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HeySparky
I like Crash better than Crashers too.

And 410 Railers without the Rapid.


And, not only do I have tattooing as an interest, I have a kit to give them and a fake license. biggrin.gif
Wounded Ronin
Heh, I'm just imagining a bunch of stoned 13 year olds trying to tattoo each other. Everyone ends up with, like, demented stick figures and mispelled words that are mispelled differently each time.
Fresno Bob
"Nice tattoo... but why are you so into satin?"
"... It says 'Satan'"
"... You don't win many spelling bees, do you?"
Wounded Ronin
"I never knew that you were such a diehard vegetarian. You mean you wouldn't eat real meat even if you got the chance?"

"What the frag you talkin' bout?"

"Well, it says 'HAIL SEITAN' on your inner thigh..."


EDIT:

[insert jokes about inner thighs rejecting real meat here]
Rokur
I like "410 Crash" sounds like a strong gang name.

I also like the area that has been the most recent model.

Also, a note for TG - thanx to a gracious gang member, It was noted that there was a mistake on my Char sheet, I had 1 item over rating 6 and I am awakened frown.gif Not to worry though, I will have Auran re-edited and if u want, i can let u re-review my char. No major changes though.
WinterRat1
Question: How did the gang get formed, and what caused us all to join up? If the gang is only about 1 month old, it's not only possible, it's extremely probable that most of the characters had ties to each other before signing up.

What chain of events caused the formation of the gang and induced everyone to sign on board? I would imagine the motivations would be quite varied, and how and why the gang was formed will probably be extremely important in defining our relationships to the gang, one another, and other gangs.
Rokur
Ok edited Auran update notes:
- deleted demolitions for 8 bp
- converted 8 bp into 10k nuyen
- Sold Fake Sin for 1k
- Sold Headjammer for 1k
- Sold Chameleon Suit :'( for 8k

With 20k nuyen
- Bought a limo! w00t, w00t. Now to Con myself a chaffeur for the evening.
Mister Juan
Just posted up my character on the Wiki; name's Felix, and he need some sort of nickname. So, if you guys have any idea, I'd love to hear them wink.gif

I just think it'd be funnier if the other gang members picked a nickname for him.

Also I've got two things to ask:

Vegas: Is it alright with you if Felix has the biggest crush ever on Halo? I think the chemistry could be hilarious since he's a rather gullible kid.

Silo: Would you mind if Felix really liked JJ, to a point where he almost sees him as a role model. That would mean that Felix would have a tendency to follow JJ around, a lot wink.gif
HeySparky
Nickname: Tag

Felix thinks it's about spray painting.
WinterRat1
Whew. I had some serious writer's block all week and I could not come up with anything remotely satisfying. Background is not quite a total mess (I prefer to think of it as a work in progress) smile.gif but it's almost 2am and I have to work for another 12+ hours tomorrow...again... frown.gif I'll work on it further and flesh out the details, particularly ironing out the inconsistencies and further defining Shade's internal struggles.

Still, I was on a roll tonight, and when you're on a writing roll, especially after being whacked with writer's block for over a week, you run with it.

I took a page out of Mister Juan's book and included Shade's thoughts on the other characters (at least for now, until I have a chance to work on his background in more depth).

I think it was a fantastic idea, as a gang is at its core, a social group, and the better our characters relationships with each other are defined and played out, the better I think the campaign will be. I'm excited to see how it plays out.

Couple quick things regarding his thoughts on other characters:

1. I was whipping through the backgrounds, so I mostly tried to have his thoughts based on my impressions of their personalities and behavior. If any of his thoughts are based on knowledge he shouldn't have, let me know and I'll edit accordingly.

2. Please give your thoughts on Shade's relationships with your characters. Of course collaboration is welcomed!

3. Any other comments, criticisms, thoughts, etc are also greatly appreciated!

Stephen 'Shade' Wu:

[ Spoiler ]
WinterRat1
BTW, I strongly encourage everyone else to write a 'what my character thinks of the others' section like Mister Juan. Even a sentence or two adds a lot of depth and realism to the intercharacter relationships.

It REALLY helped me get into the mentality of a ganger and more importantly, made everyone else's characters come alive in my head. After writing all that, the gang really came alive in my head and feels more like a bunch of people and less like just characters.
bladepoet
Heya,

I have added knowing Halo, Thyn and Steel:

Relation to other gangers:

0day feels a bond with Thyn, bot of them feel out of place and both of them are seeking more nuyen to become what they conceive as the ultimate goal in life, becoming the best in their respective technical fields

He also knows steel, having dealt with him in regard to drugs and also their common love of tech.

Lastly, he has also done a favour or two for Halo, who just seems to be able to get from 0day what she wants whenever she wants.

This should tie me into the gang smile.gif

cheers

bladepoet
Silo
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
BTW, I strongly encourage everyone else to write a 'what my character thinks of the others' section like Mister Juan. Even a sentence or two adds a lot of depth and realism to the intercharacter relationships.

It REALLY helped me get into the mentality of a ganger and more importantly, made everyone else's characters come alive in my head. After writing all that, the gang really came alive in my head and feels more like a bunch of people and less like just characters.

WR, that is what this page is for.

There are varying degrees of how we are all putting info in to it, but the basic premise is to list out how you know everyone else.

Tao-Fighter's paragraph is a great example. He is hooked in to several of the gang members.

Putting the same type of info on your personal page is fine, but this allows us to have it all in a single area for quick reference. Perhaps we could use this page for the quick and dirty versions and have more detail on our personal pages.
Silo
QUOTE (Mister Juan)
Silo: Would you mind if Felix really liked JJ, to a point where he almost sees him as a role model. That would mean that Felix would have a tendency to follow JJ around, a lot wink.gif

Sounds good to me.
nick012000
Updated Neo's page with a physical description and his attitude towards the others that have put their sheets on the wiki.
Silo
I started the "members" page by alphabetically listing everyone. I am not sure what information TinkerGnome intended to go there, so I haven't put anything down yet.

I see it as a place for a short (think phrase, not paragraph) description of each member, a quick listing of what they can do, and as a place to put any special gang responsibilities, such as "second in command" etc.

example:

JJ - In Breif: fun loving miscreant | Specialties: B&E, auto theft, muscle | Gang Responsibilities: not established.

Thoughts?
TinkerGnome
Brass Knuckles: (Str/2+1)P sounds fine to me. Comes out the same as aluminum bone lacing, which makes sense. Cost of 50 nuyen.gif also sounds fair.
WinterRat1
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WR, that is what this page is for.

There are varying degrees of how we are all putting info in to it, but the basic premise is to list out how you know everyone else.

Tao-Fighter's paragraph is a great example. He is hooked in to several of the gang members.

Putting the same type of info on your personal page is fine, but this allows us to have it all in a single area for quick reference. Perhaps we could use this page for the quick and dirty versions and have more detail on our personal pages.


Silo - I did notice that page, but I felt that the focus of that page was more about how we know each other and are all connected, whereas my suggestion was focused on what each character thinks and feels about the others.

When I get the chance, I will note Shade's links to everyone else on that page. My character sheet will be up on the wiki eventually, I am quite incompetent with computers and I haven't had time to figure out the formatting of wiki, so I sent TG my sheet and info via email.

TG - In case I didn't mention it in the email (can't remember if I specified this), I'm waiting on your suggestions before spending my last few BP and nuyen to finalize my character.

Thanee - I'm considering having Shade have bit of a thing for Raven. Do you have any thoughts on starting the game with them dating, her being totally unaware of his (possible) attraction to her, or being at any point in between the two extremes?
Silo
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
Silo - I did notice that page, but I felt that the focus of that page was more about how we know each other and are all connected, whereas my suggestion was focused on what each character thinks and feels about the others.

Okie dokie. I see the difference now.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
BTW, I strongly encourage everyone else to write a 'what my character thinks of the others' section like Mister Juan. Even a sentence or two adds a lot of depth and realism to the intercharacter relationships.

It REALLY helped me get into the mentality of a ganger and more importantly, made everyone else's characters come alive in my head. After writing all that, the gang really came alive in my head and feels more like a bunch of people and less like just characters.

Second that! I intended to write up something like this in the background storry or peoples section, but haven´t had time yet. Now I´ll probbably ad it as a seperate feature from the NPC descriptions.

Very niche flavour WR, I definitly like that.
Vegas
QUOTE (Mister Juan)
Just posted up my character on the Wiki; name's Felix, and he need some sort of nickname. So, if you guys have any idea, I'd love to hear them wink.gif

Vegas: Is it alright with you if Felix has the biggest crush ever on Halo? I think the chemistry could be hilarious since he's a rather gullible kid.

This is totally fine by me biggrin.gif Should definitely be amusing.

I've gotta put up her "Relations" to people and the area and her "motivations" for joining up today if I can make the time. I've got like 15 minutes right now and 21490284091284092 things to do nyahnyah.gif
MK Ultra
@ TinkerGnome and WinterRat
TF´s got Alcohol as an uncommon allergy, Shade has it as a common allergy. Which one does count?
TinkerGnome
I guess the question is what kind of alcohol. Do you mean drinky drinky alcohol or the stuff used to sterilize things? The former is uncommon (at least, it counts as uncommon since you really don't have to do much to avoid it) and the later is common (God help you if you need first aid without telling your doc about it).
WinterRat1
TG - Noticed an error on my sheet you posted. Currently, Shade has no contacts. Those other contacts are from a different character I'm updating, and I simply forgot to delete them, because I was using the same template. In your review, ignore those contacts please.

And I meant drinky drinky alcohol. I will make the change to uncommon, and probably bump up the severity to moderate to compensate.
Mister Juan
So, when are we voting on a gang name? nyahnyah.gif
Silo
I think we need to hammer down the specific starting turf first.

Anyone that hasn't voted, you can do so here.
Mister Juan
I thought it might interest someone:


Gang Overview as of today
Total members: 16

Metatype
Human: 50%
Dwarf: 6.25%
Elf: 18.75
Ork: 6.25 %
Troll: 18.75%

Gender
Male: 75%
Female: 25%


TinkerGnome
Better vote soon or I'll just pick one wink.gif

Also, it's going to be late afternoon on a day late in April when the game starts. Pick one of the following locations:

Your gang's primary hideout
The Stuffer Shack
The Fun Zoe
Other (describe when you pick it).

No more than 5 people in one spot to start, first come first served.

Not all of these are going to see action, some may just get to start with character development.
Silo
The Fun Zoe for JJ.
bladepoet
Stuffer Shack for 0day smile.gif


Thanks

bladepoet
DireRadiant
Jun's Garage - China Doll
HeySparky
Jun's Garage - Jun.

Hiya cutie. smile.gif
WinterRat1
Gang's Primary Hideout - Shade

Sidenote: This weekend I actually have some reasonable free time, so I'll try to make some comments on the geographic and demographic features of our turf, especially significant locations and the like.

Also TG, couple questions:

1. How many people are going to be in our gang besides us?

2. Will you be explaining the current political situation to us, both in the gang and with the surrounding gangs? Or is that something we'll have to find out as we go, since our gang is only 1 month old?

3. Will you be determining how the gang was started, or is that something we need to do?

4. When is our anticipated start date?
Mister Juan
The Fun Zoe for Felix.
Yep, he's just following JJ nyahnyah.gif
TinkerGnome
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
1. How many people are going to be in our gang besides us?

Let's call it a round 10 others. One of them is the leader. Oh, details on him now:

Slam is an ork that challenged for leadership of a neighboring gang and failed. Afterward, they booted him out and he managed to get to the new gang's area and set up shop. A gang war between two of the gangs on either side of the neighborhood had formed a few people into a small defensive gang and Slam simply took that over and changed its purpose. It'd also weakened said gangs to the point where Slam could carve out a chunk of their turf for himself. After he was established, he started recruiting. He wants to get some revenge on his old crew and to make a comfortable life for himself and his.

Slam is a big ork, with one arm replaced with a hulking slam of cybertech. He's had the knuckles reinforced and edged and there is an intergral shotgun.

QUOTE
2. Will you be explaining the current political situation to us, both in the gang and with the surrounding gangs? Or is that something we'll have to find out as we go, since our gang is only 1 month old?


You'll know this pretty well once the game starts fully. Once the territory of your gang is finalized, then I can name and create the other gangs. Expect there two be two larger gangs (40-50 members) that have just had a war. Expect at least two other nearby gangs, though they will be smaller.

QUOTE
3. Will you be determining how the gang was started, or is that something we need to do?


See above. How each person in the group got into the gang is a different question and up to you guys.

QUOTE
4. When is our anticipated start date?


I want to put up the IC thread by Friday. No action till next week, though, as we finish stuff up.
Mister Juan
Does that mean we can start RPing friday? biggrin.gif
DireRadiant
QUOTE (Mister Juan)
Does that mean we can start RPing friday? biggrin.gif

You aren't RPing already?
TinkerGnome
Yep.
HeySparky
So Slam is an outsider? I know some of us are from the neighborhood (even if they were gone for a while).

What sort of leader is he?
WinterRat1
Who are his lieutenants? Are any of the PCs filling any important roles in the gang other than rank and file members?
Silo
He's an ork and he took over?

I gotta say...not sure if I like the guy so far.

I don't think JJ would be following this guy without some good reason. Trusting a recently implanted guy that basically bullied his way in....

The only reason I mention the ork thing, is that there are less orks in our gang than any other race. Just surprises me is all, I guess.
HeySparky
Right on, Silo. Though, you know... we don't have to take that bullying lying down. smokin.gif
Mister Juan
We haven't even started and we're already thinking about overthrowing him
This is BAD nyahnyah.gif
Tashio
I'd take gang hideout assuming its the apartment block (character will be finished friday, if I don't have any access from the hotel tomorrow.)
WinterRat1
Are we members of the old gang that Slam took over, or are we the new recruits he picked up after he took over? Or is it our choice?
TinkerGnome
Your choice on when and how you joined.

You're right on the race. Make him human instead. He is an "outsider" as it were, but he's only from a few streets away, so not THAT outside.

His joining up with the defending group helped them keep alive while the gang war was going on. There is a benefit to it, after all.

He's a generally nice guy, though he doesn't like it when folks question his orders. Right now joining the gang is as simple as hanging out for a couple of weeks and putting on the colors. Slam has been coordinating a few smuggling jobs for the gang, which have netted some okay payoffs. Mostly the jobs are just handoffs between a gang farther out and a gang closer in to downtown, but they've been profitable.
Wounded Ronin
OK, this is MK's character sheet for me.

In light of subsequent discussion I think that we need to add meatpuppet gear and maybe some skillwires, and a few guns.

Lastly, the paranoid Euro Wars vet who trades guns for beer should probably be a group contact.

Once those details get ironed out I guess I'm ready to post to the Wiki.

I need to think of a good character name too but the problem is that I don't know any Indonesian names. Perhaps I could just stick with the UCAS style handle; then I need a good handle for a spastic gun person. Hmm, how about Killer Rabbit? Or Toy Robot?

Toy Robot could be pretty badass; it's a Kentucky Fried Movie reference.

Goon A: "A TOY ROBOT!!" *dives through window to escape*
Goon B: "A TOY ROBOT!" *pauses* "A toy robot?"
Toy Robot: "EAT LEAD, SUCKER!" *flashes lights and makes machine gun noise*
Goon B: *dies with blood exploding from his chest*

See, the characer in this case used to be a toy robot (i.e. meat puppet) but now has all the guns that will be used spasmodically on you. So it's kind of reminding me of the Toy Robot from the Kentucky Fried Movie.

What do you guys think?




QUOTE

294 BP spent, 6 left for gear and contacts

Attributes 220 BP
Body 3
Agility 5
Reaction 5
Strength 1
Charisma 5
Intuition 5
Logic 1
Willpower 1
Edge 6

Skills: 74 BP
Unarmed Combat 1
Blades 4
Perception 1
Armory 1
Demolitions 3
Athletics Group 1
Firearms Group 1
Stealth Group 1
Outdoores Group 1

Knowledge Skills (0 BP, 18 points free)
Indonesian N
English 2
Mandarin 2
Japanese 2

Booby traps 4
Chemistry (Improvised Explosives) 3 (+2)
Communist ideology 1
Cooking (Asian) 1 (+2)
Japanese culture 1
Seattle gangs 1
Corporate security procedures 1

Qualities: 0 BP
Homeground (free)

6 Points left for gear and contacts

Contacts: X BP
I´d sugest taking both as group contacts, I especially like the Merc as a cheap arms dealer
Silo
Concerning Slam: the couple of streets over logic makes sense to me.

I'll come up with a reason why and how I joined. Something specific about him...cuz I do want to like him.

Thanee
Str 1 and Close Combat doesn't mix well. wink.gif


I have already included roughly why and how Raven has joined the gang, I think it was only a short while ago, so she is a fairly new recruit.

Bye
Thanee
Rokur
I'd like to start in the gang hideout, would you want what gear we got on?
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