There needs to be really anal retentive rules for nicotiene where it lets you shoot your rifle better.

how does +0.0001 die pr dose sound?

Nah, you take a box of physical damage every combat turn while smoking but doing so reduces range penalties by one level and adds 2 dice (-1TN in SR3) to all tests made with a scoped weapon .

Yeah, Metal Gear called it right. Some of my fondest memories from that game were deciding to perversely run around with a cigarette in Raiden's mouth just to watch it do more damage to him than bullets.

HEY!! THAT'S ME YOU'RE TALKIN ABOUT!! Plus, $10 for a 32 hour high that's like combining shrooms, LSD, weed, and a mickey of vodka is pretty good. And 'gateway drug' is something the US made for the "War on Drugs'.

Back to the topic, weed will never leave. It's always there, just outta sight, and we're all lovin it.

...one of the PC shamans in my old group actually had Marijuana smoking as his centering skill.

err, i know hippies dont die, but thats really impressive

Yeah, look how good Jerry Garcia's doing...oops.

I know you can do hot ohuses. the idea is look for a house in a godo neighborhood. and use it just to grow stuff inside. police now look for massive electric bills as clues. But I think SF's idea about space is also that different nations do not have as much space anymore. The US is only about 1/4 of it's old size. That means if you use the same ground. it will be imported-driving up costs.

thats when you break out the knowhow to up the yield of the crop

Here in the Netherlands, Heroin is easier to get and cheaper, and is most of my high-school buddies first drug. Its a sick world, I know.

now thats one way to start the party with a bang...

I'll bet that REAL WORLD lawyers advised the publishers not to include REAL drugs. Given that, the only problem I see is that you don't think Deepweed is a close enough analogue to Mary Jane.

Get over it! It's close enough.

Also, Deepweed use doesn't give mundanes astral perception. As one poster pointed out, if it did, that would make it both more popular, and actually useful.

Yeah, but he died of "Good Health".

Cold Turkey is NOT how you give up a life of Rock 'n' Roll Excess!

I think in 1st Ed they used to make reference to Nicosticks in fluff sections. It probably wouldn't be a stretch to think that synthesized THC could be given a similar treatment.

Nicotine actually causes the blood vessels in the eyes to constrict (like the blood vessels in the rest of the body) and may hamper night vision. An interesting predicament if you had an elf with a three-pack-a-day habit.

yeah, only deepweed costs about 50x today's black market prices for weed (i know YMMV, but i figure ~8 bucks worth of decent kindbud or hashish will get somebody pretty ripped if they smoke it all at once)

synthetic cannabinoids are already around - CP 55,940 for example, is 45 times more potent than delta9-thc, or HU-210, which is several hundred times more potent

frankly, i think the world could do without, because dosing something that strong is way way too unreliable, and those responsible marijuana users don't need a bunch of morons overdosing on THC-analogues and making them look bad

but that being said, i'm sure that despite the lack of references to it, marijuana is still around in 2070. it's been around for centuries, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon

Marijuana (or synthetic canabinoids) are mentioned in Arsenal as a part of a drug called snuff. And according to the tables provided there, it's completely legal.
Oddly, it gives +1 to reaction, meaning that in SR4, smoking weed makes you a better driver...

I guess it's now everyone's favorite gateaway drug.

heh, snuff.

as for the effect, could be a typo. those positives and negatives are a troublesome lot to keep organized...

Hm, over here Snuff is tobacco in powder form, intended to be snorted.. sounds wierd? well this is Sweden.. the worlds largest consumer of snus and we dont shun taking our nicotine in unorthodox ways

Snorted, or stuffed under you upper lip. Or even, for that secondary school dare, attempted shoved up where the sun was never meant to shine...

Yeah, the Scandinavians have a way with tobacco few would ever even want to emulate.


Anyway: cannabis is likely legal most places in the 2070s. Without opening the whole debate and attached wormcan, I'd say that most governments are moving towards that (slowly, but they're moving) even now. And what corp would pass up the opportunity sell something with such strong sub-cultural traditions; making them appear to be friendly in the eyes of even more people.

There needs to be a huge probability table for various tooth and gum related grotesqueries related to chewing tobacco.

just like in real life (says the ex-pizza delivery boy)!

(disclaimer: i do not condone driving under the influence of any mind-altering substance. if people could smoke anywhere they wanted to, they wouldn't have to do it in their cars)

Just keep the windows rolled up. Hot box it!!!

In my game there was a PC whose defining features were:
1) He liked sex
2) He smoked a lot of dope.

That was really about it. While everyone else was posting about how the building is surrounded and on fire, he'd come on and post something about how he's running in the sewers (??) I think he took his role-playing a little TOO seriously.

Anyway, I got some stats for weed just for him (forget where from). For SR3R:

Marijuana .5/1 hrs $10 SI .5
AKA: grass, weed, hashish, dubich, ganja
Addiction: 3m
Tolerance: 3
Speed of Addiction: 20
Speed: 2d6/1d6 minutes
Vector: Inhalation/Ingestion
Duration: 4d6 minutes/1d3 hours
Effects: Quickness -2, Intelligence -1, Charisma -1, Willpower -1, Reaction -2, lethargy, euphoria, block-all(2)
Crash Effects: Charisma -1, Reaction -1, Willpower -1, hunger, sensory sensitivity, Stimulant(1)
Permanent Effects: Artistic skills +1 once per month of use [Charisma(6), +1 maximum total increase], Charisma +1 once per month use [Willpower(6), +1 maximum total increase]