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emo samurai
I read the homonculus rules, and the plasteel one is awesomer, even though it has more Object Resistance. I was wondering if an orichalcum one would be even more awesome, and how much orichalcum it would take.
Ophis
A lot.
Jaid
i personally don't think it would be terribly good. we don't really have any information on the physical "attributes" of orichalchum, but i rather doubt the various metals add up to something as strong as plasteel is.

certainly, it would be so obscenely expensive as to not be worth it, no matter how rich you are (if you had that much orichalchum, you'd be better off using it for any number of other things).
HullBreach
Back in the old SR2 days we had a physical adept get his bones laced with the stuff. By all accounts its not much stronger than gold or pure copper (Both are very soft metals) but when you are your own weapon foci who cares?
Dissonance
The ultimate use of orichalcum is jewelry.

Nonmagical, non-foci, non-whatever jewelry. The fact that you can waste money on an obscenely rare and expensive substance on a mere necklace or circlet or decorative automatically makes you win the game.
Nidhogg
QUOTE (Dissonance)
The ultimate use of orichalcum is jewelry.

Nonmagical, non-foci, non-whatever jewelry. The fact that you can waste money on an obscenely rare and expensive substance on a mere necklace or circlet or decorative automatically makes you win the game.

Literaly. You win.

When you get to this point, you really have no excuse to go running anymore.
emo samurai
Except for fun.
Nidhogg
QUOTE (emo samurai)
Except for fun.

Psh, everyone knows that all runners are consumate proffesionals in black business suits whom know not the meaning of 'fun'.
Adarael
QUOTE
The ultimate use of orichalcum is jewelry.

Nonmagical, non-foci, non-whatever jewelry. The fact that you can waste money on an obscenely rare and expensive substance on a mere necklace or circlet or decorative automatically makes you win the game.


Already done. Engraved orichalcum ring on one PC's right ring finger, set with a diamond.

Because you're right. It sends a message. The message is "I am better than you, and have more disposable income." With the subtle under-message of, "If I am a mage... and I am... what does this object mean I could do to you?"
Nikoli
Kinda like buying a Lambourghini Countache and painting it Neon Lime Green.
2 Not so subtle messages being sent,
1: I can afford a car like this.
B: I have so much money, I don't have to take a car like this seriously.
Dissonance
Nikoli is exactly where I'm coming from. And so is Adarael. THAT is the kind of awesome I like.

If I could get one and if I could get good mileage on one, I'd buy a hearse, paint it purple, and give it a green felt interior. Possibly hydraulics.

Also, my dream Post-Apocalypse vehicle is an El Camino with a .50 cal machinegun mounted in the back. And I like how the Scion xB looks.

I have no freaking taste whatsoever.
hyzmarca
Bugatti Veyron, with Orihalcum fleck paint, enchanted, possessed by a spirit using the movement power.

Yes, the base price is one million Euros.
underaneonhalo
QUOTE (Dissonance)
If I could get one and if I could get good mileage on one, I'd buy a hearse, paint it purple, and give it a green felt interior. Possibly hydraulics.

I want a black one (a miller meteor of course) with lime green flames, matching green velour interior, and hydralics with 18" 100 spoke daytons in chrome. Oooh and a really cool floating grille!

I'd cruise around all day using my obnoxiously expense sound system to play my "death rock all day" playlist for all to enjoy. More people need to be exposed to the joy of the early 80's deathrock and batcave scenes after all...

Ok I'm done dreaming, I can barely afford a scion XB.
Justin Cray
QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Bugatti Veyron, with Orihalcum fleck paint, enchanted, possessed by a spirit using the movement power.

Yes, the base price is one million Euros.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.

Also I would love to take that baby for a spin. Around the globe.
emo samurai
What about a diamond homonculus? That shit can be made artificially, and it's really hard. I'd imagine it would be much stronger than the plasteel one.
Rotbart van Dainig
It may be hard, but brittle, too.
emo samurai
So what's better than plasteel?
Moon-Hawk
Unobtainium.
stevebugge
Unobtainium.

But it makes for slow typing fingers after handling
Slithery D
Titanium, maybe, but good luck shaping that in your local machine shop. And it should probably only give you maybe an extra couple of points of body and armor, maybe one of strength, and nothing for fist damage. Not worth the hassle.

I'm wondering why the plasteel Agility and Reaction are F-1 while for stone golems its F-3 and F, respectively. The agility makes sense on both, but a hinged stone statue reacts faster than a steel skeleton? I doubt it.
Pistons
I'm wondering why the plasteel Agility and Reaction are F-1 while for stone golems its F-3 and F, respectively. The agility makes sense on both, but a hinged stone statue reacts faster than a steel skeleton? I doubt it.

That may be due to their respective weights. I could be wrong, but iirc steel is denser and heavier than stone.
Slithery D
QUOTE (Pistons)
I'm wondering why the plasteel Agility and Reaction are F-1 while for stone golems its F-3 and F, respectively. The agility makes sense on both, but a hinged stone statue reacts faster than a steel skeleton? I doubt it.

That may be due to their respective weights. I could be wrong, but iirc steel is denser and heavier than stone.

Good call. The same force homonculi of different materials can actually mass the same, but maybe they thought denser materials of the same weight should react more slowly; the improved agility would have more to do with the articulation fo the hinges, which would presumably be better designed and more efficient on a custom designed skeleton than retrofitted on some clumsy stone.
WhiskeyMac
The bad part of a plasteel homonculus is if an opponent gets their hands on some of that plasteel dissolving spray. Spray that thing with a bottle of that and then just watch it ooze around biggrin.gif hehe

How about a homonculus made out of gelatin? Just make it cube shaped and hope no-one throws a fireball at it biggrin.gif

I would personally take one of these babies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lorean_DMC-12 and soup it up with a Porsche engine, nice 20-inch tires, an eardrum bursting sound system (cranking out all those great 80's songs), remote-controlled doors and probably some other crazy-ass improvements that would make me the envy of all nerds around biggrin.gif HAHA!
Samaels Ghost
Thought that spray was for Plascrete or something? Plas-something 7?
Slithery D
I only fear the rust beast from the new critters supplement.
LilithTaveril
Okay, let me see if I have this right: They're bringing the rust monster to SR?
Samaels Ghost
I think you're making shit up.
Slithery D
I hear it's an Awakened rottweiler that lurks at junk yards.
LilithTaveril
Well, all it needs is two tentacles that spring from its back and a fondness for meatshields with swords.
TonkaTuff
Yeah, the spray catalyst only worked on one particular formulation of plasteel, and would turn it gummy for several hours. But that knowledge was passed around, and the company issued a recall. So, of course, no one in their right mind still uses it. But because so much of it was put on the market, there's a chance an older, lower-security, or just plain poorer facility might still be using it. And, though it's not likely that a corportate or institutional magic-user would have a homonculus made of Plasteel-7... that powerful, but low-rent caster might have gotten less of a bargain on all that surplus plasteel than they thought they did.
Samaels Ghost
I thought that Plasteel-7 was a conspiracy. Sell a product that you know has obvious shadow uses, flood the larket with it, then hit the road and start selling the catalyst on the black market for BIG BUCKS. Sounds like a 'runner founded corp to me.
hyzmarca
QUOTE (WhiskeyMac)
The bad part of a plasteel homonculus is if an opponent gets their hands on some of that plasteel dissolving spray. Spray that thing with a bottle of that and then just watch it ooze around biggrin.gif hehe

How about a homonculus made out of gelatin? Just make it cube shaped and hope no-one throws a fireball at it biggrin.gif

I would personally take one of these babies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lorean_DMC-12 and soup it up with a Porsche engine, nice 20-inch tires, an eardrum bursting sound system (cranking out all those great 80's songs), remote-controlled doors and probably some other crazy-ass improvements that would make me the envy of all nerds around biggrin.gif HAHA!

Can a Spirit of Air hurl lightening bolts with enough power to activate a Flux Capacitor? If so, I see this setup being very useful.
Ophis
The calatlyst is for plascrete not plassteel.
Samaels Ghost
THat's what I said! I wasn't sure though. Wasn;t that in SOTA '64?
Ancient History
Catching up on what I missed while I was away. I'm just going to start laughing and y'all are gonna have to trust me that I deserve it.
Jaid
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
THat's what I said! I wasn't sure though. Wasn;t that in SOTA '64?

don't think so. i'm pretty surte it was in an old SR adventure. i think the very first one actually. DNA/DOA or something like that, iirc...
Ophis
QUOTE (Ancient History)
Catching up on what I missed while I was away. I'm just going to start laughing and y'all are gonna have to trust me that I deserve it.

Should we be worried now...
Ancient History
Oh yes. Yes you should be worried. Hee hee hee.
emo samurai
Tell us!!! Tell us! We need to knooooooW!
JongWK
QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Bugatti Veyron, with Orihalcum fleck paint, enchanted, possessed by a spirit using the movement power.

Yes, the base price is one million Euros.

Oh.

Oh my...

love.gif
Exodus
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)
It may be hard, but brittle, too.

And Diamonds can't be made artificially its a misnomer, Cubic Zirconia has a different chemical composition.
Metasigil
Sorry, Exodus, you're wrong. They can make artificial diamonds, in industrial and gem qualities.
Ancient History
QUOTE (emo samurai)
Tell us!!! Tell us! We need to knooooooW!

You'll find out eventually.
hyzmarca
QUOTE (JongWK)
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Aug 10 2006, 09:21 PM)
Bugatti Veyron, with Orihalcum fleck paint, enchanted, possessed by a spirit using the movement power.

Yes, the base price is one million Euros.

Oh.

Oh my...

love.gif

If only it were legal to marry a car.....





QUOTE (Exodus)
And Diamonds can't be made artificially its a misnomer, Cubic Zirconia has a different chemical composition.
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