Just curious what we've got here.
I had to add the "not this batch" things because it turns out it won't let you not vote for one if you vote for the other you have to click something in both.


EDIT: Gorram forum not letting me change the typo in the thread title.
EDIT#2: Thanks mod.

I like the replacement of '90+' with 'damn.' =P

Anyone know where Fortune is, while we are speaking of immor(t)al elves?

Wow. Only two non drinkers so far. We really are an older set.

what's got drinking to do with age? O.o

I see nobody too young to drink here.

Er. Right. That's mostly an American thing. We don't let you legally purchase alcohol until you're 21. Similarly drinking it is usually illegal prior to that age.

*shrugs*
so? that stop anyone from drinking before that age?
over here, it's similar, but still, most people start drinking beer and other stuff at about 16

Am I the only one over 40 here? <sigh>

Over here, the legal age is 16.

It's rather funny actually as you can have people who are old enought to vote regarding the leadership of ones country, carry a firearm and drive a car - but not drink...

All of the above in combination is always dangerous (voting and drinking) but really...

Yes, the US of A is a land of many contradictions and wacky Puritan laws. PS: Hooray, I'm in the big group!

Think there is a reason for the big group? 16 year olds getting into SR1? Or maybe that's just Shadowruns demographic?

Being able to drink legally below age 21 has been around in the US a couple times. Apperantly there were problems with drunks in high school. Not that people below 21 don't commonly drink. But they at least have to be covert about it.

Do keep in mind, this is only a poll of DSF, not of Shadowrun players. While I'd let my 6-year-old play Shadowrun, I don't think I'd be so quick to let him hang out with you lot.

There is some shadowtalk of older people

Still being over 40 means you must have gotten into Shadowrun in the first place when you were older.

As the years move on I wonder if we'll see those of us playing now mostly dropping the game or if it'll hold and/or maybe add some people. I mean I dunno about you, but I'm bringing my d6s to the nursing home.

Youngest on the bored man that makes me feel out of place.

What's wrong with me? I mean... us.

-Chrysalis

Heh. Can we start calling you grasshopper?

-paws

Actually since we have some writers here. Do they ever tell you guys any demographic stuff? It could be relevant to how you write. I.e. if your target audience squarely out of high school you can be freer with adult situations, language, and may be able to count on a bit more in the way of attention spans.

The long and short of it is that the age of majority used to be 21 in the US for everything. When the age was lowered to 18 in the 1970s the drinking age in many states was lowered as well. The problem was that ID in those days was minimal at best. Divers licences did not have pictures and were usually printed on white card stock, so were very easy to change. As a result drinking amoung teens rose sharply. The fact that it was the 1970s and drinking and drugs-taking was rising across pretty much all demographics was largely ignored. Something had to be done - especially if you were a parent that would rather have the government regulate your kids drinking rather than actually parenting. So the federal government arm-twisted the state governments to raise the drinking age back to 21. This may actually be illegal, especially with current ID technology, the public policy arguement for this type of age discrimination holds less and less water.
I won't even let my six year old play Shadowrun, but that is largely because I doubt I could get him to sit still long enough.
I'm 39 and got into the first edition while still in college. Since the first edition was aimed at the experienced gamer it isn't that unusual to find players in their 40s. Finding ones with the time to play is another matter altogether.

I see a huge upsurge in RPGs once us old guys start retiring and actually having time to game again. What else are we going to do?

I still can't believe I'm the only 16 year old on the forum. But I guess its understandable as SR ain't to big aswell losing out to other teen aimed RPGs. Shadowrun is much more mature in its own way kind of why I like it its not just hack and slash and you can do what I failed at in D&D witch is intrigue based games rather well though the D&D fell though because of the players as well.

I never felt like SR, or the cyberpunk genre in general, was trying to appeal to the under 16 demographic.

I kinda feel like it's something like you start off with stuff like Pokemon or whatever, and eventually you have hair where you didn't have hair before, and it's time to upgrade to something like D&D, eventually you're actually having sex and getting diplomas and then it's time to think about leaving the dungeons behind for some skyscrapers.

And then currently it seems like your hair goes white and it's time to paint up some wargame miniatures. But I think that's mostly just because tabletop wargames have been around for longer the RPGs. We'll see what's up in 20 years.

It'll be interesting. Sometimes I wonder if it'll get enough acceptance where you could see things like the family having a one shot Paranoia game on Thanksgiving or some other holiday or something.

I know that my friends faimliy did such things on there parent's anniversary or someones birthday its a longish story but it boils down to there parents meting in a game of Paranoia. Oddly enough there son is the one who got me in to RPGs.

I doubt it.

Woo hoo im youngest at the tender age of 14, I found this Game (Forum) whils't searching for forums to shadowrun (xbox 360). The thing is, if I told my mates about my little secret I would be laughed out of school. 14 year olds can be so nasty


The grim

Good. I'd hate to be the only one.

Aww, you're The Littlest 'Shocker.

Dont get patronising at me! *Pouts*

We can always call you - fish.

Wait. So did you get into the RPG due to the video game or do you just hang around us for some... other... reason...

Careful chummers, I think this one might be a trap.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/Eth...84367762037.jpg


(Oh. And for some of the foreigners who might not get that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlyAxdvBfo )

Fear not Smed, There are a few of us old farts hanging around.

Mark

But seriously, ye I did and I was shocked how badly wrong they got the game. To be fair though it doesn't stop me from enjoying the game and I think this is better for me as I am very creative - story writing and such.

My parents also tell me i've got a vivid imagination


The Grim

Can't say I agree. I had my first shadowrun experience around 13-14. I'm 18 now, putting me in quite a minority here on the forums.

It's quite surprising to me, actually.

I got into Shadowrun with 1st edition when I was 13/14. I'm 30 now. But I also know that cyberpunk is pretty much dead as a movement. So unless you were a teen in the eighties or early/mid nineties I couldn't see Mondo 2000, Neuromancer, etc. appealing to any youngster today other than as kitch. Because they're already living it or have seen the ideas translated into movies like The Matrix.

"Why do those weirdos like to dress up in ripped black leather and turn Commodore 64 circuit boards into earrings? I'm going to go update my Facebook page now."

SR in it's current context of 4th ed. is a post-cyberpunk setting... whatever that is. "Trans-human" or whatever the in-vogue term is in use now.

I think I consider the low teens to be a transitional period for Shadowrun. Indaviduals can be mature enough for it. However if you get a big enough group of people in that age group together to run a game there will probably be some shortcomings. But you never know.

A 14 year old in an older group would probably work just fine.

good im glad you guys think it can work, I like the back story and I like rpg's so this game is pwerfect for me. (w is intended)

By the way is anybody actually 90+ here or did some people just get confused by the "damn" or whatever.

They are most likely to be confuzlcated.

Ok the w thing would be cute... Except you're a dude right?

I got into Shadowrun around 15/16. I'm just about to hit thirty! As to drinking, well I agree age has nothing to do with it - I've never drunk at all!

As to different age groups, I think it's seriously the case that there should be more mixing of different age groups. Yes - we game within our peer groups and they tend to be of our own age for various reasons, but if you look at the spread above, you can see the risk for the hobby of having too much concentration within a particular age group. When you reach my sort of age, there is a lot less free time for most of us due to families. And even if you don't have a family, you find that a lot of your friends do so it still affects you. And inevitably people drop out of the hobby for a while so if you don't get more fresh blood coming in than you have old blood going out, well that's the end of Shadowrun.

Personally I would love to run a game for some younger groups - they tend to have a lot of energy and enthusiasm - but I have no idea how to go about that.

GrimReaper: If he asks for location too (a/s/l), DON'T TELL HIM!

Well Im in group one. I started with shadowrun 1st ed. which I got from my uncle who needed to get rid of his old books. and my freinds and I played it a little then I found fourth edition and we switched to that.

Is there a college anywhere near you? Many of them have gaming clubs that tend to be chronically short of good GMs and most are to some degree open to people outside the university (you might not be a technical member but they'll welcome you in).

Also you can put up an add to run a game in most if not all game/comic stores. Though these are getting fewer in number sadly.

If you poke around online there are often other gaming group organizations around.

There are also high schools, but I'd stay clear of those as that might be creepy on your part.

26 years old and I've been wargaming longer than I've been playing RPGs. Not Warhammer (does not fucking count) either, I'm talking cardboard chits with NATO unit markers on a hex map wargaming. First played AH's Russian Campaign when I was 12.

Then I got into MtG. *shudders*

It's Ok Mark, we know we saw you and the cadre of old men puttering around with your walkers at GenCon It seems though a majority of people here are getting into that 30s range. In fact looking at the attendance I saw at the con, it runs 20-30ish all the time for most runners. Though unlike some games whose old timers keep them away from play, we like new blood. So welcome to the youngsters around here, maybe we can catch you at a table at a con one day .

41 here, and agree with the talk about the importance of trying to bring a younger demographic into the game. It's really kind of a catch 22 - when I was younger I didn't have money to spend on RPGs. Now I've got money, but no time to actually run a game because of work and other responsibilities. Eventually I'll lose interest in my sourcebooks and start yelling at the neighbor kids to "Get off my lawn!", and Catalyst will lose it's fanbase.

I disagree I'm very big cyberpunk fan but I'm ananonaly for my age group. Stuff like that is many a shade more awesome than alot of stuff today.


I'd love to take you up on that but being from the UK I'll likely run a missions game before a get to play one. Also its rather hard to find people to play with as I'm not up to running an open game ATM.

Forum and chat games can be good too. Especially for those of us too busy with work and family to schedule regular games.

I'm running one on here. and am in another two. Its just that I like the experience of being in a group as well.

whyever not?
he'd learn many important and interesting skills O.o
unarmed and armed close combat, military tactics, nuclear-physics, chemical and biological warfare, bingeing, shooting people that draw faster in the back etc. etc. drekcetera ^^


we like new blood 'cause it means it's less likely that OUR blood gets to see open skies *snickers*

edit: yes, i realize that with that comment i probably made another FBI/CIA/NSA-Agent watch dumpshock forums