If a mage has an implated cyberspur, and projects into the asteral plane, can he/she use the cyberspur in asteral combat?

to be clear, the cyberspur is not a weapon focus.

sorta. it'd just be a cyberspur shaped astral form. Still use Astral Combat skill, still do Charisma/2 damage.

What about an adept with astral perception?

just to clarify, the cyberspur doesn't have to "come with" the projecting mage. It depends on his self-image, which depending on the person may or may not include their implants.

my thoughts are along these lines

a weapon focus does 3 things in asteral plane:

1. it comes with you.

2. it adds dice = to force to your asteral combat pool.

3. it does the same damage it would have done in the physical world.


a (mundane) cyber spur would have all of those attributes

1. it comes with you because you paid essence for it.

2. it adds dice to your attack equal to force ( = 0 ).

3. Its still a cyberspur, so i think it should have the same effect in asteral plane as it does in physical world.
Because an unarmed attack in asteral space does the same amount of damage as an unarmed attack does in the physical world.

Making something a part of your body by paying essence doesn't make it magic, which is the difference here. A cyberspur just changes the shape of your natural body into something more pointy. Pointiness is irrelevant on the astral plane unless you're a weapon focus.

Do you use your astral strength (charisma) in astral space for damage with a weapon focus or do you use your regular strength?

gunsnammo

When using a Weapon Focus, the Astral Combat skill only applies to astral combat while astrally projecting. While dual-natured, you use the normal physical skill (Ie, blades for a weapon focus spur) and damage when fighting purely astral opponents. See the second paragraph of the Weapon Focus entry which starts on pg 192 and continues onto pg 192.

The simple answer is when using physical skills use physical damage, when using astral skill, use astral damage. However, the following may help.

There are several Modes of Astral Combat

Projecting/Astral vs Projecting/Astral
- Attack Pool = Astral Combat Skill* + WI
- Damage = CHA/2 or By Weapon Type if weapon focus, use Astral Attribute score

perceiving/Dual Nature vs Projecting/Astral
- Attack Pool = Astral Combat Skill* + WI
- Damage = CHA/2 or By Weapon Type if weapon focus, use Astral Attribute score

Projecting/Astral vs perceiving/Dual Nature
- Attack Pool = Astral Combat Skill* + WI
- Damage = CHA/2 or By Weapon Type if weapon focus, use Astral Attribute score

perceiving/Dual Nature vs Percieving/Dual Nature
- Attack Pool = Astral Combat Skill* + WI
- Damage = CHA/2 or By Weapon Type if weapon focus, use Astral Attribute score
OR
- Attack Pool = Active Combat Skill + Agility
- Damage = By Weapon Type, Use Physical Attribute scores

Mundane vs Percieving/Dual Nature
- Attack Pool = Active Combat Skill + Agility
- Damage = Per weapon

Projecting/Astral vs Mundane
- N/A

Mundane vs Projecting/Astral
- N/A

* The Astral Combat Skill can vary

So, weapon focus allows you to use the weapon's damage type even as an adept?

Cause I'm all confused again.

Normally, an adept astrally perceiving that attacks a spirit uses cha/2 for damage, yes?

If they have a weapon focused combat axe, do they now do combat axe damage + the weapon focus rating?