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Karoline
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Dec 30 2009, 09:31 PM) *
I did say "paranoid".

He's a grumpy 65 year old ex-black ops guy. He's not always rational about these things.



-karma

Fair enough. My grandfather is super paranoid about his computer too.
Draco18s
QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 30 2009, 10:15 PM) *
Fair enough. My grandfather is super paranoid about his computer too.


Mine's a bloody idiot. Well, the one. The other was an engineer on--damn, now I've forgotten the designation. The radar dish airplanes. That grandfather still knows Boeing company secrets.
BlackHat
QUOTE (Karoline @ Dec 30 2009, 01:39 PM) *
No reason to be. With the slaving rules from SR you just have to set your commlink to only accept commands from your datajack (Or manually input commands or whatever) and it is hack-proof. You then slave all of your other things to your commlink and they are now also hack-proof. Basically the slaving rule means that personal commlinks and devices of anyone with any sort of thought for security are completely impossible to hack.


Almost. See Unwired pg 55.

"... Third, they can spoof the access ID of the master node and then spoof commands to the slave."

Plus, it isn't clear that setting your commlink to only accept commands via datajack/manual makes it immune to hacking. IIRC, if its online, its hackable. You can't keep it online so its usable, but tell it "oh, and don't get hacked". smile.gif
Rotbart van Dainig
You pretty much can, see Strong Encryption.
BlackHat
Thats true. Although you have to sit around for 24 hours every time you reboot your commlink. Still, minor inconvenience.

My point was that slaving something isn't sufficient. If you strong-encrypt your devices, it doesn't really matter if they're slaved or not.

Edit: Although, I suppose, if slaved, you only have to strong-encrypt the commlink - so I guess it helps. biggrin.gif
Karoline
QUOTE
One node, the slave, may be linked to another node, the master.
In this setup, the master is given full admin access to the slave.
When slaving a node to a master, the slaved node does not accept
any Matrix connections from any other node but the master and
instantly forwards any connection attempts to the master.
Hackers have three options when faced with a slaved node.
First, they can hack in directly to the slave with an additional
threshold modifier of +2, though this requires a physical (wired)
connection to the device. Second, they can hack the master node
(thus gaining access to the slaved node—and any other slaves—
as well), though this node is usually more secure. Third, they can
spoof the access ID of the master node and then spoof commands
to the slave.


So, option 1 basically isn't going to work, because if your commlink has a physical wired connection with the hacker, you've got bigger problems.
Option 2 doesn't work because the 'master node' in this case is physical input or your brain, neither of which can be hacked.
Option 3 doesn't work either because you can't spoof a physical command or a brain. And it should be noted that the rules for spoofing require that you have 'seen' the master system (And even know what it is in the first place). So yeah, a commlink slaved to your brain or physical input is basically impossible to hack. Something slaved to that commlink though, that could be hacked by virtue of spoofing the commlink, but you still need to figure out which commlink it is slaved to and then go find it. Oh, and don't forget that those subsystems only have a signal of 0 generally, and the commlink won't cooperate in bouncing a signal to them, so you'd need to be within a few meters of the hacking target to manage this.
KarmaInferno
Eh, "tiny chance" is still more than "no chance".

No wireless capability at all = cannot be hacked at distance. Even a few meters away.

Thus, one internal commlink to run all the PAN stuff, all hardwired with no wireless at all. Not just turned off, the wireless capacity physically removed.

One sunglass commlink in hidden mode with earpiece for comms with the team. Not connected to anything else, can be ditched if needed.

A half dozen disposable commlinks, one turned on in public mode as a decoy.



-np
Karoline
Someone's taken Paranoid wink.gif
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