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Prime Mover
Found reference to Tattoo magic in 4th edition but not seeing any details anywere. Do them as Anchoring Foci?

So is the Renraku Arc still empty, under control of Seatle Metroplex....condemed,for lease or other?

A current mission has gotten my players thinking, at least one member of black lodge and many of Elven leaders seem to be immortal. They recently have discoverd free spirit power of hidden life. Have the elves and DeMolay made pacts with free spirits to be immortal ? hmmm.....


Okay this ones way off base, but wondering if anyone in the know could tell me racial attribute mods and abilities of T'Skrang and Obsidian Men.

Think thats it for now, as always looking forward to some other opinions and ideas!
Fortune
QUOTE (Prime Mover @ Nov 23 2006, 12:19 AM)
Found reference to Tattoo magic in 4th edition but not seeing any details anywere.  Do them as Anchoring Foci?

QUOTE (Street Magic-pg. 85)
Quickening materials are a form of ritual material (see Ritual Materials, p. 81) that may be used with the Quickening metamagic (see Quickening, p. 190, SR4). When quickening a spell to a living subject, an initiate may use quickening materials to bind the magic to the targetís aura. Using quickening materials always creates a physical representation of the spell on the subject, normally a brand, tattoo, or ritual scar.


Seems that Tattoo Magic is part and parcel of the Quickening Metamagic in SR4.

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So is the Renraku Arc still empty, under control of Seatle Metroplex....condemed,for lease or other?


It is now being used as a guarded low-income housing complex.

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Okay this ones way off base, but wondering if anyone in the know could tell me racial  attribute mods and abilities of T'Skrang and Obsidian Men.


Sure. They are listed in the main Earthdawn rulebook.

Fortunately, they just don't exist in Shadowrun canon, so there are no official stats for either of them for any Shadowrun edition.
Prime Mover
Thanks Fortune, musta read right over quickening reference.

I know those stated in Earthdawn, but like my first edition SR books my Earthdawn stuff was lost along with my first marriage. ;')

Grinder
QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 22 2006, 02:33 PM)
QUOTE (Street Magic-pg. 85)
Quickening materials are a form of ritual material (see Ritual Materials, p. 81) that may be used with the Quickening metamagic (see Quickening, p. 190, SR4). When quickening a spell to a living subject, an initiate may use quickening materials to bind the magic to the targetís aura. Using quickening materials always creates a physical representation of the spell on the subject, normally a brand, tattoo, or ritual scar.


Seems that Tattoo Magic is part and parcel of the Quickening Metamagic in SR4.


Hey, didn't notice that (and were wondering where Tattoo Magic was gone). Thanks for the hint. smile.gif

QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 22 2006, 02:33 PM)

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Okay this ones way off base, but wondering if anyone in the know could tell me racial  attribute mods and abilities of T'Skrang and Obsidian Men.


Sure. They are listed in the main Earthdawn rulebook.

Fortunately, they just don't exist in Shadowrun canon, so there are no official stats for either of them for any Shadowrun edition.

sarcastic.gif Sadly you mean, I guess. biggrin.gif
If the mana level is high enough, it's likely that the now-lost races will re-appear. One can find a few references to "rock-men" in SoA, as well as Windlings in the old PAoE book iirc.
Fortune
Ok ...

Earthdawn Racial Abilities ...

Obsidimen: Increased Wound Threshold of +3, Minimum Strength Value of 15, Natural Armor (add +3 to Physical Armor Rating)

T'skrang: Tail Attack

Earthdawn Racial Modifiers ...

Obsidiman: Dex: -2 / Str: +6 / Tough: +4 / Per: -1 / Will: +0 / Cha -1

Tískrang: Dex: +1 / Str: +0 / Tough: +1 / Per: +0 / Will: +0 / Cha +1

Hope that helps. smile.gif
Fortune
QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 23 2006, 01:03 AM)
One can find a few references to "rock-men" in SoA, as well as Windlings in the old PAoE book iirc.

One reference, and he is supposed to be the product of SURGE ... not Living Rock. Windlings are probably not intelligent enough to be Sprites ... but I won't argue that point again.

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If the mana level is high enough, it's likely that the now-lost races will re-appear.


Lou Prosperi (among others) stated a long time back that they just didn't make it through the 5th Age. There was a similar trimming of namegiver races in the 3rd Age downcycle as well.
Prime Mover
Always had hard time buying into mana levels theory, theres Drakes and what not already and obviously the mana levels have peaked unaturally due to outside forces.

On other hand the lose or addition of races might be natural effect of cycles....or two vitas plauges two missing races....might make for good story line....maybe the Elves were messing with Vitas in Christmas Valley hehe.
Grinder
[QUOTE=Fortune,Nov 22 2006, 03:13 PM] [QUOTE=Grinder,Nov 23 2006, 01:03 AM] One can find a few references to "rock-men" in SoA, as well as Windlings in the old PAoE book iirc. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
One reference, and he is supposed to be the product of SURGE ... not Living Rock. Windlings are probably not intelligent enough to be Sprites ... but I won't argue that point again.[/QUOTE]

Thought there was another one, with the people living at the sibirian lake. The posters in SoA think that it's SURGE, because most of them don't know of the 4th Age wink.gif

[QUOTE=Grinder,Nov 23 2006, 01:03 AM]
If the mana level is high enough, it's likely that the now-lost races will re-appear. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fortune,Nov 22 2006, 03:13 PM]
Lou Prosperi (among others) stated a long time back that they just didn't make it through the 5th Age. There was a similar trimming of namegiver races in the 3rd Age downcycle as well. [/QUOTE]
Didn't know the statement of Lou, sorry. To me it was like I said and I never cared what happened to that races in the 5th Age. I mean, Elves, Orks and the other races re-appeared in the 6th World when the mana level was high enough. Why is that impossible for the rest, even though it will take some hundred years before enough mana flows around in the 6th World.
Garrowolf
Trimming as in someone trying to get rid of them?
Fortune
QUOTE (Garrowolf @ Nov 23 2006, 01:42 AM)
Trimming as in someone trying to get rid of them?

That is a definite possibility, but really it could just come down to a race's ability to adapt during the downcycles ... survival of the fittest.

I am not sure of the actual numbers, but I recall that quite a few name-giver races fell away between the end of the Second World and the advent of the Fourth.

As for the rock dude ... IIRC, he is (or was?) quite the bigwig in what is now Evo, so isn't (or wasn't) very low-profile. I'm sure if he was an actual Obsidiman, his appearance would have caused more of a stir. nyahnyah.gif
SL James
Well, it was still Yamatetsu in System Failure.

QUOTE (System Failure @ 104)
> What about Hideo Yoshida, his racist pal? Last thing I heard he was holed up in his Peruvian mansion.
> Llama Mama

> This might surprise a few, but Yoshida has done a full 180 degrees turnaround on racism and SURGE. I think he finally understood that being a half-ton rock-like changeling put him on the other side of the fence.
> Sagan

> Yoshidaís up to something. Heís been busy funding some weird archeological operations, mostly in the Andes and disguised as mining prospecting.
> Elijah


'Tis all that is said about that.
Fortune
QUOTE (SL James @ Nov 23 2006, 06:55 AM)
Well, it was still Yamatetsu in System Failure.

Yeah, I know ... but believe it or not, I drew a blank on the damn name (both his and the Corp's) when I actually went to post, so worked around it. smile.gif
Grinder
There is an obsidiman reference in SoA, I know it. I'll check the book tomorrow.
fistandantilus4.0
Yep, in teh section about yakut, seeing rockmen walk around. IIRC, someone dismisses them as elementals.
wind_in_the_stones
The Arcology Commercial and Housing Enclave is part apartments and part mall. Five floors of malls, supposedly the next 200 are residential, and the top floors sealed off. 150,000 residents. As low-income housing in the middle of downtown, it's mostly sealed off - travel by residents is restricted. Everything is provided for the residents - food, clothing, opportunities to serve the greater good by particpating in corporate experiments...

p.117, Runner Havens

Ever play paranoia? twirl.gif
SL James
QUOTE (Grinder)
There is an obsidiman reference in SoA, I know it. I'll check the book tomorrow.

Tomorrow has come and gone. Anyway, since I'm bored.

QUOTE (SOA @ 143)
> Speaking of the Draco Foundation, on Olkhon Island, people apparently have started seeing rock-beings wandering around. I think itís fake, but a lot of serious people seem interested, including the Draco Foundation and the Apep Consortium.
> Magister

> What, youíve never seen an earth elemental?
> Wycche

> Itís not an earth elemental. I saw one of these rock-things further east, past Ulan Ude. Sorry to burst your bubble, but itís just an Evenk variation of the Stoneskin spell. The astral signature was weird, though.
> Baba Yaga
Grinder
I didn't have the time to look for it. Thank you for doing so smile.gif
SL James
No problem.
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