How much would a MechaShiva rig cost? You know, like, 8 arms springing from 2 shoulder sockets? And would you need to cyber up pretty much everything else just to accomodate the insane extra weight? And what bonuses would you get from a MechaShiva rig?

I think you forgot to take your meds this morning.

uhm, emo, could you post these new stuff in the dedicated threads we have for you? Please?

I think the closest thing in shadowrun rules regarding extra cyber-limbs were the gun arm dealys you could get for your cybertorso in the last edition, man and machine....Might take a gander at that.

Unless you want to houserule a lot, SR does not handle transhumanism well. The simplest opation is to have the extra limbs as drones that happen to be attached to you, rather than 'cyber limbs'.

That's okay. Sanity is boring.

It's like we want to know where to look if we're bored, or drunk, or both.

I don't want to read something like that if I'm sober or busy .

On topic: the same thing came up in the building-a-drone-from-cyberware-thread (aka the arthritic drone thread)

arthritic drones

theres a couple problems with multi-arms like that. first of all, your going to put a LOT of stress on your shoulder. that means its not just the 'arm' thats cyber, your going to need a cyber-torso as well. then theres the question of learing to use all those arms. if splitting your dice pool between two hands is bad, imagine an 8-way split.

the only advantages to having that many arms, will be in close combat (wrestling holds) and possibly a small recoil reduction for heavy weapons (1 or 2 points at most).

Overall, the idea while creative and cool, is impractical and would not sell well. if it wont sell, the corps wont make it. i doubt anyone would ever see it outside R&D.

a similar idea that may work, would be to have special atachmets to the shoulders of the cyber-torso. these add a simple striker limb, giving one dice to melee combat per pair. have it cost capacity from the torso, give it a legality of F, and now you need customized armor, or conceal them under a trenchcoat.

As an aside, remember that Shiva also wore a skirt of human arms around her waist. Given the SR4 rules that you get a bonus to your number of damage boxes per limb, that might explain how Shiva wanders through the middle of raging battles without armor (or even a layer of glistening oil).

Shiva's a dude... But yeah, I realize this is impractical. I actually made this thread knowing it was impractical. I just wanted to type "MechaShiva."

If I have learned nothing from Spiderman comics it is that genetech is the best and most efficient way to get extra arms.

Or to be more exact, the impracticality of it.

You do realize how impractical the idea is, don't you?

Nah... that was just my evil twin, who knows my forum password, typing it.

The best way to whack on people with multiple limbs at once is to hack your sprites into the medusa down the hall.

MechaShiva, SchmechaShiva.

Just wanted to say that.

It might not be practicle rules-wise or setting-wise, but for transhumanist NPCs at least, it's a fun idea. In fact, I've used it before and I'll use it again. (I'm on a transhumanist SR kick.)

Hmmm... yes...

Bah, they have these in Shadows of Asia. SURGE: Extra Limb twice and then get a couple of cyberarms. Presto: Mechashiva.

"And how does it feel to be...A LIAR?! A liar, with pants constantly on fire?!"

Just had to contribute when I saw the thread title

Go team venture!

hmm mechashiva rig with all extra arms having pilot 6, and targeting blades 6 and whatever other autosofts fit

I get friends in melee bonuses by myself

There was something in Shadowtech or Cybertechnology about penalties for adding extra limbs if you didn't do so in pairs, it screwed up your balance somehow. My books are home and I'm at the office, I'll check when I'm home and get a chance.

I think it was Cybertechnology that had the extra limb options; it's been a while since SR3 and I were on speaking terms so my memory will be fuzzy.

Speaking of fuzzy, the cybertails were pretty neat as they gave a pretty beefy bonus to balance checks (which included resistance to knockdowns).

There is only one real problem with a mechaShiva rig, it may make the real Shiva angry. The real Shiva is, of course, in the guise of an uncybered mundane guy with a teeshirt, chinos, unsually think wrists, and a mullet.

Who said I didn't intend it to be this way? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!

You take the matter of MechaShiva way too seriously.

No, just ignorance.

Are there any rules for installing large pieces of metal in your body that don't actually do anything? I know that cyberlimbs have space for random equipment, but is there a reason you couldn't actually install a drone into your own body? It seems like the only essence cost would be a VCR. Then you have a custom built drone installed around your ribs (or maybe just worn like a jacket). You give it a command to always attack what you're attacking and leave it be (or perhaps the VCR isn't even required, let the rigger reprogram it and you wear it). Then you have eight arms working independently for little essence loss, running on its own initiative.

Just make sure you never hit yourself.

No, I do enough of this just being myself. It's less trouble that way.

But yeah, I wish that this board would put people on probation for trolling as stringently as they did on Something Awful.

That would, of course, leave us with no one to talk to, but sometimes, that looks like a good idea.