Games deserving of more:

-X-Com
-The Longest Journey (Dreamfall was stupidly short)
-Mech Warrior 2 (How the hell did they fuck this franchise up?)
-Privateer (Nobody has quite done it yet)
-Independence Wars II (Which is arguably a sequel to Privateer but stil, real physics? Truly 3D combat? More please.)
-Wing Commander
-Alpha Centauri

Funny I was thinking about it a few minutes ago.

I'd add :
- Elite (well we may get one, but it'll probably come out even after Duke Nukem Forever)
- The Outfoxies
- Covert Action (as mentioned in another thread)
- Syndicate
- Advent Rising (it was supposed to be a trilogy)

X-Wing

Privateer and X-wing fans should check out X3. This game has been slowly sucking the life out of me for the last 6 months

Simple,they took a good mech simulator style game and dumbed it down to a shoot'em up game for the console kiddies.

*Crawls on belly for forgiveness*

How... How could I forget the game that sucked away years of my childhood. X-Wing and Tie Fighter deserve better. DO YOU HEAR MY LUCAS ARTS! GIVE ME ANOTHER X-WING GAME

@Blade=Outfoxies?



Don't like the space combat all that much (not viceral enough, controls kinda... iffy). I also don't have the shear time required to really get into the meat and potatos of that game

http://www.mobygames.com/game/wilderness-a...vival-adventure

Wilderness Survival Adventure

The GG Shinobi
Mechwarrior II
Chakan: The Forever Man
ShadowWraith
Pathways into Darkness
Descent
Freespace 2

~J

It's a terrific 1994 arcade game. It's a kind of 2D one-on-one fighting game set in a contest between professional assassins.
You play in huge levels, with weapons scattered everywhere but you can also fight with your bare hands. The screen zooms in when the characters get close to each other and out when they are far away. Actually it's not unlike Smash Bros, except that you have to kill the opponent instead of throwing him out of the arena.

What makes the game really fun is the gameplay and the arenas, full of dynamic elements.

I want a space combat sim, where you can fly flighters etc, but you also have to actually FLY the capitol ships, and manage damage, weapons coverage, etc.

eviromental variables would be nice too. (in the middle of an asteroid field?)


also, I'm waiting for NOLF 3.

Yes and also land on planets, walk around and in your ship(s)... Yes. I'm Definitely waiting for Elite IV.


I was really disappointed by NOLF 2.

what was wrong with nolf 2 ? I found it about on par with 1.

It's hard to define exactly what it's lacking, but I didn't enjoy it that much. There are a few things I really disliked, such as:
* The useless filler mission with the cops and the wanted posters. Not much of a challenge and just a waste of time.
* The mission with the supersoldiers in India. I don't really like infiltration missions, and I hate them when you can't do anything to the enemies.
* The boss battle with the samurai girl. Once inside the house there was absolutely no way I could win in Superspy difficulty level (at least not with the way I'd spent my XP).
* The snowmobile part, when you come back from the enemy base. I guess you're supposed to drive through the enemies with everyone shooting at you, which is quite cool... But in Superspy difficulty you get killed too quickly, so you either have to lower the difficulty level or get down from the snowmobile to kill the enemies first.
* Respawning/infinite enemies.

The snowmobile part is quite doable on Superspy if you've spent some points to raise your hitpoints. I mean, it's still possible if you haven't, but it's not nearly as frustrating if you have. I think it was designed to screw the people who decided to dump all their skill points into armor instead of hitpoints.

The supersoldiers in India can be beaten down into overheating if you really need to. Some of my fond memories of this game are emptying all my ammo into one, drawing the tulwar, and going BANZAAIIIII and then actually overheating the supersoldier before dying.

I found the mission with the cops and wanted posters to be harder than the other ones since you can't just blow the cops away. I think I died more often to the cops cornering me and beating me to death with their batons than from guys with rifles whom I was allowed to shoot. Although the one thing that killed me the most in the game was the spiked ceiling deathtrap.

I've played through NOLF 2 maybe 10 times or so, but NOLF 1 only 1 time. You know, NOLF 2 basically corrected a lot of gameplay frustrations in NOLF 1, such as stealth being a total nightmare (no hiding spots), and there being more weapons than number keys to bind them to, such that it requires planning in advance of the level if you want to be able to draw a luger. Not to mention I found NOLF 1 was much harder to complete than NOLF 2. The last levels of NOLF 1 are much harder than the last levels of NOLF 2.

NOLF 1 had excellent atmosphere, and perhaps part of the charm was that they gave you all sorts of gadget weapons like the perfume bottles that were ultimately useless. But NOLF 2 basically removed a lot of the gameplay elements that were frustrating from NOLF 1. One example is how it's easier to use stealth because NOLF 2 tells you when you're "hidden" and when you're not.

X-COM: Awesome. Too bad all the sequels sucked.
The Longest Journey: They're making a 3rd, right?
MW2: Indeed.
Privateer: Oh man I loved that game. Too bad Privateer 2 had that "adaptive difficulty" thing which sort of killed it.
Independence Wars II: How did I miss this?
Wing Commander: The whole series was amazing.
Alpha Centauri: never played.

You want to hunt down a copy of Independence Wars 1&2 (2 has the pretty graphics and Privateer like storyline, 1 has the Enders Game crunchy mechanics)

Once you've worshipped at the altar of IW we can both scream into the night for a sequel.


@Moon-Hawk= It's kinda up in the air. There has been talk of episodic content which is something I'm not every excited about (the current crop of episodic content is not something I get very excited about. Especially with epic games like TLJ)

If you like Civilization and you like transhumanist themes. Alpha Centauri is awesome. It really needs an update but it's still my favorite rule the world game. It actually has a plot and subplots.


Also, NOFL?

Deus Ex
System Shock 2

If you want the space sim set up, I've been enjoying the hell out of Galactic Civ II... I need t get the new expansion too. Theres some good stuff in there, and customizable ships are cool (yes I've lost hours on the ship construction page, why do you ask?)

Ah, Gal Civ2 is fantastic (haven't played the expansion yet, i'll wait till I actually master the first game) but I don't want a conquer the galaxy game, I want a "Conquer a brand new virgin planet" game

I may or may not have lost hours to the ship design function in GC2. I loved how I could spin up production on ships that met my style of play, from fast lightly armored ships to protect my shipping and harass the enemy to massive battleships that formed the backbone of an invasion fleet. Oh and the fact that they gain experience didn't hurt my experience either

You mean NOLF, No One Lives Forever

Deus Ex certainly deserves a "good" sequel, but we'll have to wait and see if Deus Ex 3 can fit the bill.

Deus Ex 3 and Fallout 3 are tops in my most-wanted-sequel list...

How about the old SR Games. I played the shiznit out of the Genesis one. I really enjoyed them.

See but Fallout 3 is actually going to get made so my angst is contained on that front.

Although I would love to play an improved Fallout:Tactics


And yes, I'm fairly certain we'd all love to play a REAL SR game. Maybe when Bethseda gets done with Fallout...

There's some desert punk game I read about that sounded kinda SR like. Actually sounded really good but I can't remember the name.

But all this also begs the question: what would you expect from each of these sequels/remakes?

Shh, don't speak good of Fallout 3! The guys from No Mutants Allowed will hear you, and show up with pitchforks!

Seriously, I thought Dumpshock was occasionally bad on the "retarded half-logic" front now and again, but NMA puts everyone to shame. My favorite thing is that they incessantly mock and snark on anyone who says Fallout 3 will be any good because "obviously they don't know, since the game isn't out yet." Yet at the same time, they have crystal clarity into the future, saying how much it will suck, because "everything that made Fallout good has been stripped out."

Hey, NMA is the pwn. That's where I got the help I needed for my Fallout 2 mod.

NMA used to be the pwn before rabid "GTFO if you don't hate fallout 3!" took over.
I just hate the whole attitude that anyone who disagrees with Brother None isn't a "true fan."

Yes, I'm certain there's a silent majority that isn't infected with the groupthink. But it's like if someone showed up here during the height of Emo Samurai and James McMurray yelling at each other over SR4 - the stink is left on the entire place.

And if you like Gal Civ II you might want to give Sins of a Solar Empire a try. It's put out by Stardock as well. It's an RTS that tries to mimic the feel of a traditional 4X turn based game. Think Homeworld meets Masters of Orion. Unlike most RTS's, it's entirely possible to manage an economic victory, at least on larger maps where you can play the factions off against each other and sic pirates on anyone who gives you too many problems. The AI sometimes throws some surprising tricks at you and it took me almost 2 weeks to beat a game on the largest map with 6 other civilizations.

It also has an awesome sense of scale. You can zoom out seemlessly to see the entire explored galaxy or zoom in close enough that you can see the wing markings on your fighter craft. If you zoom out far enough to bring a capitol ship into focus you can hardly see the fighters, if you bring a planet into focus the Capitol ships and space stations look like tinker toys. Just to give you a sense of the scale, on the last big map campaign I had almost 1000 ships not counting fighter squadrons.

It has a few issues, the biggest one for me at least being the lack of ship customization outside of cap ships. That's an aspect of most 4X games that I quite enjoy but and the interface could also use a bit of polish, particularly in regards to fleet management but the innovation more than makes up for it. All and all it's still a hell of a lot of fun.

Yeah, I had seen Sins and wanted to check it out. Might have to look at it again tonight.

I personally thought that was fun...

Ah yeah, Sins is a great game, not nearly as satisifying as Gal Civ but it's for some fast and delicoius multiplayer.

And dude, to hell with anyone who says Fallout3 is going to suck. It looks pretty decent and there's an excellent development house in charge of it. Even if it's "Oblivion with guns and mutants" I could care less, the story so far sound excellent and the attention they seem to be lavishing on the setting is just what I'd expect.

So yeah, bah! Good times for all!

I would like to see sequals for Shadowrun (Genesis) and Vampire the Masqurade: Bloodlines (PC)

Legacy of Kain.

The latest installment in that series implied that there was one game (possibly two if the story was long enough) remaining to the series to complete the tale. As it stands, it's kinda like George Lucas had stopped at "Empire," and not where he should have stopped after "Jedi."

The day a good Shadowrun MMO comes out is the day I stop doing anything productive. I'm torn over whether to hope it happens.

I know of some folks who wished Lucas had stopped even at just Empire instead of going on to make Jedi... and then the prequels...

I recall reading somewhere that there was some debate over whether to show one's kids the movies in order:

1 2 3 4 5 6

... or to show them in the order they were released:

4 5 6 1 2 3

... or to show them in an order that tells the story of Anakin Skywalker:

4 5 1 2 3 6

... or to show them in "the order they should have been in:"

4

Come now, it's more of 4, 5.... maybe 6. done.

I can't believe I forgot this one but LBA needs its final part.

My vote is for Alpha Centaury! Great game, the best "civ" game I have played. it has plot and the cinematics are really cool.

Cheers!

Max

Master of Magic! Another Microprose hit that had it all. It was Civilization with tactical combat and D&D thrown in. One of the best games I've ever played.

The biggest problem with Sins is that the AI is pants on head retarded.

Yeah, SINs is very much a multiplayer game.

And hell yes! I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed that hell out of Alpha Centauri. What faction did you play? I gotta admit, I was a dirty mind worm wielding Daughter of Gaia (But I'm a dude, can't I be a son of Gaia? No, you're man meat corrupted Earth, now bow to your mind worm masters.).

Speaking of Lucas Arts, most of the Lucas Arts games before they went STARWARSONLY are worthy of remakes or sequels.

Grim Fandango, the Monkey Island franchise, Full Throttle....

I did enjoy that one.

Used to play the scientific faction.
Got all the things that raised scientific researched at the expense of "hackability" and built the thing that prevented hacking. I ended up with an insane research amount with no drawback.

The University faction was pretty fun but I liked mind worms too much to not play the Gaians.

Besides, Deidre was more fun to look at than the Russian science guy

Hell yes on Full Throttle.

"When trouble rides your back so close the leather squeaks."

"You know what'd look good on your bar? Your Face!"

Do so, its the only game thats pulled me away from world of warcrack for quite a while, tend to do a couple MP games a day with my housemate