But K, thats what I have a PC thats all ready bigger, better and badder-ass then the PS3 is. My gf 8800 is in the mail... never mind that at 2048X1536 my resolution will be reasonable better then a 1080i HDtv (1080x1920).
Im getting a wii (when I can find and afford one) because its something new and different.
Full Version: xbox, playstation, or wii?
Well, yeah. I mean, Wii included, it has been a long time since there was a console that would do better for whatever you wanted than a computer. However, not all games come out for the computer, and dedicated devices mean that when you're doing one thing, the other device can be doing another thing—CPU-intensive games don't run so well on a computer that happens to be halfway through a four-hour compile cycle.
The fact that a GF8800 is, at least at the prices I'm finding, more expensive than a MSRP PS3 (the mythical beast) also contributes
(Edit: apparently the price varies pretty widely based on VRAM capacity. Still, even the cheaper ones look to be in the same pricerange as a complete non-Wii console.)
~J
The fact that a GF8800 is, at least at the prices I'm finding, more expensive than a MSRP PS3 (the mythical beast) also contributes
(Edit: apparently the price varies pretty widely based on VRAM capacity. Still, even the cheaper ones look to be in the same pricerange as a complete non-Wii console.)
~J
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It is. |
Er, no. Graphics are what you do the hardware. As such individual games will determine that.
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No, that isn't what I was claim. Oddly polygons are still the suck compared to prerendered or hand crafted graphics, so if you are really worried about visual you won't want to see any polygons at all.
Just polygon count alone doesn't define how 'good' something looks, there is a lot of polish that can bridge a polygon gap (see bottom of post why that is important). Further Wii games run at 480p which is, due to Sony's paranoia about pirating, going to be a relatively common resolution for people to play PS3 games at for a while.Now 3 years down the road that will actually mean something to a lot of people. Which is why I'm curious how fast Nintendo will turn around for their next console. Since they start making money right out of the gate they don't need the longer product life to recover the lead-loss. If you can turn a faster cycle you don't need to aim so far out ahead of the tech curve. Conversely if you plan for your hardware to be the technical top-end of your product line for 5+ years you need to push a lot farther out.
This is important because Microsoft has shown that making money isn't seen as a requirement for themselves at the moment, so they are willing to shorten up their development cycle to 4 years. If Microsoft sticks with a 4 year lifespan for the 360 and Sony and Nintendo both go with 5 years again (er, I guess Sony was actually 6 years between PS2 and PS3) Microsoft will have effectively broken themselves into the open so when they release the next-gen their competitor's won't have a sniff of substance to counter with.
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| (FYI: I can't use your link as evidence for your argument, as YouTube wants me to register with them to view it, which I will under no circumstances do) |
Er, it wasn't "evidence". It was just a funny video. Your loss if, for whatever bizzare reason, you don't want to take the 30 seconds to register for YouTube. *shrug*
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| That said, you've managed to replace a word that needs defining with another word that needs defining. |
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| Some people have fun looking at pretty things. More importantly, though, some people have fun with things like processor-intensive AI or physics. Some people also have fun with interesting input methods. |
Um, that's talking about the source of the fun. Measuring the 'fun' itself via observation of the player is what I was talking about. Actually 'fun' is somewhat understood at the physiological level, so objective measurement (to supplement subjective measurement) is quite possible.
Oh, and "substance" didn't need definition, it was qualification that it needed. Or at least it was the location of an ambiguity was leading to the two of you to talk crosswise.
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Sure you could, and you would be "correct". Except that it would be irrelavent to the current discussion, as opposed to relavent like mine was.
But the real gist of it is that a 360/PS3 title utilizing those extra polygons will cost twice at least as much to develop to the same standards a the Wii game. That money is going to come from somewhere. Apparenly partially out of the consumer's pocket (high list price for the games), but sadly history has shown that it often comes out of the quality of the game itself in design of the rules/play, the cleaning up of defects, and such. In the end being closer to photorealistic (which I do think you'll see with the PS3 and 360 since they have the higher potential for that, even though we've already seen top-line developers balking at going to 1080 because of storage, performance, and cost issues) tends to rank relatively low in enjoyment of the game, certainly way out of wack in comparison of how much the marketing, and even the general public, talk about the screen shots (and a static screen shot is pretty crappy by itself for determining how 'nice' a game looks in motion). But screen caps are easy to make into copy and hype up and show, so that's what we tend to get.
I was at the mall this weekend. There was a Wii display setup with 6 consoles playing different games, and there were lines for every one and a huge crowd.
Also, in the same mall, there was one demo PS3 set up, and it was broken.
Also, in the same mall, there was one demo PS3 set up, and it was broken.
lucky, the only setup i see is at best buy and they're all on the fritz 
i didn't get a WII for my birthday or christmas! grrr
now i don't feel so bad not getting the wife a christmas present :O
now i don't feel so bad not getting the wife a christmas present :O
hmm seems that the porn industry is going with HD DVD instead of blu ray. If they throw their collecting 14 billion dollar empire behind HD DVD will the war tip to in their favor thus making blue ray betta max? format war seems to be heating up. who will win?
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The people who buy the player that can read both 
Iirc, the first player that can do so was shown at ECS this week.
Iirc, the first player that can do so was shown at ECS this week.
yeah i heard about that. but i read that people would decide on one format instread of making two different ones and costing more money. So eventually 1 would win out. see if i can dig up that article.
and what about this woman dies of water intoxication competing for a WII
and what about this woman dies of water intoxication competing for a WII
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| and what about this woman dies of water intoxication competing for a WII |
Stupid people are doing stupid things every day.
To be fair, I'd class water intoxication as being something someone can reasonably not know to be dangerous.
Not that it's not still sorta stupid, but not the "person knowingly does dangerous thing for questionable reasons" kind of stupid.
~J
Not that it's not still sorta stupid, but not the "person knowingly does dangerous thing for questionable reasons" kind of stupid.
~J
Yeah, no chance for her to get awarded for a "Darwins Award".
I'm more concerned about the radio station for doing something so absurdly dangerous without the proper medical supervision.
In a desert environment under strenuous exercise, 0.75liters/hour is a reasonable upper limit for hydration. Even then, it is best to drink a pint or so of Gatorade every 4-6 hours or so to maintain electrolyte balance, at the very least.
Lay people, I can understand. But radio stations have lawyers who look over their contests with a fine-tooth-comb for any potential liability and those lawyers should have consulted a medical doctor about the safety of this contest
In a desert environment under strenuous exercise, 0.75liters/hour is a reasonable upper limit for hydration. Even then, it is best to drink a pint or so of Gatorade every 4-6 hours or so to maintain electrolyte balance, at the very least.
Lay people, I can understand. But radio stations have lawyers who look over their contests with a fine-tooth-comb for any potential liability and those lawyers should have consulted a medical doctor about the safety of this contest
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| I have found something that has helped me decide which I am going to get first: The Tie Breaker |
That's fucking hysterical. Thanks for sharing!
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That's fucking hysterical. Thanks for sharing! |
Remember, you aren't just playing with Wii; You're playing with everyone who Wii has ever played with.
I played with Wii, once. Three days later my doctor tells me that I have the clap. I know that I didn't catch it from a toilet seat.
If you do play with Wii, at least use a latex wiimote cover.
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