Shit! We were doing runs for Tickle-Me-Dunky™ dolls almost ten years ago.

LOL, I love the Wii comercials. Since I'm not yet at HD, I'll be picking one of those little doo-dads up, my soon to be roomie is getting the PS3 in a few weeks when supply is actually existing.

I own a 360, picked it up last May or so, love it. I was hestitant to drop $400 for it, and it mostly sat and played played DVD's for the first couple months, but I've really put it through it's paces lately. Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Marvel Ultimate ALliance consumed a large portion of my free time there.

A buddy got a Wii at launch, and we played it for like 6 hours. It's far, far more fun than I thought it would be. I'll be picking one up after Christmas. Wii Boxing and Wii baseball for the win

No one has said or done or shown me anything to kindle any interest in a PS3, even if one were to magically appear on the shelves at Gamestop. There's nothing confirmed right now that I absolutely must own or must play for the system, and the graphics haven't stunned me. Granted, in 3 or 4 years, sure, we'll start seeing the difference between the PS3 and 360, graphically, but until then, I doubt it'll be the least bit noticable. Between the price tag, Sony's "marketing" tactics and blunders, and just the ineptitude all around has really soured me on Playstation in general.

Bull

It is looking more and more like the wii for me. Low price, kid friendly games that allow my kid to excercise to a limited fashion. The only drawbacks are no dvd player and i'm not to sure if there are any stragety/rpg's slated for wii.

got courious today looked over on ebay you too can own your own PS3 for a mear 900 to 1100 bucks.

*Waves little flag in air*

~J

Posted before but it's still appropriate.


-karma

No, it's been fucking stupid since VGCats posted it, but don't let that distract you.

(See shortage discussion above)

~J

Meh, says you. I think it's hilarious.

1.) I always wait a year when a new system comes out. So it is now time for me to pick up an Xbox360.

I've been impressed with the system.

And a year from now I'll pick up a PS3. It doesn't cost that much if you plan and dont impulse buy.


2.) People were really shocked by the PS3 violence. But people are not being robbed and killed for PS3s... they are being robbed and killed for MONEY, on the whole. Friend of mine made $1500 profit on X360 resales. The PS3 resales were just as rediculous.

have a dvd/vcr combo thing where the dvd player part of it gave up the ghost. Whenever i tried inserting a cd it spits it back out. Had my PS2 hooked up anywho and just watch dvds on that now. Might have to buy a new player when/if i get the wii.

i've leared more and more to stragedy than rpg as i feel the final fantasy series has steadily moved from game enjoyment to fmv sequences and the like. The only game I'm still playing for PS2 is romance of the three kingdomss 8 and civilization III (picked it up and Freedome force vs the thrid reich for 7.99 each). That's kinda what I"m looking for for myself, but like i said before i want a system my 5 year old and the wife can enjoy as well.

Here is the biggest problem. And its why Im not bothering with either of the expensive 7th gen boxes. Blue Ray vs. HDDVD. One of them is going to loose big, and I all ready have enough dead end tech in my PC (phucking switch away from socket 939...), so Im going to get a Wii and enjoy my self. We all remember Betamax, or laser disks. or if you don't, well this is your time to watch.

hmm... would you call zelda more of an adventure game then? It's not the final fantasy template, but I thought of game like that as rpg's in the console world.

Well, I'm not sure what, exactly, constitutes an RPG, but you don't "level up", you don't get to make your character, you don't have any decisions to make in a completely linear plot. Not that an RPG necessarily needs all of those things, but most of them have at least one of them.
For what it's worth, gamespot categorizes Twilight Princess as a "Fantasy Action Adventure".

And just to be clear, I am not ragging on Twilight Princess. It's a fantastic game. Wonderful. I just wouldn't categorize it as an RPG.

I'm down home for the "classic" rpg ala the early FF titles. I long for the pixelated versions of yore and although the lastest edition looks interesting, it doesn't have that jump up and grab your crotch kinda feel like the old ones did.


echo that on the price. PS3 priced itself out of contention for me. I could just buy a new comp sans the monitor for a hundred more bucks or so that is pretty top of the line. Plus my wife would go ballistic.

xbox is a long shot possibility, but i don't see any kid like games my 5 year old would enjoy...

yeow! 2 thousand bucks?!?! looks like my definition of i upper end model differs from most. Put one together for 600 bucks roughly not too long ago. Man if i spent 2k my wife would kill me!

A GeForce 8800GTX with 768MB of GDDR3 with a PCI Express x16 interface goes for about $630. That's pretty much the top of the line of gaming cards. Any more than that and you're looking at a graphics editing workstation.

But in the PC Gaming world "Top of the line" is generally unnecessary. No current game is going to push that graphics card to its limits.

But, one thing to remember about home consoles is that they are not top=of-the-line. Sure, they've got powerful hardware but they aren't nearly as powerful as a home PC can be. The big advantage is the hardware uniformity combined with far less abstraction. This allows the programmers to write for the hardware specifically instead of writing generically and the lack of the abstraction layers provided by an operating system greatly reduces the overhead.

Yes. Not, however, necessarily cheaper than card now + card then.

Besides, my point isn't that anyone needs a top-of-the-line gaming graphics card, but that a computer in the pricerange Hocus Pocus is talking about is less expensive than a top-of-the-line graphics card, making it clearly not top-of-the-line. How much that matters is an entirely different discussion that I'm not going to get into.

~J

Yes, i think Sony priced themselves out of 1st place in the market, even if they had managed to produce a respectable number of consoles for launch. The only way you can really see the machine as having a good price would be to compare it to today's Blu-Ray disc players.

i saw a special lastnight on spike tv. a gameshow highlighting the nentindo wii and saw that you could downloand the old games. That has pretty much sealed the deal for me purchasing one (though i already have the cartriges of my favorite games) playing and then sometimes seeing all the info erase when the screen blaks out when starting up the systems sucks.


playing games like act raiser. The first beautiful song i ever heard, when they make the song for the man who died.


FF4? seeing edward play the harp and pine for anna. palom and porom sacrificing themselves to stop the walls from closing in. Tellah...poor tellah casting meteo to try and kill goblez in revenge for his daughter anna dying by golbez hand.

ff6 cyan loosing his family and runing after them on the ghost train. Relm and he sweet innocents. locke losing his woman. terra being used. celis my sweet celis, so alone and singing the beatiful song at the opera house! dont' fret my love! come to my arms and I"ll hold you till the end of time JUST SAY YOU LOVE ME!!!! ultros...ha ha ha ultros..."it'll take me eactly 5 minutes to drop this weight" kefa the best ff villan of all time. general leo...i can go on!


suffice it to say. go wii!


now if the ps3 can do the games of suikoden (awesome game all around), wild arms (beautiful begining), vandal hearts (that woman singing is beatufil). I"d even consider ps3

FF4 and FF6 will probably end up on there, as Square Enix is confirmed in support of the Virtual Console, but Act Raiser will almost certainly not end up on the VC—Quintet, IIRC, owns at least part of the rights to it, and they're probably defunct (while the company still exists, there hasn't been any news out of them since early 2002).

~J

Here's a list of initial VR Console games.

I currently have in my household (For my four kids ) A PS2, GameCube and an x-box. We play them all fairly frequently. But for this next round, I'm afraid Sony and MS has priced me out of their market.

With the Wii able to play Gamecube games, and the downloadable 'classic' games on tap, we will go with that - some time next year after the first couple batches have sold out. (We have had issues with bot the PS2 and GC's cd player crapping out after a couple years. Sony fessed up and fixed it for free. Nintendo wants $50 regardless to fix it.) *Shrug* We'll put the money to the Wii next year.

I really hope the Wii out sells them all - and send some sort of notice to MS and Sony that five to six hundred bucks is a bit much.

my birthday is a few days before chirstmas so i think I'll buy the wii around the probably if there are any left.

Just get some real games for it. I've been doing some thinking lately, and have become seriously worried that Nintendo's strategy of targeting non-gamers may kill off gaming. For evidence of this, look at board gaming—anything outside of Monopoly, Risk, and other low-quality, simple games is very solidly a niche market.

On the other hand, I can get some amusement value out of saying that party games scare me.

~J

it is a novel stragety admitedly. targeting the audience that doesn't typically play video games a bunch. Girl gamers (i still say that is any oxymoron) and people more concerned with substance than graphics they'll hoping to woo. Me personally i have strayed away from console gaming to pc gaming but the wii has me intereested again. Nintendo to me seems more "kiddy fied" and "wholesome" more align with familys and such. It looks to be a system where my kids and i can play without to much button smashing and complicated techinques to do things. I hope to get the wife playing again as well and racing games is what she likes. I find today's games don't really take much time to beat and miss the days where you actually immerse yourself with the game, not just play it for it's flashiness. both my kids were playing this dance thingy for the game cube today and they LOVED it. I would have like to have goteen a ps3 but their price is too high, maybe they'll come down a bit later. for me first and foremost my kids gotta be able to play it. If their happiness means i have to give up final fantasy titles then so be it.

board games i attribute to more "adult" type of entertainment whereas you go over and have a nice social gathering and you play something like that.


i apologize if i seem to ramble on but i've been drinking and watching naruto episodes

Tangenting back to board games, they're actually doing better now than they have in years, with games like Settlers of Catan, Ticket to Ride and several others getting widespread acceptance beyond board gaming geeks.

That is true, and a hopeful sign. It's entirely possible that there's going to be a societal shift towards general acceptance of more varied and complex forms of play, or that I'm simply trying to read patterns where there either are none or where the ones that exist are beyond my ability to perceive without significant research.

Still, a world where Age of Renaissance can be out of print worries me.

~J

well over the weekend and today i went looking for a wii and as expected no dice but I'm as patient as a noiseless paitent spider, i can wait.


lol my wife found out i was looking for one and she was like "why are you looking for it you are not gonna get it"

no plans for shadowrun? i don't have the genesis version

What?

~J

I believe Hocus Pocus is wondering if either SNES or Genesis Shadowrun games will be available for download and play on the Wii, since the Wii is supporting classic game downloads from both consoles.
I, too, am wondering this.

No public plans. I don't know if it'd take Microsoft/FASA Interactive's go-ahead to make them available, but if so you can expect it to happen just after Hell freezes over and just before Redmond deals with its flying pig problem.

If it doesn't rely on that, the question gets more complex. The Genesis game was published directly by Sega, so it would have a pretty decent chance of coming out. The SNES game, on the other hand, was published by now-defunct Data East, who are now owned by a company focused on providing games for mobile phones. I find it pretty unlikely that that one's going to resurface.

~J

yeah i got the snes version, but since i don't have a genesie i didn't get the sega one. The sega one's mechanics were definately better