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hobgoblin
QUOTE (Karoline @ May 4 2010, 07:51 PM) *
Get a modified version that does have a body of three biggrin.gif

hmm, where did that body mod rule show up again?

and such a mod, if it helps in mod slots, could also help with the need to add increased range to make it a true cruise missile...
Karoline
In Arsenal, don't remember exactly where, but it mentions that different versions of the same vehicle often exist, so you can play around with the numbers a little bit. Don't think you can adjust the number of mod slots though. Let me look for the exact page real quick.

Edit: p 106-107 in arsenal.
Dumori
IIRC thers also the mod that ups body a point per lvl synner said it was going to be put it the etarta at some point as well.
hobgoblin
at this point i am starting to wonder if we are better of modding the nimrod with a self destruct or something similar.
Dumori
Probabley If we go that way we could give it a RL and fire heimdalls as well....
hobgoblin
indeed. Should make things interesting wink.gif
Udoshi
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 4 2010, 11:48 AM) *
sadly, i rechecked the rules on that, and it seems that anything below a body of 3 can't have a weapon mount.

that is, if i understand the "body/3, round down" correctly.


Per arsenal 147, thats round up.Which lets any small drone(non-mini or micro, since Weapon Mount is a Standard mod) have a gun.
Karoline
QUOTE (Udoshi @ May 4 2010, 09:15 PM) *
Per arsenal 147, thats round up.Which lets any small drone(non-mini or micro, since Weapon Mount is a Standard mod) have a gun.


Didn't that get errataed to round down?
Sengir
The original 4th Ed book said "round down", then came Arsenal and said "round up", and the most recent addition is 4A which says "round down" again. Logically there are good arguments for both, so just flip a coin wink.gif
Dumori
Weapon mounts are standard mods thus can be installed on the very small drones. It's round up in aresnal beacause of this round down in SR4A as it lacks these rulings.
Karoline
QUOTE
p. 105 Vehicle Weapons and Recoil
Replace “weapon mount with an LMG onto a small drone
with a body rating of 2 (cat-sized)” with “weapon mount with
HMG on a compact drone with a body rating of 3 (humansized)”


Sounds to me like they intended to switch it to round down, but forgot to actually put it in the errata since they changed the example to specifically work with round down.
Dumori
Or theres no body standard drone. I'm AFB but ill look it up.
KarmaInferno
QUOTE (Dumori @ May 4 2010, 03:47 PM) *
Probabley If we go that way we could give it a RL and fire heimdalls as well....


Wait, a Heimdall that fires Heimdalls?

Sup dawg, we heard you like blowing stuff up, so we put a Heimdall in your Heimdall so you can shoot rockets while you shoot rockets.



-np
Karoline
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ May 5 2010, 09:46 PM) *
Wait, a Heimdall that fires Heimdalls?




-np

Each of which then fire four more Heimdalls. Go go cluster rockets.
Falconer
A lot of people don't realize a multi-launch drone rack counts as a single weapon mount. That's one way to get a load of Heimdalls in place. (or even a partial load w/ other small drones loaded as well)

Though it's text also says it can be loaded into a normal missile/rocket launcher. So you could go the reinforced weapon mount route, mount a rocket/missile launcher in it, with it's normal magazine as well. Gives the option of firing cheaper non-drone missiles though.


Though the heimdall always struck me as a little too small for a cruise missile. For that I'd resort to the Kull... the aerial resupply drone w/ a little bit of stealth, and a lot of payload. What do you put in that payload... high explosives of course! (that would be a fun demolitions check... what's the 'warhead' strength). It's not as fast, but in terms of endurance and range.. it'd deliver a large payload able to wreck something big.


Then again, I always thought a multi-launch drone rack loaded w/ even smaller drones (no rocket, just gravity + guidance) sorta like guided mortar rounds dropped from a airborne vehicle would make a great weapon. Especially if you use a weapon mount to fit something like a LMG w/ underbarrel designator in a turret.
Karoline
QUOTE (Falconer @ May 5 2010, 10:19 PM) *
Then again, I always thought a multi-launch drone rack loaded w/ even smaller drones (no rocket, just gravity + guidance) sorta like guided mortar rounds dropped from a airborne vehicle would make a great weapon. Especially if you use a weapon mount to fit something like a LMG w/ underbarrel designator in a turret.


You mean like... a bomb?
Falconer
The problem is the only bomb in the books is the monster aztechnology dumb iron bomb, which requires a special mount at that. There's nothing smaller w/ a grenade/rocket/mortar level explosive yield.

My thought is load like 10 guided mortar warheads or guided grenades into the multi-launch rack (which uses a single weapon mount slot and offers a LOT of flexibility). Then just activate and drop them.


That's also the problem w/ using the heimdall sort of like the club-K.. yeah nice range, and blazingly fast. But at the end of the day the warhead is only that of an RPG and will barely blow a hole in the side of most SR buildings. Which is the reason I suggested the suicide Kull.
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