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John Campbell
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
Fangirl: yay Dark Dungeons! That was the one that got me in to D&D! I love those little pamphlets!

Hell yeah! Without Dark Dungeons, I would have thought that D&D was just a game! But then Jack Chick told me that it would teach me to cast real spells! If it weren't for Jack Chick, I wouldn't be an nigh-omnipotent archmage today! Thanks, Jack Chick!
hyzmarca
Jack Chick taught me that the Pope is really the Antichrist so now I incorporate Catholic dogma into my everyday life. Hail Lucifer!
Kyoto Kid
I refer everyone to the Rollplaying Defended Gender Examined thread.

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in...

...yeah

...yeah

oho yeah hayaeah...


(cue the vibraphone... du du di du dah....[big time drugged out wail on the guitar])

Gods I love being old school...

[Will Smith] "You blew up the building, why?"

[Gene Hackman] "Because you made a phone call."
SL James
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Apr 13 2006, 02:26 AM)
But if we ever try to play racquet ball together... oh my GOD! Lawyers on the frickin' phone!  sarcastic.gif

Hey! Lawyers aren't that bad, well I sure hope I'm not gonna be considered scum. nyahnyah.gif

QUOTE (Robocop)

You're scum. Your client is scum.
PBTHHHHT
Awww, Dumpshock love. love.gif
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (nezumi)
WR - CNN has been doing a bunch of articles on how violence in women is going up. Maybe your day is coming soon!!

Yes. Perhaps my planned ultra-realistic martial arts RPG, "Savage Beatdown: The RPG" can do for the game-susceptible population what "Blue Rose" tried to do to the romantic fantasy susceptible population.

rotfl.gif
SL James
Dude... Why?
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (SL James)
Dude... Why?

Well, this is something that I've been thinking about lately. I've recently found out through personal experience that when you leave the US and go to places where "traditional" gender roles still largely prevail you really do see things like women going about laundry and cooking and cleaning while feeling like it's their duty, women not having any idea that they're capable of physically fighting, and being too shy to take up any sort of vigorous exercise.

I've mulled over this for a while and I think that I've decided that the sooner we can get more women to be aggro and combative the better. I realized that I don't much care for pre-feminism women.

Personally, I reject the academic and abstract excesses of academic feminism as being arbitrary and inapplicable to the world outside of an academic setting. I think that real gender equality can only arise not from highly abstract complaining and alienating lobbying, but rather from 1.) economic empowerment, and 2.) creating a more aggressive and assertive mental state, which in turn can be built through increased interest in real (as in, full contact boxing rather than McFlippy TKD) combative sports.
SL James
Or you can pump them up with enough steroids to eventually form testicles.

But my question was more to the point of why did you have to bring up Blue Rose? smile.gif
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (SL James)
Or you can pump them up with enough steroids to eventually form testicles.

But my question was more to the point of why did you have to bring up Blue Rose? smile.gif

Because Nisarg/RPGPundit has given me a major hard on for Blue Rose with its magic deer on this weblog, www.xanga.com/rpgpundit.

While the initial premise with the magic deer and socialist state is pretty funny in and of itself I've gotten to thinking that a really kickass campaign would actually be a strategy/military medieval orientated one where the PCs are this team of patriarchal commandoes from the evil patriarchal kingdom and they have this suicide mission where they're supposed to go and assassinate the magic deer.

The tone of such a campaign could be a kind of cruel humor type campaign. Like, you could make fun of the foundations of romantic fantasy by having the main kingdom be economically dysfunctional because they go and penalize anyone who accumulates too much wealth, and things like that. (Politically I'm left of center but I recognize a kickass political joke when I see one.) The society could be paralyzed by political correctness and populated by effeminite citizens. Think some of the gags from "Demolition Man".

Basically, I'm thinking a hard tactical game combined with derisive humor and over-the-top violence. I think that if it were GMed with excellent narration by someone with a good grasp of political science and economics it would be the milk-snorting campaign of the century.
SL James
Oh, that douchebag. Heh.
Kremlin KOA
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
Awww, Dumpshock love. love.gif

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass eek.gif
Shrike30
You know, there are times I'm glad we don't have quite the smiley selection of other boards. The eek.gif is expressive enough...
Kyoto Kid
...ohmygod how did this get dredged up again? twirl.gif
Arethusa
QUOTE (Shrike30)
You know, there are times I'm glad we don't have quite the smiley selection of other boards. The eek.gif is expressive enough...

What have you done.
Shrike30
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Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...ohmygod how did this get dredged up again? twirl.gif

Because it has to do with breasts, and breasts are key.
Morgannah
Bewbs are gross.
Critias
QUOTE (Kyoto Kid)
...ohmygod how did this get dredged up again? twirl.gif

The same way four or five other retarded emo samurai threads have gotten dredged up today -- Shrike30.
Fortune
QUOTE (Morgannah)
Bewbs are gross.

Mine are pretty nice, thank you very much! nyahnyah.gif

And I'm sure yours ain't terrible either. wink.gif biggrin.gif

Oh, and I have definitely smoked enough pot in my time to be called a 'dude'. cool.gif
mfb
Fortune! holy shit, i thought you died.
toturi
QUOTE (mfb)
Fortune! holy shit, i thought you died.

Quick! Get a mage! He's a shedim! biggrin.gif

Fortune:

Welcome back, old man.
Fortune
Thanks. I missed you guys much more than some of you deserve. wink.gif
Backgammon
Fooooooooooortuuuuuuuuune!!!
Domino
QUOTE (Shrike30)
You know, there are times I'm glad we don't have quite the smiley selection of other boards. The eek.gif is expressive enough...

Confused Necro FTW.
Shrike30
Apparently I managed to necro Fortune in the process, so I don't think anyone is going to complain nyahnyah.gif

Fortune, where have you been?
Domino
QUOTE (Shrike30)
Apparently I managed to necro Fortune in the process, so I don't think anyone is going to complain nyahnyah.gif

Fortune, where have you been?

Why did you have to necro Fortune? This place was so much better when he was MIA. I was just about to get his stuff.
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Domino)
Why did you have to necrophiliacize Fortune?

There, fixed... ewwwww. eek.gif
Domino
Sounds like a horrible Polish horror film.
Fortune
Hmmm ...

NecroFortuna ...

That would be an interesting character name. cool.gif

... or a decent canned seafood label. eek.gif

As to where I've been ... a number of life's little surprizes, in combination with a short foray into the (original) Deadlands, and my basically just being a slack bastard (I didn't want to face the daunting proposition of reading all those missed posts eek.gif ) have contributed to my absence. But, rest assured, all ye that were troubled. My temporary relapse has brought about a renewed interest in the Sixth World. wink.gif grinbig.gif
Domino
Great, who exactly broke the Seventh Seal?
Hocus Pocus
women and shadowrun? that's an oxymoron! any campagin game, all it is is dorky guys who've never so much as touched a boobie in their lives with bad hygine. lol the one time a girl tried to join our campagin she lasted less than a month, not anything on our parts, but I'm sure she realised that "hey what the heck am i doin with a buncha losers?" HA the guy i was played with turn to me when she first showed up to play and whipsered "there are actually girls that play this game" had me tearing up, his delivery i do not do justice. classic......*sigh* memories like the corner of my mind...


yet we long for thier embrace, their warmth, their touch....careful what you wish for...you just might get it
Dranem
Ok, although I was hoping this thread had died a long time ago, I just had to respond to Hocus Pocus' comment....

My wife and I are both long time Shadowrun gamers. Her brother got us hooked on the game 8 or so years ago... at the height of our gaming group (before a few moved out of town, the joy of military families), we had 2 girls in our campaign, siblings to gamers in the group. After all, if you can't beat your brother and his nerdy friends, then join in and see what its' all about... I can imagine a lot of other female gamers got into it much the same way.. either that or their significant others wore down their resistances... wink.gif
(there's even a couple I've come across where they were more interested in the game than their bf's after getting introduced to a group.... now that is funny! )

I find it refreshing actually. To have a female play a female character makes them so much more real - and generally less slutty - than when a guy plays a female character.

That you guys can't find a decent female gamer is your own loss really.. try not to look soo desperately single at the next con or meet... wink.gif
Fortune
Try to take most of what Hocus writes in the spirit it is normally intended ... tongue-in-cheek. wink.gif
lorechaser
Corrupt your women!

My gaming groups currently have 7 women scattered among them. All but one were brought in to the fold by their husbands or dads (two of those are mine). But now that they're in, they're staying in - heck, my daughter keeps kvitching at me because I've skipped out on our every other week WoD game, and when I skip, she doesn't get to go....
Wounded Ronin
Deep down inside I can't really believe that any women actually play table top RPGs and like it. It's entirely the domain of malodorous rejected geeky guys. Sniffle.
emo samurai
I'm not malodorous. mad.gif

Who among us is malodorous?
Hocus Pocus
QUOTE (Fortune)
Try to take most of what Hocus writes in the spirit it is normally intended ... tongue-in-cheek. wink.gif




oh my stars and garters! haven't seen ya in ages man, how the h-e-double hockey sticks are ya? de land down under treatin' ya well i hope? dunno if ya heard stumpy got the site back up and runing. Truely your sexy manly presence is missed indeed wink.gif



an nah, the wife though campagin games were not what a grown man would do in his off time. Oh yeah she feigned interesting while we were going out and even attended a meeting or two. But as always after marriage KABLAMO!! illegal chop block, and adios ta shadowrun. Ah but i was a newly wed in love "oh anything for you my sweet apple dumplin'". Bleh, fight the power mis hombres! for if you do not a lifetime of servile servitude, a dystopian matriarchal existance a hollow, shadowy form of the once great man you were


Her lips were red, her looks were free,
Her locks were yellow as gold:
Her skin was as white as leprosy,
The Nightmare Life-in-Death was she,
Who thicks man's blood with cold.



rhyme of the ancient mariner (an exerp)- Samuel Taylor Coleridge (my favorite poem)
Fortune
QUOTE (Hocus Pocus)
oh my stars and garters! haven't seen ya in ages man, how the h-e-double hockey sticks are ya? de land down under treatin' ya well i hope? dunno if ya heard stumpy got the site back up and runing. Truely your sexy manly presence is missed indeed

I'm doing alright, thanks. I'm glad to see that you sound like you are still you're still doing well. I'll have to drop by sometime soon. smile.gif
Wounded Ronin
Heh, I love how at this time only 11% of poll respondants claim to be female. And I'll bet that half of that 11% are actually guys who WISH they were women, or something like that.

I guess that means that if I ever want to reproduce I'll have to hide the fact that I play RPGs...
krayola red
Bah! Girls love it when I talk about my panther assault cannon.

...What?
Kyoto Kid
...somewhere, there's a comeback here, just haven't figured one out yet.

Maybe the dikote combat axe in the hands of a female troll Mossad operative which performs a circumcision on said PAC.

mazel tov...
Dog
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)
I guess that means that if I ever want to reproduce I'll have to hide the fact that I play RPGs...

Getting married actually expanded my group. I learned that my brother-in-law is a gamer too. Come to think of it, one reason my wife tolerates "nerd night" is probably 'cause she grew up with it.
PBTHHHHT
And she knows you're not out at the bars chatting with some floozy or getting in trouble. Probably not drunk (well not too drunk) or getting into fights (well RL fights... probably)
Dog
No, that's a different night...
lorechaser
I worry about you, Wounded Ronin.

Despite any evidence to the contrary, you seem deadset on the idea that no girls game, or date guys that game.

Did you watch Mazes and Monsters too many times growing up? Or after you were grown, depending? wink.gif

Girls game. It's a fact. Despite years of evidence to the contrary, and a widely held knowledge of the fact that they *don't* game, girls are everywhere now. It's only been in the past 5-10 years that it's really become the case, but nowadays finding Mrs. Right can definitely include a sampling of her favorite systems, and asking her if she's alliance or horde. I married a girl gamer, my GM's wife plays with us, my best friend is trying to set up a family game night with me, my wife, his fiancee, and our 4 gaming age kids (3 female, 1 male). My other friends all have wives who range from toleratant to participatory, and we know a few other women that play as well. All in in all, we're at about a 60/40 ratio of men to women.

Girl gamers may not be as rabid as the guys, which may be where the view comes from.

Most of the girl gamers i know are willing to try new systems, and have fun, but don't know 15 different games, which they will rank in order of ease of use, art style, and power level.

The guys in my group have 1-2 games a week, and play mmorpgs for a couple hours a night. The majority of the women play 1-2 games a month, and maybe 5 hours of computer games a week.

Course, my wife tells me she can't talk to me because she's about to go camp a spawn, and hangs up the phone. So I'm happy.
eidolon
Moved to General Gaming since it has lost any meaningful connection to Shadowrun.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (lorechaser)
I worry about you, Wounded Ronin.

Despite any evidence to the contrary, you seem deadset on the idea that no girls game, or date guys that game.

Did you watch Mazes and Monsters too many times growing up? Or after you were grown, depending? wink.gif

Girls game. It's a fact. Despite years of evidence to the contrary, and a widely held knowledge of the fact that they *don't* game, girls are everywhere now. It's only been in the past 5-10 years that it's really become the case, but nowadays finding Mrs. Right can definitely include a sampling of her favorite systems, and asking her if she's alliance or horde. I married a girl gamer, my GM's wife plays with us, my best friend is trying to set up a family game night with me, my wife, his fiancee, and our 4 gaming age kids (3 female, 1 male). My other friends all have wives who range from toleratant to participatory, and we know a few other women that play as well. All in in all, we're at about a 60/40 ratio of men to women.

Girl gamers may not be as rabid as the guys, which may be where the view comes from.

Most of the girl gamers i know are willing to try new systems, and have fun, but don't know 15 different games, which they will rank in order of ease of use, art style, and power level.

The guys in my group have 1-2 games a week, and play mmorpgs for a couple hours a night. The majority of the women play 1-2 games a month, and maybe 5 hours of computer games a week.

Course, my wife tells me she can't talk to me because she's about to go camp a spawn, and hangs up the phone. So I'm happy.

Heh, I watched Mazes and Monsters a few times. Later I found it on sale at K Mart or somewhere and I mailed it as a joke to an owner of a FLGS.

I guess I've just been unlucky in terms of not encountering female gamers if what you're saying is correct. I guess I'll just have to hope to be more lucky in the future. Thing is, it's hard enough as it is to find people to game with in the first place...that in and of itself is something I have generally had difficulty doing, especially now that I'm in the FSM where nobody games.
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