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I show them my collection of Shadowrun Novels. (The trilogy of power in particular)

Gotta agree there, Trilogy of power was an excellent intro to the whole concept of the world. From zombie saleryman to street magic and wired up sammys. AI's, and over the top magic. I usually point out where Ghost is shooting the dragon with the mini-gun (and why)

Lots of good ideas so far. Here's a couple more I like.

TV:

Flashpoint -- police tactical squad that aims to keep people alive. Unique concept, eh? Great examples of commlink interaction and teamwork. Good spread of archetypes, from sniper to face to hacker.

The Border -- Canadian customs and border security. More politics and sex than Flashpoint, and awesome ideas for GMs on how to make life difficult for PCs using their backgrounds. Lots of smuggling, terrorists, and beautiful US and British security agents. A recent episode had a good presentation of a biker gang.

wait Matrix isn't #1???!
i'm surprised it wasn't mentioned until like 15 posts in o.O

I am more looking at the Matrix like a good rip-off of Platon's work ...

The Matrix is Acually a better Discription for a White Wolf Mage Game the a Shadowrun Game.
As for Shadowrun it is a good way to describe the Matrix, but not Shadowrun as a whole

Actually, its a terrible way to describe the Matrix as only UV Nodes are indistinguishable from real life, people look like what they want to look like and even can get $200 programs that resculpt the nodes to look like how they want them to look (opposed test, actually).

I'd go with Johnny Mnemonic and the William Gibson novels.
Just add D&D.

I just watched "Ink" and thought it would be great as an illustration of the astral plane, metaplanes, astral quests, and even astral combat.

"Renaissance" is also very good.

Oh, and for future reference there is THIS.

We were talking about it last night and we came up with two real good examples of play.

The Kingdom: for the 1st 2/3 of the movie it starts of slow as you go around trying to find out what is going on and who you are looking for. Meet a few contacts and interact with the locals while trying to blend in as “Big Brother” Looks over your shoulder. The last 3rd of the movie is pure un-distilled action, car chases, gun fights and close quarters fighting.

Ronin: This one is one of the best non-Cyberpunk Shadowrun Movie ever in our opinion. You have a team with a Fixer, Covert Ops Specialist, Sam, Rigger and “The New Guy”. It goes through the putting together o the team, meeting with the Armorer to get special gear [That goes wrong], the execution of the mission with one of the best car chases ever filmed and then the double cross, triple cross and I think once more.

Ocean's 11 might be another good one for that category. One really well executed B&E of a secure vault, some Face action, and finishing off with an extraction.
Saw the remake recently.

Leverage was mentioned earlier but the premier episode really is an outstanding ShadowRun plot example, only missing magic and cyber to fill the bill. It's only drawback as an introduction for a new player is that the characters are high-end top runners, not relatively new crew.

this is true, especially a game involving the Technocracy.

I'd also have added Bubblegum Crisis to the list. Yeah, the powered armor suits and boomers are a little more like R. Tal-flavored Cyberpunk, but the visuals of Neo Tokyo, the Genom corporation, the mercs-for-hire schtick and Priss being a rock musician when she isn't running the shadows is pretty evocative for me.

well this made me think so there are a few I'd always mention but this did give me other ideas.
first off:
Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell, Robocop. for tech levels

The books of the "Dresden Files" for magic in the modern world

"The Maltese Falcon" "Sneakers" for how you have to look for hidden plots

"Guns of Naverone" "Where Eagles Dare" "Usual Suspects" for how totally screwed up things can become.

"Deep Rising"

It occurred to me that the series Andromeda would fit. I was watching it the other day, the second episode has a brief VR experience, which is repeated many more times through the series. They do a good job of representing the matrix.

How the the game was suposed to be: Mission Imposible

Who it turns out: The Stupids

I read this as Deep Blue Sea and I was this close to posting, "A SHARK ATE ME! A FSKING SHARK ATE ME."

But then I doublechecked.

"A shake at me Mal, a shark..."

Watchmen.

Outland for the feel
Alien because that is just SR 2120...
Total Recall because thats the SR char I would make when told to make a normal Joe for starting a campaign. Also, its SR 2084

Just FYI: a few rules changes might be necessary, such that Pilot:Aerospace is common, but Pilot:Ground-craft is not.

oh Total Recall-good one, I'd forgotten that but yeah, very good.

The Invisibles. Straight up.

This reminded me last night, and stay with me here - Over The Hedge.

Say what?

At it's core, this is a heist movie written with animals. Rocky the Raccoon (played by the note perfect Bruce Willis) is "hired" by a Johnson he's personally screwed to pull off a huge heist in under I *think* two weeks. The problem is, Rocky has a rep for screwing almost every single team he's ever worked with. So he comes across this group of neophyte runners, sees them for suckers, and uses them to pull off the heist, not realizing that he's actually found the team he's supposed to stay with. Hilarity and floating bears ensue.

Rocky: Face
Verne: Street sam (not a very good one)
Hammy: Elven physad, geas: caffeine
Stella: Troll bouncer
Lou & Penny: fixer & mechanic
Their kids: hacker, technomancer, rigger

(No, I totally didn't look up the names on Wiki, gosh )

Shame the movie was only tangentially related to its parent comic strip. RJ claimed to have started the universe, there's a Tree that Knows Stuff, and various other quirks that are so much funnier.

Word to that! Perfect reference for SR's new age mysticism. See also Grant Morrison's Animal Man and Doom Patrol. Or The Filth. Or anything he's written for DC's Vertigo imprint.

I know Warren Ellis is the soup de jour for SR influence from comics because of Transmetropolitan, but Morrison was writing about the conceits of modern mysticism that SR uses looong before that or Strange Kiss trundled onto the scene.

Desparodo
Zhohan
Hot Fuz
Soldier
Black Rain
Romanceing The Stone

Really? I was reading the comic for awhile and while it was occasionally funny, it just seemed full of non-sequiters and boring observations. Different strokes different folks, I guess.

(or it could be a case of, I saw the movie first before the comic, so I naturally dig how the characters are presented there instead of..you know what I mean)

I grew up with the strip in the local paper, so--like all childhood memories--I might be a bit biased.

I did manage to ruin my liking of Freakazoid, so I've avoided watching old shows that I know were a bit non-sequiter (like Bonkers and Darkwing Duck).

Bonkers was . . no, not my thing . . Darkwing Duck . . i actually built him in SR3 ^^
Dwarf, Surge, Natural Kid Stealth Legs, Feathers, Bill of a Bird.
Gave him basically some close combat, some launch weapons for the grenade launcher and filled out with things like forensics or so ^^

Darkwing Duck was non-sequitur? I remember it as Disney's take on Batman set in the Ducktales universe. Fun anthro-animal kid-fare and fairly coherent.

Age must be distorting my memory.

How could you burn yourself out on Freakazoid? That's like, completely alien to me. It's like stating that you've outgrown Calvin and Hobbes.

My first thought when I heard that Ricardo Montalbon had died was, "god, what a weenie."

I don't know if it was, I'm afraid of murdering my childhood memories by watching it to find out. Bonkers I know was strait up wacky off the wall non-sequiter humor and know I wouldn't enjoy it now.

I just know I wanted to go find some old 'toons I liked and watch them again. I heard The Tick and Transformers were very good (still haven't watched either), but I did watch Gargoyles--which was good, excepting season 3 which had new writers--and an episode of Freakazoid--which made no sense what so ever, but the intro is still fun for me. I've also tried watching Godzilla:The Series, but oddly, I found it too slow (couldn't sit through five minutes of it).

Gargoyles was so well put together that they did the obligatory social message episode so subtly no one noticed (and it is in fact the only episode to have been cut for modern children audiences because, gasp, Lisa gets shot).

As a child fan of transformers who owns the whole thing on DVD, I can say with some confidence that it has aged well. Gargoyles is still flipping amazing.

A friend and old roommate of mine watched Transformers and The Tick, and he's someone I consider to judge things on an objective level, so I figured as much.

I'm sorry, but no.
I HAVE bought the complete first Series on DVD-Box.
And i TRIED watching it. But in the first episode alone i had so many moments where i was just shaking my head at how dumb it all was that i stopped shortly after . .
Curiously, i still love and adore the very first Transformers Movie with Unicron. i was SO happy when i got it in HD ^^

It's a Cheesy 80s Sci Fi Cartoon. They weren't that good to begin with. But it's the best of 'em.

In the very first episode, megatron can fly. and he can shoot.
What does he do? a climbing race up a mountain instead of flying.
And instead of shooting Optimus square in the chest? Yes, energy-axe . .
I still like Galaxy Rangers. And Ulysses 31. MAYBE Saber Rider.
But Transformers is too hard to stomach for me i'm afraid ._.
I WANT TO LIKE IT!
And i still love the first Movie. I watch it once or twice a week.
And yes damn it, i still cry when our lord and saviour dies ;_;

There's worse than that.

Man, the only Transformers I could ever get into was Beast Wars and Beast Machines. Smarter written, smaller casts, better production (for the time). I was (okay, still am) a huge Silverbolt / Black Arachnia fan, and the redemption of BA and then her redemption of SB was one of those moments for me.

One of my favorite lines from them is surprisingly SR appropos:

SB: "You shot me!"
BA: "You wouldn't shut up!"
SB: "Wait - you shot me in the leg! That proves that you love me!"
BA: "Oh for the love of -"

Judge Dredd and Demolition Man. Also Hackers1. Yes, i know, horrible.

One low budget movie that was very Shadowrun to me was The Prodigy.

It goes a long way to show just how effective a real pro is in a world of hoods and thieves.

Even with the space witches? And a group of space cops playing in a band? Playing their show's theme song? Wow.

Yeah, that's a show that I wanted to like, as an adult, but... no.



It's okay if you don't. Set aside for a moment that it was a 30 minute toy advertisement, it was still a ridiculous, nonsensical television show. The animated movie was an entirely different beast.

If you want Transformers Done Right, check out the Simon Furman run on Transformers for Marvel UK.

There was some cartoon I watched (could it have been Legendz?) where they made fun of that. The fake show was in fact a 30 minute toy advertisement complete with "give me my sold separately giant cannon!" type phrases.

The Transformers talk is amusing

1] Back in 1998 I started a Modern SyFy/Horror game from the Millitary Point of Veiw and used the SR systems, the Unit was Called NEST-13 [NATO-Emergancy-Strike-Teams] When I was T: RotF I almost fell out my seat.

2] My SR GM has been working on a Transformers RPG for years and the SR4 rules have made it more posible than ever to get a serious system, not a modified Superhero or other type.

How toyetic.

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