Full Version: Let's discuss the moral vagaries of SR.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| the UCAS is where all the lunatics and wackos go, both ultraliberal and ultraconservative. the CAS, to me, is where the more middle-of-the-road types have gravitated to. they seem more willing to look before they leap, embracing change only after checking it thoroughly. |
First off, you might want to add a few more political affiliations to that list. As an 'ultrasocialist', I mildly resent being lumped in with 'ultraliberals' (which is actually a fairly right-winged political ideal by today's standards). Secondly, your definition of the CAS is pretty much the definition of conservatism, with the whole 'change should go at a snail's pace, and certainly not occur within my generation' attitude. The 'Southern States' don't seem to have changed much post-Awakening, and they seem intent to keep it that way.
i'm talking 'conservative' and 'liberal' in a more literal sense, rather than the current political definitions. basically, the guys who are foaming at the mouth to maintain or regress the status quo (ultraconservative), and the guys who are foaming at the mouth to embrace any and every change that comes along (ultraliberal) all gravitate towards the UCAS.
i mean, look at the political parties in the UCAS. you've got the Archoconservatives (Klan with class), the Democratic Party (granola party #1), the Libertarians (corporate shills), the New Century Party (granola party #2), the Republicans (New Revolution), and the Technocrats (least insane because they don't know what they want).
compare that to the CAS. you've got the Republicans (the Archoconservatives that no one likes), the Democratic Reform Party (metahuman rights activists), the Southern Dems (corporate shills), and the Southern Conservatives (the other Archoconservatives that no one likes).
i mean, heck, the sheer number of viable parties in the UCAS speaks to the spastic nature of the population. basically, the CAS is more conservative, but they're less... volatilely conservative. the UCAS is volatilely conservative and volatilely liberal.
i mean, look at the political parties in the UCAS. you've got the Archoconservatives (Klan with class), the Democratic Party (granola party #1), the Libertarians (corporate shills), the New Century Party (granola party #2), the Republicans (New Revolution), and the Technocrats (least insane because they don't know what they want).
compare that to the CAS. you've got the Republicans (the Archoconservatives that no one likes), the Democratic Reform Party (metahuman rights activists), the Southern Dems (corporate shills), and the Southern Conservatives (the other Archoconservatives that no one likes).
i mean, heck, the sheer number of viable parties in the UCAS speaks to the spastic nature of the population. basically, the CAS is more conservative, but they're less... volatilely conservative. the UCAS is volatilely conservative and volatilely liberal.
| QUOTE (Voran) |
| While ignorance doesn't shield people from responsibility for their actions, in a way you have to feel sorry for the serfs of the megacorp. They're infused with a twisted sense of 'nationalism' and bombarded with constant propaganda and tests to their loyalty. They're not really evil, cause they make decisions without full knowledge, but their handlers and the higher ups in the corp that decide the actual course of their corps can be held more or less accountable, since they're making more informed choices. Once you come from that angle, stuff like corporate espionage is pretty understandable, much like spying between nations today. As for changing someone's memories cause they had a traumatic childhood, hard to say. Some people use their trauma to become better people, some people crack and freak out. Sorta related I guess, but think about what sorta art, literature, etc we may have missed out on if people we consider great artists were all put on mood stabilizing drugs or given grey humdrum memories.  |
haven't read the whole thread yet, so this might have been covered already, but if I didn't know any better, I'd think these words could aptly describe many nations on our globe today.
some psychologists say when we draw a person, we are always drawing ourselves... when we draw a home, we are always drawing our home...
perhaps when we create a world, we are recreating our world?
we always draw ourselves? damn, my tits are a lot bigger than they look in the mirror.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| we always draw ourselves? damn, my tits are a lot bigger than they look in the mirror. |
I think there would be subtler inferrences regarding how we percieve ourselves in drawing other ...genders...
So you think of yourself as crude and unrefined in your tastes, mfb?
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| i'm talking 'conservative' and 'liberal' in a more literal sense, rather than the current political definitions. |
Actually, the phenomenon of saying 'conservatives' and 'liberals' when they mean 'right' and 'left' is a relatively modern phenomenon. I don't know who started it, but I blame whatever yahoo decided that provinces should be called 'states', and states should be called 'countries'. Anyways, liberalism is a rather specific political ideal that refers to the belief that (among other things) personal freedom is paramount, and that a free enterprise economy is an important part of ensuring freedom. I feel that it is very important to draw a distinction between liberalism (a right-of-center ideal, thanks to its economic policies) and actual left-wing politics, as, in fact, liberalism and conservatism are not mutually exclusive. The United States needs to purge its vocabulary of political slang. Purge it with fire.
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| i mean, heck, the sheer number of viable parties in the UCAS speaks to the spastic nature of the population. |
Don't forget that half of the UCAS came from a multi-party system that probably took that aspect of itself in to the amalgamation (thank God). Cripes, maybe we need to burn down the White House again to remind you folks we exist.
EDIT: For spelling and minor additions.
Agreed. It's the modern Newspeak.
i prefer to think of my tastes as rugged and primal. i am like a lion, only with less fur and other lion-like characteristics. and more manly. like a furless lion lumberjack that doesn't have a tail. rawr.
regardless of the terminology involved, my point is that the UCAS seems to collect the extremists from both ends of the spectrum, while the CAS is being settled by the more middle-of-the-road voters.
regardless of the terminology involved, my point is that the UCAS seems to collect the extremists from both ends of the spectrum, while the CAS is being settled by the more middle-of-the-road voters.
"i is da mfb. i likes da boobies and da beer, even if da beer has some dirt in it." 
da mfb: accept no substitutes.
*wha-pow*
| QUOTE (Shanshu Freeman) | ||
I think there would be subtler inferrences regarding how we percieve ourselves in drawing other ...genders... |
Man, imagine what the hell that says about those guys that draw the tentacle rape monsters going at the magical schoolgirl power princess.
| QUOTE (Voran) | ||||
Man, imagine what the hell that says about those guys that draw the tentacle rape monsters going at the magical schoolgirl power princess. |
even freud said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar," maybe to some a tentacle is just a tentacle?
a tentacle is never just a tentacle. they're so multipurpose!
Especially not THOSE tentacles.
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