QUOTE (Snow Fox)
This is going off target badly but there is a difference. in the ocld war the US and USSR both wanted their allies/satilites to follow their views. The difference is that the US tried to manipulate thought, they wanted allies to have free wiill but wanted that free will to think the US was right.
What free will was supported in Vietnam, El Salvador, Cuba, Angola, Chile, Panama, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Iraq, Indonesia, Dominican Republic, Cambodia, Lakota, Grenada, or Bolivia? That if they didn't do what the United States government thought they should do that they could be shot instead?
Yes, the United States
always hires some compradors on the ground in order that they are protecting the interests of something or other rather than "just" being an external invader. But that's just slickness, just
marketing. It isn't really any different to hire local crime lords and back them up with weapons, money, and "military advisors" than it is to just send your own damn troops. You're still taking external resources and shooting people in another country who don't agree with you. The bodies on the sidewalk and the source of the bullets is exactly the same.
The "free will" of "Worship me first amongst the gods and never break my commandments or rouse my ire lest ye be cast into an eternity of flames" is not
free. That's coercion that is every bit as real as the iron boots of any empire you care to mention. The fact that the United States historically pretends that it isn't crushing resistance and waging genocidal wars against groups that oppose it doesn't make it any nicer. Finding unbiased body counts is essentially impossible for that period, but they are extremely large for both sides. The United States won, but that doesn't mean that they weren't ruthlessly murdering people who opposed them. It just means that they were better at it than the Russians.
We get better body counts for WWII: Imperial Nippon gets the highest, followed by Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union. The allies get to be the "good guys" there simply because the death tolls racked up by the Axis were so unprecedentedly high. It's not like the British
weren't killing literally millions of people in India during that period. The only group that comes off even slightly OK during the cold war is the Unaligned Movement. At least they had the balls to kick South Africa out for being genocidal fucktards.
-Frank