What's the bonus for using 2 sets of spurs? Add half the strenght? Where are the rules for that?

Add 1/2 Strength, rounded down. SR3 p. 121.

Combat rules pg121 SR3

Thanks

Bu you can still take Off Hand Implant Weapons and get the dice too.

Doesn't say you can't anywhere....hey, wait a tick. Are you mocking me?!

as i recall, someone wrote into info-at-srrpg-dot-com and got pretty much that same answer--by the rules, you get both bonuses. the author added the caveat, however, that he'd suggest house-ruling it to one or the other.

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well, heck. 'scuze me while i go make a razor-using adept salad-shooter.

Yeah, it's a pretty nice advantage for implanted weaponry.

Another reason why Logan/Wolverine is so deadly.

So -- are characters required to puchase the off-hand weapon skill or not?

-Siege

Nope. The Ambidexterity Edge at level 6 or 8 will give you the same benefit as the Off-Hand Weapon skill.

So, if you _don't_ have Ambi at 6 or 8, the off-hand weapon skill is required?

-Siege

Well doubled, dikoted spurs could be fun with this. Although I think I'll still stick to Killing Hands since that doesn't set of the metal detectors.

Dual-wielded, Dikoted hand blades are even funnier. Coupled with some Nitro Boosted Cyclops Ghoul Adept Goodness, you can destroy any armored vehicles in melee. [Edit]Still can't sink ships, though, because even Corvettes have Hull 3 -> cannot do damage unless the Damage Level is Deadly + 1 Over-damage or more, which is unattainable with melee attacks.[/Edit]

Sounds like you've been improving the WALLHACKER!!!!!!21@!1 He used to be capable of destroying only small tanks, as I recall.

edit- well damn. Back to the drawing board, I guess.

The Wallhacker was improved slightly here, but the Wallhacker 2.0 never left the beta-stage. Compared to the 42S or more that should be quite easy to squeeze out, the original Wallhacker with his 25 dice/28M is quite pitiful.

Unfortunately it seems there's nothing one can do about sinking ships with anti-personnel weapons (which, oddly, the Wallhacker is still considered to be). Anything with Hull 3 or more is completely immune to anything non-AV, and at Hull 4 or more nothing but ASMs can touch the ship.

In what way?

in the way that they're both written down in black and white, and can be read by anyone with the books. how can it be anymore unclear?and the way the line developer stated that clearly and concisely how the rules interact, that just clouds the matter even further !!

Ok, ignoring Cochise and looking at the intelligent responses on the board...

Psst...it's ok to quote the rules as long as you're not posting the entire magic section, for example.

-Siege

I knew this would happen....

Anyways, I think you should get the dice if you spend the points on it. Period.

There's no reason why you shouldn't get the dice and there's no reason why you should have to take a penalty for slashing someone w/ you left hand (if you're right handed). That's like saying you should take a penalty when you punch some one w/ you left hand...

~shrugs~

(heh. that does feel pretty good)

I agree. the main punch used in boxing is the jab-an offhand attack. maybe if i was using a weapon that wasn't coming out of my own body, but spurs and such IMO are an extension of the body, and would be used so.

well, the point of that jab isn't really to hurt the guy; it's to occupy his attention and force an opening in his defenses, so you can clobber him with your good hand.

that said, it's still silly to penalize someone for using their off hand in tandem with their dominant hand, during melee combat. i might penalize someone for only using their off-hand, but not for using both.