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KarmaInferno
I would expect it to come up more during product trials as clueless test audiences ask, "But, doesn't G come AFTER D?"





-karma
knasser
Basically, to native English speakers, "Gam" is a weak uvular plosive whilst "De" is a nice strong alveolar plosive. Delta brings to mind an arrowhead or a sleek stealth fighter, Gamma has no shape or even solidity. Delta is an "English" word, Gamma sounds "foreign." Delta Force are tough. Gamma Force ain't. Delta is dynamic, it is change. Gamma is oscillating or at best, a curve. Delta is masculine and brawny. Gamma sounds like yo'mamma.

Shadowrun wouldn't be the dystopian future it is, if Marketing Departments didn't have more influence than Engineering.

K.
Moto42 Again
Three pages about a decision that took some writer about 5 seconds to make.
Yerameyahu
Not to split hairs, but 'g' is velar, not uvular. If you pronounce 'gamma' with a uvular, maybe you're from the Middle East. smile.gif

Not like it matters: no one says that 'gun' is a 'weak' word.
knasser
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 5 2010, 11:30 PM) *
Not to split hairs, but 'g' is velar, not uvular. If you pronounce 'gamma' with a uvular, maybe you're from the Middle East. smile.gif


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Yerameyahu
Hehehe. smile.gif I'm just saying, it sounds more like marketing gabble than real psycholinguistics.
Tachi
QUOTE (knasser @ Jun 5 2010, 12:43 AM) *
Most modern Americans couldn't tell the order of the first few letters of the Greek alphabet. I doubt that improved in the future of Shadowrun.

Easy there Knasser, I know a few hundered of my fellow Americans who resemble that remark. rotfl.gif
Dynamo Dave
Its really only missing because its kinda pointless. The price difference between it and delta would make it something youd only bother getting if you were poor, but thats what beta and alpha gear is really for. The difference in essence loss would also make delta look a lot less attractive, so theres strike two.

Basically gammaware would either make deltaware more lame or deltaware would make gammaware look more lame. Either way you wind up with a whole lot of lame.
Yerameyahu
Well, greater granularity of choice is always better. It's just not a compelling problem (the lack of something between beta and delta).
AKWeaponsSpecialist
So, you're asking where Gamma-ware is but Necromancy doesn't bother you? Interesting. -mancy, as I recall, is greek for divination (Pyromancers divine with fire, necromancy consult the dead, etc) whereas -urgy is working (Theo+urgy Theurgy, God-worker, one they got right). Sure, it's not accurate to have delta be after beta, but at the same time, call dead-workers "Necrurgists" and see what kind of looks you'll get
IKerensky
QUOTE (AKWeaponsSpecialist @ Jun 7 2010, 12:19 AM) *
So, you're asking where Gamma-ware is but Necromancy doesn't bother you? Interesting. -mancy, as I recall, is greek for divination (Pyromancers divine with fire, necromancy consult the dead, etc) whereas -urgy is working (Theo+urgy Theurgy, God-worker, one they got right). Sure, it's not accurate to have delta be after beta, but at the same time, call dead-workers "Necrurgists" and see what kind of looks you'll get


Dont get me started on Necromancy...

I desesperatly try to make the french translator understand that a Nethermancer is not a Necromancer but they choose to translate like it is frown.gif

I bet Necromancer spent a lot of time consulting/talking with their undead minions to make them understand what they want wink.gif
IKerensky
QUOTE (Bull @ Jun 5 2010, 07:59 AM) *
To be fair, I'd bet that's relatively common in a lot of places, not just the US. And honestly, no reason why the average American should know it. It's not something that needs to be known, or is something that most people would ever actually use, and AFAIK isn't in the standard school curriculum.

But yes, that's likely to get even worse as time goes on.

But, for your example above? If anyone would know it in Shadowrun, I'd bet a doctor would. Greek and Latin both come up quite a bit in medical terminology, I believe.

Bull


Well, it is definitely not so much an ancient language problem than a advanced math and computing problem.

Here I live the use of Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta (and rarely Epsilon) is very common in math and especially geometry at school and high school. When you name a triangle angle they are alway Alpha, Beta and Gamma...
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