own interest.

Again, in the world of Shadowrun this means they need to keep crime statistics down. Less crimes mean they must be doing their job better, so if members of a police corporations can avoid reporting a crime, many won’t.

Higher conviction rates also mean the police corporation looks good. Tactics used by Lone Star and others can be very much like those used by American police in the 1920’s and 1930’s. And your rights really depend on how important you are. In some cases, merely being metahuman or SINless could get you convicted for a crime you didn’t commit. And when you’re dealing with dirty cops in the SR world, don’t expect to be around to testify in your own behalf.

Of course, if dirty cops are caught it looks really bad for their organization. But even today, it’s so often an us-versus-them situation many clean cops will be very reluctant to testify against dirty cops. And I doubt dirty cops of the Shadowrun world would be nicer than the ones who trued to deal with Frank Serpico’s testimony.

True. But corps will typically only share information if it helps them more than it hurts them.

and that make the grade as

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But please, continue your crusade to appear correct by showing how much better you know what applies in someone else's game.

I feal the need to point out that your both correct.

Interpol and the FBI may not usually be concerned but in a few cases they are, specifically the case of the game eidolon is currently running.

Always remember that just because your right it doesn’t mean that somebody with a different opinion is not also right.

A les aggressive way to say that would be. “I understand that some games do include those types of crimes and some GMs may want to expand the operational perimeters of those organisations but most do not. Your previous post may have given the idea that there normal operations would intersect with normal shadow runner operations. It was my intent to sow that this is not the case, although as you have shown there clearly are exceptions."

Edward

Not the trifecta?

Heck if I saw headlines about "topless cops" I would be poring over news to see if there were live feeds.

So the Megacorporations are members of Interpol in your version of Shadowrun, even though they aren't countries?

Mel Gibson does have nice abs.

It would make sense on some levels.

Interpol wants it because that means they get some cooperation from corporations.

The corporations want it because then they have the ability to use Interpol when they want to (and deem the leaking of information worth it).

There association wouldn’t be the closest but it could be there

Edward

So make an intercorp force, which deal with corp law. Lone star would not apply since they are a competing corp themselves. Intercorp would have members from different corps and be goverened by an independant body. (maybe corp council?)

There are times when intercorp forces would come in handy. IE some scam artist is running the same scam in a few different corps. Someone is assassinating a certain role in several companies to make themselves seem more attractive. It is not always the case where companies will collaborate, but if there was an independant body that could correlate crime 1 at corp A and crime 2 at corp B etc etc etc, they could put a big picture together rather than each of the companies just writing off a crime against each of them. I cannot see corps trusting the star, since they have no control over them, but if there was a joint traskforce or something, it would be interesting to see. (each of the parties would be carefully guarding the information that they bring to the tables, but they could get a great deal done.) There are also AAA's and small companies that try and make powerplays into the megacorp playing field.

One could say the same thing about the UN, but... eh.

I agree. Operation: Reciprocity went off pretty well given its ad hoc status. I'm sure a team of commandos wouldn't be too hard to put together on relatively short notice. I always thought that was what the physical teams were that were referred to in System Failure when the Court killed Art.

I still use space cows, but it amounts to the same thing.

I'm still a proponent of making Rainbow Six kill the PCs while saying "Tango down!"

"Tango down!" is Latin for "Pwn3d lol lol lol f@44ot lol lol lol pwn3d".

Yeah. Say, you know, the players aren't telling you things like "I reroute the frobotzulator to discharge the capacitor into the electrical buffertron" and stuff when they are using Hardware to open a Maglock, right? Or if they are, you still roll based on their Hardware + Logic skill. The "not leaving forensic evidence" thing should be similar -- a Knowledge skill, like police procedures or, well, forensics. Let them spend some time doing an extended test (interval of a minute, 10 minutes, hey even 30 min), the results of which modify the ability of investigators to find something.

Sure, they can take lots of time to do this, but every extra minute they spend at the scene is a minute that something else can go wrong for them, like a passerby noticing somthing or a security guard on patrol showing up, or whatever. Have them read the Ray Bradbury short story "The Fruit at the Bottom of the Bowl", too.

Not a bad idea. Thanks for the suggestion. Of course, this campaign's "norm" has pretty well be carved into granite, but in the future I might just implement something like that.