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ludomastro
I was flipping through my forth edition last night and my four-year-old twins jumped in my lap to "read" with me. At that time I was looking over some of the sample characters and I found the responses interesting:

Bounty Hunter: Monster with knife

Combat Mage: Monster with boo-boo (pointing at the magic)

Covert Ops Specialist: "I don't know what that is."

Drone Rigger: Monster

Enforcer: Monster

Face: "That's a mommy!"

Gunslinger Adept: "That's a mommy!"

Hacker: Monster

Occult Investigator: "That's you, Daddy!" (I look nothing like this guy.)

Radical Eco-Shamman: "That's a mommy!"

Smuggler: "That's a mommy!"

Sprawl Ganger: "That's a baseball Monster with a bat! Look, Daddy, that will give you a boo-boo." (pointing at the spikes on the bat)

Street Samurai: Monster

Street Shaman: Scary Monster

Technomancer: "That's a mommy!"

Weapons Specialist: "That's a mommy!"

Just thought that you would all get a kick out of that.
Protagonist
QUOTE
That's a mommy!


rotfl.gif
FanGirl
I made my TM by taking the sample TM and making some very small changes. I'm a mommy and I didn't even know it!
ludomastro
QUOTE (FanGirl)

I'm a mommy and I didn't even know it!


My wife is a stay-at-home-mom (and she loves it) and most of the women in the neighborhood are too, so I guess that female = mom to my boys.
hyzmarca
Finally, someone else thinks single moms who run the shadows to suport their kids make good characters, too.
PBTHHHHT
but for optimum appeal to the target audience and considering the demographics of the select audience members it's more preferable to have hot young ladies with killer skills either in magic, combat, or at computers. The appeal degrades when they have a kid because it means that the female is... ok, I'll quit with the joke now since some of y'all probably think I was serious. nyahnyah.gif
hyzmarca
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
but for optimum appeal to the target audience and considering the demographics of the select audience members it's more preferable to have hot young ladies with killer skills either in magic, combat, or at computers. The appeal degrades when they have a kid because it means that the female is...


Experienced? Experience is good. It means less fumbling and more fun.
James McMurray
Easy? that's good too.
Ancient History
QUOTE (VR2.0 p8)
>>>>>(The install routines ask for the student's family structure. Renraku didn't seem to have a branch in the logic for "in-vitro conceived offspring of lesbian mother living with urban tribe." Apparently this thing thinks I'm a widow.)<<<<<
--Mom On The Run (21:05:37/7-10-55)
hobgoblin
ah, that part of VR2.0 is just incredibly fun to read wobble.gif
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (Ancient History)
QUOTE (VR2.0 p8)
>>>>>(The install routines ask for the student's family structure. Renraku didn't seem to have a branch in the logic for "in-vitro conceived offspring of lesbian mother living with urban tribe." Apparently this thing thinks I'm a widow.)<<<<<
--Mom On The Run (21:05:37/7-10-55)

Thank you AH, I was just thinking that. It always suprises me how many people remember Mom on the Run. I'm actually using her in a game right now, as part of a group setting up a new Shadowland node. People took one look at the handle and went "hey!" It'll be fun too, because I'm including her kid, who is now in her teens. Hope I got the appx time line right.
Aku
given the time stamp on what AH posted, and assuming a relative newborn when she made the post, and assuming you are running an SR4 game, then yes, a 15-17 year old is like the age of the child
Big D
The posters in the SBs are really what makes the SR universe work for me.

From the tidbits of information, to the flamewars, to the hints of SOMETHING BIG (usually involving Dunkelzahn or Harlequin) going on, to the quirks of folks like Laughing Bandit, those posts just bring the world to life.
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (Aku)
given the time stamp on what AH posted, and assuming a relative newborn when she made the post, and assuming you are running an SR4 game, then yes, a 15-17 year old is like the age of the child

I'm doing 4th edition. Figured she wouldn't have the deck until about 3, so I put her at just turning 18.
BookWyrm
Kids are so cute at that age. Then they become moody, obnoxious a-hole teenagers.
James McMurray
That happens way before 15-18. At least in my family. smile.gif
hobgoblin
its the net, it exposes them to how badly messed up the world is...

still, i think its better to expose them to it then shelter them from it. atleast the former will hopefully prepare them for living it in on their own, unless the idea makes them open up a vein or something.

hmm, given that dunks gone, whats the matrix-name for ghostwalker? or does he not care for the new tech?
Kanada Ten
Ghostwalker / Ghost in the Machine, Glitterfrost (Neither are confirmed) / Icewing, Doll-Maker
fistandantilus4.0
either he has some issues just settling on one name (darn picky dragons) or some freelancers jsut don't agree (or read each other's stuff, although I doubt that's it)
hobgoblin
cute. looking forward to reading the sourcebooks.
Squinky
I asked my 5 year old son the same questions, here are his answers:

Bounty Hunter: Werewolf with a thing

Combat Mage: An Alien

Covert ops: Girl

Drone Rigger: Soldier

Enforcer: Soldier with bones

Face: Girl

Gunslinger: Girl with a shotgun and guns

Hacker: A guy

Occult investigator: A guy with fire and a thing

Eco-shaman: Girl

Smuggler: Girl with a bike

Ganger: a dead guy

Street Samurai: Undead guy with a sword

Street Shaman: Zombie guy

Technomancer: Girl

Weapons Specialist: Girl with guns

so, there you go.
hobgoblin
hehe, maybe you should have him checked for early hormone development? looks like he cant get past the girl think on most of the female archtypes.

still, i like his interpetation of the street shaman and samurai, oh and the ganger :rofl:
emo samurai
"Dead guy?"
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (Squinky)
Street Samurai: Undead guy with a sword

your 5 year old acutally said "undead" eek.gif

The things they do pick up.. hehe
Fire Hawk
Dude, Fistandantilus, we must be getting old.

Kids, these days...
fistandantilus4.0
no kidding. Hell, I'm only 25. And I'm from California and wondering why no one says 'dude' anymore. 'Course, living in Utah might be part of it....

thanks for the empathy..dude
Squinky
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Apr 29 2006, 11:46 PM)
QUOTE (Squinky @ Apr 29 2006, 09:53 PM)
Street Samurai: Undead guy with a sword

your 5 year old acutally said "undead" eek.gif

The things they do pick up.. hehe

Yeah, My kids are going to be total geeks. I let him play World of Warcraft sometimes, and he plays an undead, heh.

My 9 year old son called the combat mage a night elf, so you can kinda see where they are coming from.

My favorite was the enforcer, "Soldier with bones" heh.
fistandantilus4.0
That's hilarious. Remember that old Jeff Foxworthy joke about the uncut grass and the motor hanging form a tree? "That's a house where a gun lives."

"That's a house where a roleplayer lives."
MK Ultra
Thats really funny grinbig.gif Iīm eager to hear more kidīs descriptions of archetypes biggrin.gif

I guess for 4 or 5yo boyīs itīs not unusual, to simply describe every female as 'female' (whether they use the descriptor Mommy or Girl or whatever), though, so I wouldnītbe bothered about the hormones wink.gif
Tiger Eyes
My 4 1/2 year old daughter (who thinks, by the way, that in any game, if you roll a 6, you automatically win... which makes most of our board games go very very quickly), said the following:

Troll Bounty Hunter: "It's tall, so it might be a horse"
Combat Mage: "A bad guy"
Covert Ops: "A good guy"
Drone Rigger: "A bad guy"
Enforcer: "A lion"
Face: "A girl"
Gunslinger Adept: "A princess"
Hacker: "A bad guy"
Occult Investigator: "A good girl" (the jewelry... really, it's the jewelry rotfl.gif )
Eco-shaman: "A girl. Look, mama, she has a friend!"
Smuggler: "A super-hero girl"
Sprawl Ganger: "A tall piggy that stands up"
Street Sam: "Super-hero boy"
Street Shaman: "A very naughty boy"
Technomancer: "It's a cute little girl!"
Weapon's specialist: "Oh, there's her mommy!"

And then... "Now can I have your dice, mama?"

(I said no, not after yesterday's incident with my dice, elmer's glue, and her 1 year old brother).
Grinder
QUOTE (Tiger Eyes)
And then... "Now can I have your dice, mama?"

(I said no, not after yesterday's incident with my dice, elmer's glue, and her 1 year old brother).

rotfl.gif

That's so Pratchett-like biggrin.gif
hobgoblin
QUOTE
Gunslinger Adept: "A princess"


hmm...
Tiger Eyes
QUOTE
QUOTE 
Gunslinger Adept: "A princess"



hmm...


Well, my daughter considers Sydney Bristow (of Alias) to be a princess. And she watches Mulan (Disney) frequently, so... Actually, it might have just been the flowers in the adept's hair. Are shadowrunners allowed to wear flowers in their hair? wobble.gif
Geekkake
QUOTE (Tiger Eyes)
QUOTE
QUOTE 
Gunslinger Adept: "A princess"



hmm...


Well, my daughter considers Sydney Bristow (of Alias) to be a princess. And she watches Mulan (Disney) frequently, so... Actually, it might have just been the flowers in the adept's hair. Are shadowrunners allowed to wear flowers in their hair? wobble.gif

SOP in SanFran.
Aku
QUOTE (Geekkake)
QUOTE (Tiger Eyes @ Apr 30 2006, 12:38 PM)
QUOTE
QUOTE 
Gunslinger Adept: "A princess"



hmm...


Well, my daughter considers Sydney Bristow (of Alias) to be a princess. And she watches Mulan (Disney) frequently, so... Actually, it might have just been the flowers in the adept's hair. Are shadowrunners allowed to wear flowers in their hair? wobble.gif

SOP in SanFran.

i thought that was only sop for guys?

ohh, that was wrong...
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