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pbangarth
Thanks. The two can eat slowly and figure out what to ask a hearth spirit.
Koekepan
I assume that life is eating Bastard, rather than the other way around.
Bastard
Yes... sorry.

Feel free to npc me when i disappear. When life gets busy I forget to post. Then I get behind and have a lot of posts to read.

Just worked a bunch of days, nights, back to days in a row, then I was off for my wifes surgery cause she couldnt do anything for a few days. Also, lost power over the weekend for 30 hours, thanks to another crazy windstorm like the one that decided to fuck up my roof in December. ugh.

I will catch up tonight, and post tomorrow.

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EDIT - Not much to read... posting...
pbangarth
Hope your wife is improving.

My wife has the Gremlins Negative Quality. Sounds like you have something going against you, too.
Bastard
Minor surgery. But she cant do anything due to the pain and stitches afterwards. I told her to grow a pair. She said she would kick me in mine.
pbangarth
So, can we advance to sunset?
Koekepan
Sure, if Karmakaze doesn't have anything particular planned before then. Rock on.
Bastard
Do it.
Bastard
If I get behind on responding, feel free to NPC me for a few days. Been working a lot, and I hate my employer, so its been a rough go of it lately.
pbangarth
QUOTE (Bastard @ Mar 17 2023, 04:26 AM) *
If I get behind on responding, feel free to NPC me for a few days. Been working a lot, and I hate my employer, so its been a rough go of it lately.



"Hey, Karmakaze. I need about 10k nuyen to get that sustaining focus I want. Can you spot me till later? Really? Thanks, pal."
Bastard
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 24 2023, 12:27 PM) *
"Hey, Karmakaze. I need about 10k nuyen to get that sustaining focus I want. Can you spot me till later? Really? Thanks, pal."


"""Here you go!"""
Koekepan
GM's remark:

You're obviously pursuing a given line of questioning based on a specific theory of what happened.

Equally obviously, it's running into a dead end.

This is where you need to seriously consider that your theory of what happened doesn't match what happened. If intimidation were the story, or thugs subtly vandalising things, there's no doubt that your questions would have supported those hypotheses.
pbangarth
Oh, yeah. I get that. Been there. Done that. Ate the guide.

But Blue is six days into a whole new life. Read and understand academic texts? no problem. figure out street politics? Whu?

Even Blue, though, is getting the hint now. hopefully street-smart Karmakaze can redirect things or make suggestions that can twig Blue's idea machine.
Bastard
I am at a loss on this path as well. I think we need to head back to Karma's office and pour through all the data they got. I still have all of this to resolve:




QUOTE (Bastard @ Jan 16 2023, 01:24 PM) *
SKILLS
[*] 4 (6) Police Procedures / Seattle Lone Star
[*] 3 (5) Police Tactics / Seattle Lone Star
[*] 4 (4) Criminal Justice System
[*] 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
[*] 3 (3) Fences
[*] 3 (3) Security Companies
[*] 3 (3) Sprawl Life


DATA
[1] List of businesses that de-linked
[2] Records of city council contract discussions
[3] Criminal activity reports
[4] Known local criminals
[5] A screamsheet on each local council member
[6] Recent business openings and closures
[7] Personal description of Daisy and her last known undercover work


WHAT DOES KARMA KNOW?
Using memory as well as comlink-matrix to research, Karmakaze goes over the data pack.

[1] List of businesses that de-linked
RESEARCH: Do any of these companies have ties to criminal organizations?
SKILL: 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
ROLL: 4d6 = (2, 4, 1, 3) https://orokos.com/roll/965633
RESULT: 1 Success


[2] Records of city council contract discussions cross-referenced with [5] A screamsheet on each local council member
RESEARCH: Do any of these council discussions mention something that may have ties to criminal organizations? This will take some time to research
SKILL: 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
ROLL: 4d6 = (5, 2, 5, 2) https://orokos.com/roll/965634
RESULT: 2 Successes


[3] Criminal activity reports cross-referenced with [4] Known local criminals
RESEARCH: Do any of these reports or participants have ties to known criminal organizations?
SKILL: 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
ROLL: 4d6 = (1, 4, 5, 4) https://orokos.com/roll/965635
RESULT: 3 Successes


[4] Known local criminals
RESEARCH: Are any of these criminals known to Karmakaze?
SKILL: 4 (4) Criminal Justice System
ROLL: 4d6 = (3, 4, 4, 6) https://orokos.com/roll/965636
RESULT: 3 Successes


[5] A screamsheet on each local council member
RESEARCH: Do any of these council members have a record?
SKILL: 4 (4) Criminal Justice System
ROLL: 4d6 = (3, 1, 5, 6) https://orokos.com/roll/965637
RESULT: 2 Successes

RESEARCH: Do any of these council members have ties to criminal organizations? (Kind of a repeat of the second roll.)
SKILL: 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
ROLL: 4d6 = (5, 2, 1, 4) https://orokos.com/roll/965638
RESULT: 2 Successes


[6] Recent business openings and closures (Kind of a repeat of the first roll.)
RESEARCH: Do any of these businesses have links to criminal organizations?
SKILL: 2 (4) Criminal Organizations / Seattle
ROLL: 4d6 = (5, 3, 6, 1) https://orokos.com/roll/965639
RESULT: 2 Successes

RESEARCH: Do any of the employees, management or ownership (or previous) have criminal records? This will take some time to research
SKILL: 4 (4) Criminal Justice System
ROLL: 4d6 = (6, 2, 3, 3) https://orokos.com/roll/965640
RESULT: 1 Success


[7] Personal description of Daisy and her last known undercover work
RESEARCH: Does Daisy match anyone in the criminal database (maybe as part of her fake ID)? This will take some time to research
SKILL: 4 (4) Criminal Justice System
ROLL: 4d6 = (2, 4, 4, 1) https://orokos.com/roll/965641
RESULT: 2 Successes

RESEARCH: Does Daisy match any police officer that Karmakaze may have known?
SKILL: 4 (6) Police Procedures / Seattle Lone Star This is the closest skill I could manage, but it can be cross-referenced with who she knows is on the force, and who is missing from their staff pictures.
ROLL: 6d6 = (1, 3, 6, 6, 6, 5) https://orokos.com/roll/965642
RESULT: 4 Successes


This would be much easier if we had a picture of Daisy.

These are also the same questions I am going to pass onto a decker.
pbangarth
I've been following the 3rd edition Smuggler Campaign run by Kren Cooper described in the thread of the same name under "Shadowrun". I noticed in the post last week that one of the characters summoned and then Freed a spirit. I asked about the mechanics, as I thought one could not do it in the way described. His direct answer to me was also posted in This Week's Post for his readers to see.

I told him I would go with whatever my sneaky GM directs, but thanked him for some ideas. As I would have thought, spending karma was key to getting a favourable outcome.
pbangarth
Oh wow! John Wick 4. Over the top and crazy. If When you see it, especially you Koekepan who have played with Quick Willie, the scene around the Arc of Triumph was MADE for him!

As an aside, I once entered the traffic circle around the Arc of Triumph on bicycle ... in winter. Only after eight lanes of incensed Frenchmen tried to kill me did I notice the signs forbidding bicycles.
Bastard
I am hoping to go soon!
Koekepan
1) Not substantial links. Nothing that goes beyond happening to be in nominal turf of some group or another.

2) Yeah, kind of. Construction is a notoriously corrupt field in the enclave, so implicitly any discussion of zoning, construction, development is going to have some kind of street angle. On the other hand, nobody is stupid enough to bang the table for anybody in these kinds of discussions.

3) It does look as if a group called the Students of Justice has been getting reported pretty hard in the area. They're a weird group that came up from a bunch of ideologically-driven students, a few decades ago, who wanted to redistribute the wealth by direct action, but just ended up being an unusually self-righteous group of gangsters. However, they've always been second-tier, and maybe this recent rash of reports and arrests will curtail their activities. Their turf was always around Fremont, Green Lake and University Village and that's where a lot of the recent developments have been.

4) Nope. Not her old stomping grounds, as much. Indirect connections and criminal associates, sometimes - but mostly it says that this is street-level stupid.

5) Yeah, sure they have records. Mostly pro forma arrests for various protests and similar actions. Nothing disqualifying for politics. There are suspicions of everything from embezzlement to murder, but nothing on which a prosecutor would hang a hat.

6) Not as far as you can tell, beyond the most fleeting or peripheral. This doesn't preclude an unlisted organisation from being involved, and no sufficiently large group of people is squeaky-clean. The scariest is a delivery service run by a couple of aging ex-go-gangers, but that's almost just a legitimate form of earlier smuggling activities.

7) No, and no. However, Karmakaze is well aware that she has probably been arrested several times and the records scrupulously purged.

All this thinking does lead to a different train of thought:

If there is another big organisation behind all this activity, they are unlisted, and it's incredible that an underground group of any size or power would be that invisible to the authorities - which means that if there is an organisation it must be ostensibly legitimate. This would, if true, also explain the lack of other signs of criminal weirdness in the area.
Bastard
QUOTE (Koekepan @ Mar 28 2023, 11:54 AM) *
1) Not substantial links. Nothing that goes beyond happening to be in nominal turf of some group or another.

2) Yeah, kind of. Construction is a notoriously corrupt field in the enclave, so implicitly any discussion of zoning, construction, development is going to have some kind of street angle. On the other hand, nobody is stupid enough to bang the table for anybody in these kinds of discussions.

3) It does look as if a group called the Students of Justice has been getting reported pretty hard in the area. They're a weird group that came up from a bunch of ideologically-driven students, a few decades ago, who wanted to redistribute the wealth by direct action, but just ended up being an unusually self-righteous group of gangsters. However, they've always been second-tier, and maybe this recent rash of reports and arrests will curtail their activities. Their turf was always around Fremont, Green Lake and University Village and that's where a lot of the recent developments have been.

4) Nope. Not her old stomping grounds, as much. Indirect connections and criminal associates, sometimes - but mostly it says that this is street-level stupid.

5) Yeah, sure they have records. Mostly pro forma arrests for various protests and similar actions. Nothing disqualifying for politics. There are suspicions of everything from embezzlement to murder, but nothing on which a prosecutor would hang a hat.

6) Not as far as you can tell, beyond the most fleeting or peripheral. This doesn't preclude an unlisted organisation from being involved, and no sufficiently large group of people is squeaky-clean. The scariest is a delivery service run by a couple of aging ex-go-gangers, but that's almost just a legitimate form of earlier smuggling activities.

7) No, and no. However, Karmakaze is well aware that she has probably been arrested several times and the records scrupulously purged.

All this thinking does lead to a different train of thought:

If there is another big organisation behind all this activity, they are unlisted, and it's incredible that an underground group of any size or power would be that invisible to the authorities - which means that if there is an organisation it must be ostensibly legitimate. This would, if true, also explain the lack of other signs of criminal weirdness in the area.


I will reference these results after we have a chance to bring it in the IC.
Koekepan
The two hearth domains are distinct, and Blue is pretty sure that summoning Sweez didn't nuke the first spirit.
pbangarth
QUOTE (Koekepan @ Apr 4 2023, 09:30 AM) *
The two hearth domains are distinct, and Blue is pretty sure that summoning Sweez didn't nuke the first spirit.


Huh. I've been playing this game for over twenty years, and had not read that particular section of the rules carefully enough, until now.

Huh. Blue and I will have to wrap our heads around the possibilities.

I know, Koekepan, you like to throw a little colour into the appearance and manifestation of spirits. And I find that colour entertaining, too. So I'll wait till Sweez appears before I post IC.
Bastard
I had planned that they would be heading to Karma's pad, where all her work office is.

Was there a reason to change that plan?
pbangarth
The reason is I misunderstood and screwed up. Sorry.

We could just say KK went to her place after dropping B off. That would be the least disruptive rewrite.
Bastard
I figured they would stay together, since Karma is still acting as a body guard.

I can make it work if needed. Does Blue's place have a desk, pc and work area? Or maybe Blue just wants to pick up some items?
pbangarth
Well, kitchen table. And he has an Allegiance Sigma cyberterminal, and some basic software (see his character sheet), but he hasn't used it since the Mitsuhama raid for fear of it being traced. Why don't you have Karmakaze tell Blue that what he has is insufficient, and that they need to go to her place?

Blue would finish up his line of questioning with Sweez, and then they could head out.
Bastard
Okay...

I have to head back into work. If you want to add that into your next IC, if youre on before I return in the morning.
pbangarth
Will do.
pbangarth
Yes, I figure now Blue has started to get the gist of what Sweez could get up to. I can just imagine what such a being would do, thinking Blue's home is part of -its- turf. And the revellers upstairs! Oh dear.
Koekepan
He's just a kid, y'know?
pbangarth
QUOTE (Koekepan @ Apr 13 2023, 11:12 AM) *
He's just a kid, y'know?



Yeah, a kid who, if Blue summons at F6 to make it worthwhile, could become a powerful, ravening Trickster or Shadow spirit that considers Blue's apartment its personal playground and Blue its favourite chew-toy.
pbangarth
Well, shit. I wish I had caught on to that connection. Go ahead, bastard, have Karmakaze get the light bulb over her head. Blue will be impressed.
Bastard
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Apr 19 2023, 09:35 PM) *
Well, shit. I wish I had caught on to that connection. Go ahead, bastard, have Karmakaze get the light bulb over her head. Blue will be impressed.

I am missing it too.
pbangarth
If by that you mean you yourself don't get it, I think Koekepann is throwing us a bone, reminding us that both the missing undercover cop and the cameras were eyes for Lone Star. Possibly, therefore, they are related in being the target of the same source.

Bone ... red herring ... who knows?
pbangarth
Oh. Rereading Koekepan's last post, I see Karmakaze has caught on.
Bastard
I figured as much. Its a story, so I cheated and assumed they were connected off the jump. Chekhov's gun.

I thought you were referring to the spirit.


EDIT

I should get my scheduled days off this week... hopefully that'll give me time to IC post all that legwork we did months back! wobble.gif Sorry for being so flaky.
Bastard
Meant to get all that legwork posted this weekend, but I suck.
Koekepan
Just to be clear: "pouring" is for fluids. "poring" is looking very closely at something, as if to examine its pores.

I know, grammar nazi stuff, but it's going to drive me nuts. If you're pouring over your papers, I'm assuming that you're dousing them in coffee - or tequila, if things are going badly.
Koekepan
We can, at your option, fast-forward to the infodump to Billy, or if you have an interim agenda you can follow that up. Your choice.
pbangarth
I have nothing to do in between. Blue is deferring to Karmakaze's expertise in police and investigative matters.
Bastard
Does this ex-go-ganger delivery company have a name, an office location, and a contact?
pbangarth
I guess Blue and Karmakaze should develop a plan for time-of-day activities. Karmakaze will probably be more limited in her detective work at night, and blue will be more limited in his magic during the day.

I'll compose my IC post in the next day or so. Our newly born granddaughter is having some medical issues, so we are hopping around the region dealing with dogs and a worried 'big' sister.
Bastard
Good luck. Hope all goes well with the new grandy.
Koekepan
The delivery company has a location, and a contact. Its location is a building that looks like an old style multi-family dwelling, with the living quarters elevated on concrete stilts, and parking room beneath. It's now an office building with the delivery (Flying Eightball - Entering Another Dimension!) company as the major property holder and the vehicles parked beneath. There are a couple of other tenants - a lawyer, a commercial realtor and a matrix gaming company - but no other major attachments. They bill themselves as active and available 24/7.
Bastard
pbangarth - Lets make a list of what we got to do, and where we are heading. I've been distracted by work and life lately and maybe having a list will keep us on track.

Tonight - Download a copy of the LS internal bounties list, while Karma still has access
  • Give a dangerous criminal, but easy catch from downloaded list to Badger as repayment


Tonight - Contact my fixer, Jaxx - Possibly meet tonight
  • Any contacts or info related to area under investigation / Daisy?
  • The Students of Justice?
  • The "Delivery Company"?
  • Blue needed items?
  • 2 Credsticks from thugs at cafe
  • Did we already give him the truck left at the water front cafe?

Tonight - Contact my other contacts (Any contacts or info related to area under investigation / Daisy? The Students of Justice? The "Delivery Company"?)
  • Bradshaw (Bounty Hunter)
  • Badger (PI)
  • Booker (Client, police LT)
  • Give a dangerous criminal, but easy catch from downloaded list to Badger as repayment

Tonight - Forward our notes / questions to your decker
  • Any shady findings on businesses that de-linked from Booker's List
  • Location and background of local criminals from Booker's List
  • Any shady findings, background and location of council members from Booker's List
  • Any shady findings, background and owners info from recent business that opened and closed from Booker's List
  • Any security footage of someone matching the personal description of Daisy
  • Any information on a person matching the personal description of Daisy over the past week
  • Data on persons on LS internal bounties list
  • Comlink (from thugs at waterfront cafe)
  • "Several" datachips(from thugs at waterfront cafe)

Tomorrow - Meet with contacts


Koekepan
Sounds good. I'll let you figure out your list and next step before I next jump in.
Bastard
I will try to get a post up tonight.
Bastard
Been busy with work and life. Ive been having to cover additional shifts at work for the past couple months, but now we got people trained up and promoted and I can take some time off... After the next two weeks of covering vacations.

I got some calls to make... but what time is it in game? When did Blue leave and return?
pbangarth
That's a good question! How many hours of nighttime are left, Koekepan?
Koekepan
You have about three hours left. It took that long, after the research, to go out far enough, do your communications, and return.
pbangarth
Will be away from computer from 31 May 2023 till 10 June 2023. Access to internet will be limited at best. Carry on without me and try to keep my PC alive till I return! biggrin.gif
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