Girls, cool your jets. could we get back to the silly badwrong Fun that Ghouls can be in close combat?
Troll-Ghoul adept? Or Dwarf Ghoul Adept? Or Ork Ghoul Adept?
Heck, if he gets infected, what about DRAKE Ghoul Adept?
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 29 2009, 04:53 AM) 
what about DRAKE Ghoul Adept?
Rule of Cool.
QUOTE (HappyDaze @ May 29 2009, 12:45 AM)
What I was referring to was the implication that HMHVV-related (and SURGE-related) reduced senses are neurological by default.
The problem with implications is that they only hold true as long as there is no explicit situation that invalidates the implication. In order for your implication to be true, you need to assume that all Reduced Senses caused by HMHVV are neurological in nature. However, since the rules on Ghouls explicitly mention the non-neurological cause of their Reduced Senses the "contradiction" automatically invalidates the implication by making the made assumption false. There's not much to argue there ... and that doesn't even touch the fact the neurologically caused reduced senses are also only a subset within the quality.
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That was how I had read that sentence although it's certainly not the only way to read it.
And I tried to show you why that way of reading is simply not correct ...
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I've discovered that the use of 'applied logic' - at least as that phrase is used on the internet - is often a waste of too much thought. If you have to apply more thought on the interpretation of a game rule than the writers/designers likely put into it, then I consider is pointless.
And who is putting now more thought into this by making assumptions on what the developer's might or might not have thought? Sorry, but the reason why I usually default to simple propositional logic when dealing with written rules, is the mere fact that I don't want to speculate what devs might have thought. And in this case the seemingly existing "contradiction" turns out to be no such thing, since the whole thing totally works out on all levels.
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Besides, I'm much more of a Dr. McCoy than a Spock - I can think logically, but that's hardly the sole deciding factor in anything I do.
In that case the proposition of accepting an implication that is based on an assumption that stands at odds with explicit rulings is even more surprising.
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@ Stahlseele:
Unfortunately with the SR4 rules my "Ego-Crew" with four Troll-Ghoul-Adepts and their magically talented, dwarven Ghoul leader just don't get that impressive in neither melee nor ranged combat as they used to in SR3.
Oh and due to their HMHVV immunity in SR4 Drake Ghouls are slightly "uncool"
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