I'm not certain whether you were being facetious in your post, but I think that's a terrible idea. I mean, we're not living in Seattle. We're not being bombarded by messages that half of all prostitutes are elves. Not to mention that we know for a fact that Kenneth Brackhaven is evil, so we're not going to vote for him; and I think we all know that it's quite possible for evil people to be elected to high office. Not to mention that we, as people who feel most sympathy for shadowrunners, are going to be more likely to vote for the ex-fixer than the AR Moms or the Urban Brawl Dads.

What might be a better poll would be something like "If you lived in 2070 Seattle, what issue would be most important to you?" or some such, and then base the results on the strengths of the candidates on each issue.

Now that sounds like a great way to figure out the outcome of the Seattle election. I think we should do that, and by we I mean not myself since I have not a clue about how to run a proper political campaign for a would be governor. I would love to see it happen though.

LOL. You cant tell me that if anyone else would have died you would not have killed them either? Presidential assisinations are so rare Dunkie would be the 3rd right? (considering if he was assisinated)

Well if its so bad I guess you will have to wait for the writers to publish who won. My guess is the technocrat lady considering emergence (which I havent got a hold of yet) has just been published.

What?

First of all, we don't know shit about whether he's evil. Just because he's linked to Humanis doesn't, itself, make him evil. It makes his detractors stupid because racist =/= evil.

Second, who's this "we" shit? I'd vote for him, if for no other reason than because he's the only decent candidate (how Strouthers got elected in the first place is nothing short of baffling).

No, you wouldn't.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Poor, poor Garfield and Mckinley.

What does a president have to do to be remembered by the citizens of his own country, these days.

Even getting assassinated isn't enough! You also need a hook, like starting a civil war or looking pretty on TV.

In the relative sense, nothing is evil.

Specifically, if you are a metahuman, Brackhaven is not just evil, he is the Devil. And we have been given no indications that he's well intentioned but misguided. THE DEVIL, I TELL YOU!!!

If you are a xenophobic human, he's the greatest statesman since Reagan. Or whoever rocks your boat.

My fault James. I ment to say....if any of the other canidates had gotten elected would you have assisnated them to? Its one of those what if questions I dont think will ever get answered. But I dont think Dunkie being president is all that bad Although I would say the dragon heart plot line was at least a 5 out of 10 (yeah players go t a lot of good but a lot of bad at the same time).

No Canadian Prime Minister (our version of the American President) has been assassinated that I could see. There were two political members assassinated in Canadian history, Pierre Laporte and D'Arcy McGee. Pierre was a Canadian politician who was the Vice-Premier and Minister of Labour of the province of Quebec and was killed October 1970. D'Arcy was a Parliment member for Montreal West and died in 1868.

Now, as for Shadowrun history, I don't remember Canada by itself getting very much mention in the pre-UCAS merger timeline, and after checking it over, they are mentioned a few times about NAN and the UCAS merger, both mentioned right away what happened in the US. I also doublechecked with the 6th World Wiki (don't have time to dig out my books right now) to see if there was any notable mention of Canada in the books before the formation of the NAN and UCAS and all the timeline and reference stuff I see happens after Canada gets divided.

The thing that I get a kick out of is that, as a Canadian, I still remember when Quebec was trying to seperate. I would love to find the picture they used in the news conference where Native Americans of various councils who have land in Quebec said that they would stay with Canada, and thus Quebec was reduced in land to like a strip along the St Lawrence river or something. Be kinda interesting if that was what the Republic of Québec ended up with instead of taking over Newfoundland (but not Labrador).

It was Dunkelzahn who was supposed to die the whole time. However, it's not like he wasn't leading throughout the entire voting period, so it's not like it wouldn't make a major impact rather than all the sudden he just disappears off the face of the Earth, never to be seen again (That's his translator's job, apparently). So, no, because it wasn't about the President getting whacked. It was about the wyrm getting whacked.

But quite frankly, the whole thing was nonsense, as were the candidates. Dunk was painted from the very beginning as the "good" candidate, which is bullshit because there never will be such a creature in Presidential elections. Likewise, FASA's, and now Fanpro's, aversion to professional politicians getting anywhere is fucking retarded. With the exception of General Yeats, the 2057 candidates would never have made it through the primary process.

What amazes me is that the UCAS has the worst electoral system in the world - a system that doesn't even work for municipal mayoral elections, let alone Presidential elections - because there is no process by which to cull the dead weight candidates, and ensure that the President was elected by at least a large plurality (e.g., 40%+1) of votes. For as progressive as the authors are, or wish to be, there are several options which could be utilized (that is, outside of this ridiculous multi-party system, like even the Canadians tolerate a Dutch-style coalition government) such as Instant Runoff Voting (especially given the whole "remote vote" system). IIRC, Dunkelzahn won with 23% of the vote. Even if he had lived, let alone if anyone else had one, getting anything done that required legislation (IOW, anything that needs funding - everything) would have stalled forever in Congress.

Bang up system, there. Real winner.

To be fair, Reagan won his elections. Four times, in fact.

As for the election, Brackhaven would be getting token assistance from the party. Winning a primary by destroying your opponent doesn't endear them to helping you out in the general. In many cases, all they have to do is not pick up the phone, and unless you are a super-candidate, you lose by 45 points on election day against one general opponent. The fact that Brackhaven pissed off his party presumptive nominee, the core of the party which he carpetbagged his way into (that is, the people who run shit within the party), and the national party's standard-bearer, and yet still leads, is a testament to being a Hell of a statesman, period.

This was actually one of the things I'd wondered most about in the UCAS congressional system. I figure that it actually does resort to coalition-building, unless someone can point to where it says otherwise (probably the DC section in NAGNA).

However, it seems that in such systems, the coalition only ends up becoming a party in and of themselves in the SR world, such as with the CAS and their shakeup in SoNA.

Of course he did. What would be the point of making him a model for future generations of conservative if he hadn't had a successful career?

I thought that was the Ute system, not CAS?

NAGNA and the NAN books are much better books than SoNA, but that's immaterial here.

The system in NAGNA, the way it was designed was fine, because there were three major parties, and of that the rise of the Technocratic Party followed the pattern of how third or fourth parties in this country have become major parties (e.g., the GOP). What fucked it all up was Super Tuesday, SoNA, and by extension SSG and whatever else has come from it.

And in that case, you bet your fucking ass I think the author didn't know what he was doing.