Well, I put 1 point towards a Group Doc and one point towards a Group Fixer. I figure without those two we won't be able to purchase the cyberware and shotguns that we will eventually want.

Also I put one point towards one other Gang Contact. Good buys include:

A Sim-sense Pornographer. Allowing us to potentially hustle some of our members and associates for fast cred, as well as getting us a line on new black-market simsense. A must-have if we want to go into BTL marketting.

A Jo-Pok or Vory Smuggler. There's all kinds of crazy crap coming out of East Asia, and the Yakuza and Triads are already well established here. The Seoulpa Rings are also big news here in Seattle, but they aren't particularly connected to the Jo-Pok of mainland Korea. All kinds of tasty black-market goodies want a place to be sold in Seattle Markets that just aren't getting a fair shake from the established criminal syndicates in this city, and we could change that.

A corporate programmer. We don't have terribly good programs right now, and don't really have a line on getting better ones. A sympathetic ear in NEONet or Renraku could really turn us into a Matrix force.

A corrupt Lonestar Captain. He gives us creds and addresses, we start shit, the Star comes in and arrests resident adults, and he gets to pad his record. Everybody wins. Also, we have a guy on the force who has a very compelling reason to want us to be out of jail (or dead, but them's the breaks).

An alchemist. Drugs have to come from somewhere, and the syndicates have a lock on all the drugs that come from Columbia. But there's lots of other drugs that come from the kitchens of entrepeneurs, and those need a way to get to market as well.

Tanamous. Sooner or later, we're going to want to get our hands on some bioware, and of course we're probably going to be making some corpses out of some people who have gear. Ghouls will pay like 10¥ a kilogram from human meat - that's good money.

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Of course, we'll need a mechanic, but that seems to be taken care of.

-Frank

Dang - you guys post fast when you're interested. THere's like, 5 extra pages from when I last looked.

Granted, my power went out yesterday, but still...

I guess I'll check the wiki and see what I find interesting. For some absurd reason, I think a gambler would be funny...but a ganger gambler? wierd, lol...

Probably think of something else.

That inspires me to try and make 3 different models then, lol, a gambler, a ganger-mage (hey, I like magic, even if it's bloody expensive now) and maybe a mundane.

THen I just have to pick which one I plan to try, if things get along. ^-^;

The board Eat my Character... Thankfully it was still in the Cache... I now have a backup post on my computer...

Thyme

Race: Troll [40]
Name:Thyn


Thyme...

Is there a deadline for submitting concepts/characters? My concept is still being developed, but I thought it'd be interesting to play a corp kid (albeit a corp kid with some useful skills) who didn't rebel, run away from home, get kicked out, etc.

Instead event X (which is being worked on) caused his family to lose their status and position, maybe even leaving him orphaned and out on the streets. Trying to adapt what he knows to make it useful in this entirely alien world.

Anyway, any deadlines TG?

I'll probably want to kick something off next week sometime. However, one of the nice things about a game like this is that you can easily add characters into the action or just generate other action for them to take part in.

Character...

Juice or JJ (both)
Human
Concept: jack of few trades

1 BP towards Gang Contact

Attributes (170 BP)


Skills (128 BP)


Knowledge Skills (18 free)


Qualties (0 total BP)


Gear (1 BP)


I guess JJ has had some recent problems which account for his not having any real gear to speak of.

The street knowledge skills are adaptable per the location we settle in.

JJ is basically a low life street urchin thief that can fight back a little. He has a good base of attributes to spread out in different directions as he grows up. JJ is the sort of kid that has tons of potential but applies it in all the wrong ways at all the wrong times.

He doesn't currently have a bike, but he plans on stealing one very, very soon.

ah...frag. my skills and qualities and stuff got zapped when i edited my post.

friggin rework!

I strongly suggest keeping a backup of your character - with tags on your own computer in the word processing format of your choice. The "Edit Post" button will only call up part of your character, so it's best to just delete the field and copy/paste the current version from your home document.

Otherwise you have to retype about 3/4 of your work every time you want to change a period or fix a run-on sentence.

-Frank

Should there be a modification of the starting nuyen?

Since we are all gangers, I would think we'd have less than the starting runner would.

Yep, but I am talking about starting nuyen, not resources bought during character creation.

Staring nuyen is by lifestyle:

Street 1D6 x 10¥
Squatter 2D6 x 20¥
Low 3D6 x 50¥
Middle 4D6 x 100¥
High 4D6 x 500¥
Luxury 4D6 x 1,000¥

I was thinking that maybe these should be decreased as well. Eh, I guess there could be a moderately nuyened ganger though.

I just don't see my character having much money...especially since the rent has already been paid.

Thyn is now on the Wiki... for review...


Thyme....

I made some small changes to the Thyn of the Wiki, it isn't the exact same as here, but all the changes should be really small ones.


Thyme.

Thyn

I'm interested in playing.

Looking at a a troll martial artist adept.

Also, is it just me, or does everyone seem to own a Suzuki Mirage? Another gang symbol?

Will you allow Adepts to have Mentor Spirits? SR4 is contradictory, and they could in previous editions.

I've posted Neo's stats to the wiki.

History

Is my character the only one without addictions?

If I took some addictions I could get more points...
But If I leave as is... I won't have to deal with addictions...


Thyme...

What about our gang's name?

And symbol? I need to get it tattooed on my neck or something.

And Gang-colors. We should have colors.

Also, I noticed at least two of the characters have a bunch of street-drugs on them, with prices listed as N/A. I'm not sure if TG went over this already, but can we start with free street drugs?

I don't intend to have Knives be addicted, or even use them , but if they're free, and the others are addicted, or we sell them, I might as well stock up.

So right now, we have:
4 Humans...
2 Troll...
1 Drawf

I'm not as sure, but we also have
5 Males...
2 Females...

Thyme...

Prices for street drugs are on my to-do list along with a few more house rules.

On Technomancers, the maximum resonance you can buy is 3. If you use cyberware, this will lower the 3. You can't buy 4 and then lower it. The same goes for mages/adepts. No 3 magic + cyberware.

Also, the bp cost of resonance is just 10 per point. It doesn't double like magic because it's, generally, less powerful than magic points. The only restriction is the 3.

On the plus side, I'm adding a house rule for threading that technomancers will find useful.

EDIT: Oh, and now when you're doing anything through VR, use the Astral Attributes table to determine your "physical" attributes for linked skills. That should more than make up for not having a control rig

There is now a House Rules section to the Wiki. There are a few minor nerfs (mostly to hacker and social adepts), but most of the rest are boosts. Drug prices will go up there shortly are up.

Name Ideas:

PA Sprawlers
PAGers (Puyallup Auburn Gangers)
418 Slicers

No more time...anyone have an opinion on using either "418" (the highway) or "PA" (Puyallup/Auburn) in the name?


Color Ideas:

Green & Grey
Anything & Grey

How about Demon Sumners or anything else that plays with the similarity between Sumner and summoner.

I´d like gray and black (I know there is some other gang in seattle, with that colors, but I think most combinations are allready used, possibly ewcept pink & light blue (though there might be some gang in Tarislar with this ).

The Slicers sounds cool, and the green/grey could maybe be camo army pants for example.

So how about faded black & stained white (In other words, dark and light gray)

Knives would definatly be into a gang called the "Slicers"
I do think the play on words with Sumners is a good one too.

As for colors, its somethign we have to wears, so pink and light blue are right out.


If we're the slicers (even though the name comes from the hughway that slices through the two parts of town, right?) I think a deep blood red would be a good color. Possibly with some symbolism to blood - like the ammount of red you wear represent how many fights you've been in (gunfights or fistfights, or whatever)... or how many lives you've taken or something.

I like grey, but it seems a ltitle too bland. Course, if our gang isn't tryign to make any waves, and lives on the border of two worlds, so to speak, I think its one of hte best colors we coudl pick.

Two other questions for TinkerGnome.

Can motorcycles be rigged or droned? I assume they can be droned (internal gyros or something to stay up), but having a rigger "go slack" on a motorcycle has always seemed like a bad idea to me, unless he straps himself to it...

Secondly, you mentioned GMs descresion about group lifestyle. I set aside 2000 nuyen for a low lifestyle, but I'd much rather live a low or squatter lifestyle with several other gang members and split the costs... (+10% per extra occupant)... if we're sticking together for survival, that makes more sense than if we all have our own apartments around the neighborhood to go back to.

I bought "squatter", but I was thinkning that any other squatter gang members could all be squatting in the same building.

Would be like our gang house....have a common room, back room, etc.

I´m definitly for a group lifestyle, too. Though we could allso put that up later on, since the gang exists only one month or so, it wouldn´t be to fare fetchet to not have a group-lifestyle yet!

I allso like BlackHat´s ideas about the colors, maybe we can combine them somehow.
What about gray and green
with gray for the stated reasons and green as a symbol for blood (and indicating combat experiance), only red is so common among gangs (maybe the clishéd black-red combo is used by our rivaly).

I´d allso like to combine the sumner and slicer idea somehow (only slice sumners sounds silly).

I think of the name "slicers" as being multi purpose and standing for many of our members' use of blades, our location, and the fact that many members like to race.

The name can mean different stuff to different people and at different times.

@ Frank
Maybe he baged his father for the implants, but he was just too young (in his parents opinion anyway), so they provided him with a sham-operation and a cosmetic fake-dj. Of cause, they would not let him use it and rig a racing vehicle without a helmet (secretly including standart trodes), wirreless use would allso be to dangerous with all those misceveous hackers on every corner, so they blocked it. So, he thinks, he´s got the ware and can only interface because of it, while in reallity, hes a TM.