I noticed something screwy about the doberman drone and the law. A doberman drone has a free weapon mount on it. Yet it has an availibility raiting of six, perfectly legal. However a weapon mount is fobidden level. Is this a system inconsistancy or the result of owned congressmen?

Dobermans were mass marketed for a long time and there are a lot of them floating around now, which makes them fairly easy to get in the shadows.

I don't knowif it's canon, but it works for me.

I meant more of the legality status then the availibility.

Ah, I missed that. The doberman itself is perfectly legal. If you gett he free weapon mount the entire package becomes F. I would only shift it to F if there were actually a weapon in the mount myself.

it comes with a weapon james
read the description

I want a doohickey! I will pay $50 for one!

SR3 was the same way. Just do whatever works with your group.

As not all firearms are forbidden, I would say to have a Doberman would require a valid or fake owners license... as you would have any weapon.

Just make sure you don't mount your Doberman with a forbidden weapon or amunition. Having a Doberman protect your household isn't that much different than having a dog or having a registered gun in your home by 2070.

Except that the dog is a registered gun.. with full auto capability and heavy armor.

And your average dog or handgun can't be hacked and sent on a rampage.

Which is why your average Dog or Gun sucks.

Oh, good grief.

Now I'm going to have images of a Doberman/Aibo mix with LMG mounted Dynamutt-style on the back all night.

awesome

Here is the way I look at it.
WHen you buy a gun mount, you are retrofitting somthing not intended to have a weapon to have a weapon. now a doberman is pretty much a home security drone. It has a free weapons mount because, well, it is designed for shotin'. but untill you actually get a weapon there, whats it matter if you have a license

It actually says "Comes equipped with one weapon (LMG or smaller)", but since that represents quite a wide range of price in comparison to the overall drone I just take it to mean that you buy the drone and that you pick out the accessory at the extra price and availability.

If a player was being a rules lawyer prick about it? Being dull witted i'd likely just resort to violence. But maybe a better way would be that it says it comes with one weapon, not with the purchaser's choice of weapon. Have the supplier strap one of these bad boys into the "standard" model. Upgrades available at extra cost, pending government licensing...or appropriate sized bribe.

or just put the word "mount" into the "Comes equipped with one weapon (LMG or smaller)", and presto it all makes sense (kinda)...

still, there is the steel lynx to take into account. it have a availability of 12R. and the text for it contains "carries one weapon (LMG or smaller).

but i guess this is classical SR. each time the main book comes out, the vehicle stuff is confusing as hell. it becomes marginaly less with the rigger book, and then comes a new main book shortly after that...

I'm working on the Rigger conversion! All will be made clear in time. They were apparently squeezed for time and space releasing SR4 so Rigger's and vehicles got the shaft. Ah well.

Along with my Rigger conversion I'm also going to release an alternate (more detailed) "chase" combat system. One that actually takes the speed of the vehicle into account. Sorry, that just ticks me off. "Why do I need a Eurocar? I can catch up to him with a tricycle if I roll well enough..." Sheesh.

I meant that the doberman is not restricted, thus you can ignore avail rules if your fake SIN passes muster at the store

It does say that it comes with one weapon up to LMG, but our group saysa that you have to pay seperatly for that weapon otherwise you could order it with a LMG (2k) Get the two autosoft rating 3 programs (1.2k) for only 3k.

Why should the Drone only cost 1k after the weapon

I say you would have to pay extra for your weapon of choice. and limit availibility to 12 as standard. dobeman with an ingram LMG will cost 5,000 plus, and be F legality. you really want to belt-feed that bad boy. the trick then is getting a van to hide your drone in, and move it to and from the target zone.

Really, i suspect the drone by itself (without a gun) is legal because of lobying by the corp that makes them. the megacorp puts pressure on the goverment to allow its product, while it creates jobs and dosent pay any taxes.