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sabs
QUOTE (J. Packer @ Jan 24 2011, 09:17 PM) *
You and me both, pal. I thought, at first, he wanted her to hang up on him!


Uh, He did
J. Packer
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 24 2011, 02:18 PM) *
Uh, He did

Well, there you go then. I've given you the opportunity to end the conversation gracefully.

It was the "cold calls a specialty" line that got me confused.
sabs
btw, I'm not a native speaker.. what does "off-guard" mean?
sabs
QUOTE (J. Packer @ Jan 24 2011, 09:19 PM) *
Well, there you go then. I've given you the opportunity to end the conversation gracefully.

It was the "cold calls a specialty" line that got me confused.


they are smile.gif and he knows how not to do them too smile.gif
Which is what he was going for there.
Thanee
not to be prepared for something

Bye
Thanee
J. Packer
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 24 2011, 02:20 PM) *
btw, I'm not a native speaker.. what does "off-guard" mean?

In this case - unprepared, unsure of how to handle the situation, not sure she's not being made fun of or being tricked with a fake call from a friend or something like that.
Faraday
Wow, looks like Group 2 is kinda falling apart (I peeked at their OOC, so I only know about the bickering. Not the context.)

Makes me realize that while we have a strange kind of leadership setup. AFAIK, Lyle is leading in a general sense, while Warden has made quicker, more on-the-fly combat calls. Guess it makes sense. question.gif
sabs
Rick is a Manager wink.gif

He manages.. that also means, he lets people do what they're good at.
And he's not really thinking of himself as a Leader.. He's not even trying to be the leader.

He's just being him.
Faraday
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 24 2011, 03:28 PM) *
Rick is a Manager wink.gif

He manages.. that also means, he lets people do what they're good at.
And he's not really thinking of himself as a Leader.. He's not even trying to be the leader.

^ Unwitting Team Manager?
< Unwitting team Sergeant?
sabs
Yeah, perhaps.. but Ghost is no shy flower, and Cruiser smile.gif is well.. Cruiser.. he's still so hung up about Knight Errant, he can't see straight.

Von is an unknown quantity.

So we're still fleshing out our mechanics. Really.. Rick is a brains type. He makes leaps of logic, because he's got literally hardware that dos processing for him and spits out answers and stuff.

He's really not equiped to be a combat leader. He doesn't have combat paralysis, but he does have combat inexperience.
Faraday
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 24 2011, 03:52 PM) *
Yeah, perhaps.. but Ghost is no shy flower, and Cruiser smile.gif is well.. Cruiser.. he's still so hung up about Knight Errant, he can't see straight.

Von is an unknown quantity.

So we're still fleshing out our mechanics. Really.. Rick is a brains type. He makes leaps of logic, because he's got literally hardware that dos processing for him and spits out answers and stuff.

He's really not equiped to be a combat leader. He doesn't have combat paralysis, but he does have combat inexperience.

You're probably right. Warden has a pretty good brain but it's focused on combat and material concepts (hence the lack of actual matrix skills). I get the feeling that coming from a background of Employer abandonment should have effects on personality that I'm not putting into the role play, but I'm just not clear on it. I didn't put a lot of thought into Warden's psychology. :x
Von
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 24 2011, 06:52 PM) *
Yeah, perhaps.. but Ghost is no shy flower, and Cruiser smile.gif is well.. Cruiser.. he's still so hung up about Knight Errant, he can't see straight.

Von is an unknown quantity.

So we're still fleshing out our mechanics. Really.. Rick is a brains type. He makes leaps of logic, because he's got literally hardware that dos processing for him and spits out answers and stuff.

He's really not equiped to be a combat leader. He doesn't have combat paralysis, but he does have combat inexperience.


My quantity is 1! An unknown entity, perhaps biggrin.gif
Faraday
So instead of working, I overclocked my new Sandy Bridge...She's up to 4.8 ghz and climbing. biggrin.gif
Thanee
Well, at least it will keep her warm during the winter, right? wink.gif

Bye
Thanee
Faraday
QUOTE (Thanee @ Jan 24 2011, 10:17 PM) *
Well, at least it will keep her warm during the winter, right? wink.gif

Bye
Thanee

Especially since it heats up to 70 celsius inside. >_>

EDIT: Okay, so I think 4.8 ghz is my comfortable ceiling. 5.0+ makes things too hot (an is only stable at dangerous voltage levels). Anyway, back to shadowrun!
Thanee
I'm going to get a Sandy Bridge system during the next months as well. My old computer is slowly falling apart. wink.gif

Did you get the i5-2500K or the i7-2600K?

Bye
Thanee
Faraday
QUOTE (Thanee @ Jan 25 2011, 12:34 AM) *
I'm going to get a Sandy Bridge system during the next months as well. My old computer is slowly falling apart. wink.gif

Did you get the i5-2500K or the i7-2600K?

Bye
Thanee

2500k. It comes with a dinky cooler though, so if you plan on overclocking, (and with a k series, it's fairly clear you intend to) you should get a good air cooler. I use a corsair a70 myself.
Thanee
Nah, I do not OC myself. I was listing those in my question, because you quite obviously did. wink.gif

But I never take the standard coolers. Always better to have something good there.

I do not build those machines myself, though. It doesn't cost much to get a professionally built machine with exactly the parts you want.

Bye
Thanee
J. Packer
I had no idea you were all a bunch of hardware hackers. I'm a DBA by day, and have lost most of my PC building and troubleshooting chops.
Faraday
QUOTE (Thanee @ Jan 25 2011, 05:52 AM) *
Nah, I do not OC myself. I was listing those in my question, because you quite obviously did. wink.gif

But I never take the standard coolers. Always better to have something good there.
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I do not build those machines myself, though. It doesn't cost much to get a professionally built machine with exactly the parts you want
If you're not Overclocking it and/or not having it overclocked, don't bother getting a k series. It is strictly for overclockers as it just gives you an unlocked multiplier.

I play around with overclocking because I don't do it for a living. If I was a DBA or some other admin, I'd be fraking sick of dealing with computers all day. To be honest J, overclocking hardware now is as easy as buying the "unlocked" versions of your CPU. Boosting RAM, GPU, and even motherboard frequencies often give little advantage compared to the days of yore. Mostly they just destabilize the system.

CPUs are the last bastion of practical overclocking and unlike the old days, you can't just take a pencil and short a couple pins on your CPU to unlock your multi, gotta pay the piper $20.
Faraday
In case you're wondering, Sabs, Warden is discretely offering to put hot sim on your 'link. It'd be that switch that "goes to 11"

Not sure Rick would realize the dangers, but it WOULD let you get +2 DP to everything while it's running. wink.gif
sabs
I've been playing Deckers since before you knew what Shadowrun was wink.gif
I figured you were offering something like that. He would know about the dangers. Rick used to sell Cyberware to rich idiots smile.gif

If you've ever seen Repomen? Think of one of the Sales guys in the front office.
J. Packer
QUOTE (Faraday @ Jan 25 2011, 07:31 AM) *
If you're not Overclocking it and/or not having it overclocked, don't bother getting a k series. It is strictly for overclockers as it just gives you an unlocked multiplier.

I play around with overclocking because I don't do it for a living. If I was a DBA or some other admin, I'd be fraking sick of dealing with computers all day. To be honest J, overclocking hardware now is as easy as buying the "unlocked" versions of your CPU. Boosting RAM, GPU, and even motherboard frequencies often give little advantage compared to the days of yore. Mostly they just destabilize the system.

CPUs are the last bastion of practical overclocking and unlike the old days, you can't just take a pencil and short a couple pins on your CPU to unlock your multi, gotta pay the piper $20.


Long gone are the days of the Celeron 300A, a processor that, with the right board, could be overclocked nearly 100%... Those were the days.
J. Packer
Oh, and Sweet Merciful Crap, dude. 9 hits on the data search. Lemme just forward you the PDF of the mission...

I'll have an IC post up shortly.
Faraday
I've seen Repo Man and Repo! The Genetic Opera, but no, I have yet to see Repomen.

QUOTE (J. Packer @ Jan 25 2011, 07:29 AM) *
Long gone are the days of the Celeron 300A, a processor that, with the right board, could be overclocked nearly 100%... Those were the days.
... Well I dunno about you, but I'd say getting 5.0 ghz out of a 3.3ghz CPU is pretty good.
sabs
That is very sweet over clocking.

I'm a hardware guy myself. I build/maintain pcs and servers for my company.
I don't like to overclock though, because I'm poor and I tend to keep my pc's for a very long time.
Thanee
QUOTE (J. Packer @ Jan 25 2011, 04:30 PM) *
Oh, and Sweet Merciful Crap, dude. 9 hits on the data search.


And only 6s as well. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Faraday @ Jan 25 2011, 03:31 PM) *
If you're not Overclocking it and/or not having it overclocked, don't bother getting a k series. It is strictly for overclockers as it just gives you an unlocked multiplier.


The Ks also have the more sophisticated GPU units, I think.

My computers are usually fast enough, so I do not really see anything useful in overclocking and thus probably shortening the lifetime of the hardware.

Bye
Thanee
Faraday
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 25 2011, 07:52 AM) *
That is very sweet over clocking.

I'm a hardware guy myself. I build/maintain pcs and servers for my company.
I don't like to overclock though, because I'm poor and I tend to keep my pc's for a very long time.
It's especially nice on AIR COOLING. I myself seem pretty tapped out at 4.8. Not willing to put in the overvolt needed to run 5+ghz constantly.

I actually have overclocked because I'm a cheap bastard but want to have good times performance. So far, I have yet to have a CPU crap out on me. >.>
QUOTE (Thanee @ Jan 25 2011, 07:57 AM) *
The Ks also have the more sophisticated GPU units, I think.
Nope. They're exactly the same in all ways when compared to their non-k counterparts with the same part number. Except the multiplier.

EDIT: Huh, well I guess they do have a better integrated GPU on the chip, weird. Not that it makes much difference if you use a discrete graphics card...
And if you don't use a discrete graphics card, you probably won't need the added graphics performance. But if you DO want better graphics performance, then why are you relying on a (relatively) crappy integrated GPU?
J. Packer
Not sure if we RPed it, but we'll say that if it didn't get written in, Hafiz gives Ghost the down payment - a 5K credstick - before you depart.
J. Packer
QUOTE (Faraday @ Jan 25 2011, 08:59 AM) *
EDIT: Huh, well I guess they do have a better integrated GPU on the chip, weird. Not that it makes much difference if you use a discrete graphics card...
And if you don't use a discrete graphics card, you probably won't need the added graphics performance. But if you DO want better graphics performance, then why are you relying on a (relatively) crappy integrated GPU?

Are there any video drivers smart enough to offload some of the basic processing to the on-chip GPU to reduce the load on the heavy gear?
Faraday
QUOTE (J. Packer @ Jan 25 2011, 08:30 AM) *
Are there any video drivers smart enough to offload some of the basic processing to the on-chip GPU to reduce the load on the heavy gear?

The power of the on-die GPU of the sandy bridge isn't nearly worth the effort to do that.

You'd probably LOSE performance from it making requests on the processor cache.
Thanee
QUOTE (Faraday @ Jan 25 2011, 04:59 PM) *
I actually have overclocked because I'm a cheap bastard but want to have good times performance.


Heh, well an i5-2500K doesn't exactly classify as "cheap". wink.gif

It's not super-expensive, but it's definitely towards the higher end.

QUOTE
Huh, well I guess they do have a better integrated GPU on the chip, weird. Not that it makes much difference if you use a discrete graphics card...
And if you don't use a discrete graphics card, you probably won't need the added graphics performance. But if you DO want better graphics performance, then why are you relying on a (relatively) crappy integrated GPU?


Well... it probably won't matter, since I am likely using the P67, and therefore won't be able to access the GPU, anyways. wink.gif

But generally, I would like the integrated GPU as a backup... I don't usually have spare gfx cards lying around.

Just recently I had my gfx die and was glad that my motherboard had onboard gfx (a cheap ASRock replacement for the ASUS I had before, but since the current computer was up for a full replacement this year, anyways, I only got something cheap to replace it for the time being; and the ASRock usually have onboard gfx), so I could at least use the PC until the gfx was replaced.

That is also the reason why I was looking at this option at all, but the H67 has too many disadvantages over the P67 otherwise, so it really doesn't seem to be worth it.

The integrated GPU in the Sandy Bridge CPUs might not have the power of a GeForce or Radeon, but from what I have read, it will even be ok to run some games (much better than onboard gfx usually are, which can only be used for desktop applications).

Bye
Thanee
Faraday
QUOTE (Thanee @ Jan 25 2011, 08:50 AM) *
Heh, well an i5-2500K doesn't exactly classify as "cheap". wink.gif

It's not super-expensive, but it's definitely towards the higher end.
>.>
It was a splurge, I admit. Last CPU/mobo purchase cost less than this new CPU alone. embarrassed.gif
Von
JP, is the timestamp for that last post supposed to be at The Hardpan?
J. Packer
QUOTE (Von @ Jan 25 2011, 12:02 PM) *
JP, is the timestamp for that last post supposed to be at The Hardpan?

Indeed it is. We've gone all wobbly. I advanced the time for the trip to the Hardpan from a prior post, and it's been inconsistently followed since. smile.gif
sabs
I have edited my post

I think I can salvage the situation, but I need Warden to let me know what the situation /is/
smile.gif
sabs
Thanee, I'm thinking of going in as a Johnson.

But I'm waiting to here from you as to suggestions, including if you think you going in is a better move.
Von
Doooo ittt
Thanee
Yep, that seems like a good idea to get into contact with them.

Don't have anything better to offer right now. smile.gif


Before we are getting there, Ghost will take the time to put up her "chinese girl" disguise.

0 hits ... one more try! biggrin.gif

1 hit ... not perfect, but at least you won't be able to see how she normally looks. smile.gif

Bye
Thanee
sabs
I'm stalled on Faraday getting back to us.
I don't want to just assume what he does inside the Bar.

I'm hoping he'll contact us and let us know what's up.. and we can go from there smile.gif
But who knows.
J. Packer
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 25 2011, 01:46 PM) *
I'm stalled on Faraday getting back to us.
I don't want to just assume what he does inside the Bar.

I'm hoping he'll contact us and let us know what's up.. and we can go from there smile.gif
But who knows.

Hell, man, it's PbP. We're lucky we make the good time that we do. smile.gif
sabs
This was not a complaint smile.gif

I was just letting the others know that we are waiting for Faraday, and to some extent Ish smile.gif


Isinghar
Sorry for the vanishing act! Have caught up on some sleep and ready to post! IC coming up next!
Faraday
Sorry on disappearing when I was rather important on that one. I had to finally go to bed. :V

IC post up though, hopefully I didn't piss off the natives.
sabs
I wish you'd not posted that last one before I posted mine wink.gif
sabs
JP. I need a ruling.

Linguasofts are availability 2. Can I spend 1500 Nuyen and download one from an online Matrix Store?
This would give me a rating 3 Dakota Linguasoft. Which combined with Mnemomir and Linguist, would give me 10 Dice Pool, for speaking Dakota.

This is the basic table for languages, the number is the threshhold:
Universal concept (hunger, fear, bodily functions) 1
Basic conversation (concerns of daily life) 1
Complex subject (special/limited interest topics) 2
Intricate subject (almost any technical subject) 3
Obscure subject (deeply technical/rare knowledge) 4

I have Matrix access, its availability 2, I could pause at the door and do it. Shouldn't take that long.
J. Packer
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 25 2011, 09:25 PM) *
JP. I need a ruling.

Linguasofts are availability 2. Can I spend 1500 Nuyen and download one from an online Matrix Store?
This would give me a rating 3 Dakota Linguasoft. Which combined with Mnemomir and Linguist, would give me 10 Dice Pool, for speaking Dakota.

This is the basic table for languages, the number is the threshhold:
Universal concept (hunger, fear, bodily functions) 1
Basic conversation (concerns of daily life) 1
Complex subject (special/limited interest topics) 2
Intricate subject (almost any technical subject) 3
Obscure subject (deeply technical/rare knowledge) 4

I have Matrix access, its availability 2, I could pause at the door and do it. Shouldn't take that long.


Y'know, I think I'm going to allow it. If it were today, and not 2072, 6th World, I'd say that Dakota was a bit of stretch to find just anywhere, but it's not today, is it.
sabs
Dakota isn't the Language of a Major WOrld nation smile.gif like it is in 2073 wink.gif
Faraday
Warden will be surprised when Lyle comes in speaking Dakota. >.>
J. Packer
QUOTE (sabs @ Jan 25 2011, 09:29 PM) *
Dakota isn't the Language of a Major WOrld nation smile.gif like it is in 2073 wink.gif


Is there anything official that says that it becomes obvious that you're using a soft to speak a language? I mean, stilted, cold, textbook perfect, perhaps?
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