SR2 (IIRC) did have table for climbing along glass wall.
i cant find those climbing rules anymore.

so what would be the modifiers and TN for climbing a glasswall?
and what about if you have suctioncup in every hand, elbows, knees and feets?

It would probably be impossible without suckers, unless you're just rapelling down it, or something.

yes, we also came to conclusion that without suckers it would have TN's like 24, but what about when you got them? 4?

we are fliping trough books and pages but can't find any rules.
so are we jsut blind or what?

Industrial strength suction cups to support a metahuman's weight and a minimal amount of tools?

-Siege

what avail and price would they have then? 6/24?
and how much would one suction support? 25kg?

Why climb a glass wall when you can use a diamond glasscutter and walk through, then take the elevator or stairs?

The larger the suction cup, the greater the air pressure holding it against the glass and the greater the weight that can be held.

Here are some rated at 250 kg (550 lbs) per suction cup, they appear to have about 200 sq. inches of surface area and conform to the surface so it doesn't have to be glass-smooth. Link

Wait...my physics teacher had these weird lever operated suction cups that were so powerful, I could hang from the ceiling with two. And I think I weighed about 130 back then...and they were pretty small and weighed like nothing.

Hmm. Instead of pushing from the other side: Wouldn't a sucker on the side the scratch was made on also work?

But...in the 2060s....

(You could figure where I'm going with that)

Man you guys are dense. Did you all fall off the 'Not Getting My Jokes Tree' that everyone seems to have taking a nosedive from?

In the 2060s, you could probably have something that would easily cut through glass, even if you only have access to one side. And yes, there would be hot elf chicks.

They already have magnets that can support a person. They're not that big either. Its all game balance.

Theres a hand magnet system in M&M...

I don't even remember the mechanic -- I just remember the color blurb about someone riding an AV out. :grin:

-Siege

Which, if I recall correctly still will not really hold up the average shadowrunner. I never use them, so I may be mistaken, but I distinctly remember a few people bitching about it on more than one occasion.

Edit: Each Magnet system adds +4 to the users Strength for the purposes of clinging to metal objects. If they had left it at that, it would be fine. However, it goes on to state that each limb can hold only one system, and each limb system can support 25 kg on it's own, explaining that a person weighing 75 kg would need to implant 3 systems. In my experience, most people loaded with cyber (ie. those who would be interested in this relatively non-Essense-friendly ware) tend to weigh more than 100 kg.

I have a thief who has two of them, their rated at 25kg each. So no, they won hold up a Shadowrunner if you just have two of them, but if you had hands and feet, then you could get 100kg wich is like a 180 pounds I think, so you could hold up a small runner.

Heres my guess on the TN.

Athletics test with a TN of 8 to climb the building. I would alos have them do a body test with a tn of 6 every four floors, why? Because they are climbing up a wall with only their arms and legs to support them, very hard.

One kilogram is 2.2 pounds, so 100kg is 220 pounds.

Which is still less that the average cybered human should weigh, let alone an orc or troll.

Oh, absolutely. It's pretty lame.

Simple, treat that 25kg per limb to be the amount of weight it can carry if you have no handhold at all. Thus, a person of less than 100kg with four such systems can climb a sheer ferrous wall, while anyone heavier would need to make some sort of handhold.

One would think that the point of a magnetic system is to actually be able to stick to stuff. If someone is going to sacrifice 1.2 Essence in order to implant magnets, they should be able to hold that person.

Suction cups that could be slightly modified to climb if you want. They can even be battery powered for easy climbing. Check out the HC-S108D-AB, they can carry a lot of weight.

Yes, I'd have no problem with using suction cups that can hold a runner's weight. I don't know exactly how much weight glass can hold however. OK: so bullet-proof glass would probably be OK but what about normal glass? Could it survice the forces involved when a suction cup supports 75kg or more?

found the page and rules.
Shadow Companion, page 44.

no glass&suction cups rules, tough...

Assuming they are climbing the side of a sky scraper, I would assume that the glass can take their weight (unless they are a troll, or something). The glass windows on skyscrapers tend to be pretty tough stuff to stand up the hurricane winds and all. Not to mention, in SR they might have moved up to bullet-resistane polymer, which would be even tougher.

A lot ofthings already use Lexan or other impact resistant plastics/polycarb resins for windows. Considering the world of SR is singificantly more unpleasant, it's rather likely that many floors if not the entire building will be using ballistic glass. That said, even with normal glass as we have now, it can easily support the weight of a human being, and scaled up to 2060s standards, any metahuman.

By the way, to those of you who think you'll be climbing this building with your hands and feet, I would like to know how you plan on operating these lever action suction cups with your toes. You do this with your hands and you just wear climbing shoes to keep your grip. And current cups can hold quite a bit; 25k each is just silly.