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Voran
At least they aren't tentacles.
CanRay
That would be a different portion of the fetish porn market.
Tiny Deev
I uh, thought of another deformaty for you. How about giving someone breasts instead of butt-cheeks? I think a lot of people would watch that person take a dump... Now translate that into a negative quality.
killfr3nzy
I think having to see that would give me a Negative Quality.
TommyTwoToes
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 20 2010, 08:47 AM) *
That would be a different portion of the fetish porn market.

But very big in Japan, and so probably not a negative quality.
killfr3nzy
Well, it'd probably still reduce your Physical Actions, trying to keep multiple tentacle-wangs secure and undamaged. You'd either have them in a giant, strangely-shaped cup, or be constantly paranoid about somebody aiming for one.
Plus Japanese, for all their wierd fetishes, are quite uptight in public. So it'd depend on the situation, just like Lumonescant & Lowlight means never having to buy an Eye-Light System.
CanRay
Also, having tentacle-wangs is a good reason not to pick fights with Katana-Weilding Schoolgirls. Especially if they're in a school uniform. nyahnyah.gif
TommyTwoToes
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 20 2010, 11:07 AM) *
Also, having tentacle-wangs is a good reason not to pick fights with Katana-Weilding Schoolgirls. Especially if they're in a school uniform. nyahnyah.gif

I think it also means you are doomed to die in almost every story. Usually because of the forementioned Katana-Weilding Schoolgirls. Hmmm now to make a Katana Weilding Schoolgirl phys ad.
Dwight
Credit for heading off into tentacle porn territory. But nearly 60 posts and no mention yet of the Pornomancer in conjunction with penalties for duel wielding weapons? question.gif You disappoint, Dumpshock!
Voran
That...actually made me throw up a little.
Squiddy Attack
Oh, so it's an attack that induces Nausea. biggrin.gif
Mäx
QUOTE (killfr3nzy @ Aug 20 2010, 06:03 PM) *
So it'd depend on the situation, just like Lumonescant & Lowlight means never having to buy an Eye-Light System.

I thought about that and then desided i rather get cybereyes with eye-light system for my characters then have them glow in the dark as that would mean the enemies could also see me easier.
killfr3nzy
QUOTE (Dwight @ Aug 21 2010, 12:35 AM) *
Credit for heading off into tentacle porn territory. But nearly 60 posts and no mention yet of the Pornomancer in conjunction with penalties for duel wielding weapons? question.gif You disappoint, Dumpshock!


Ah, Dwight, my unimaginative friend, they are not two weapons, but a single, pronged entity! Why did you think the sexually-uptight Church cast the Devil with both a horned 'tail' and a 'pitchfork'?
Eh? Eh? *nudge*

QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 21 2010, 02:24 AM) *
I thought about that and then desided i rather get cybereyes with eye-light system for my characters then have them glow in the dark as that would mean the enemies could also see me easier.

Oh, of course. It's the same as being Neurologically unable to smell, and going "Well, at least I can live in the sewers without a respirator".
Just because there's a silver lining doesn't mean it isn't terrible.
Dwight
QUOTE (killfr3nzy @ Aug 20 2010, 01:03 PM) *
Ah, Dwight, my unimaginative friend, they are not two weapons, but a single, pronged entity! Why did you think the sexually-uptight Church cast the Devil with both a horned 'tail' and a 'pitchfork'?
Eh? Eh? *nudge*


You are implying a situation of one in the pink and on...oh man, this thread is so headed to the wrong places. Er, I mean...

"Phrasing, please!"- Sterling Archer
Voran
QUOTE (Squiddy Attack @ Aug 20 2010, 02:21 PM) *
Oh, so it's an attack that induces Nausea. biggrin.gif


I almost said 'that made me gag a little' but then I realized how big a mistake that would have been. You perverts.
Badmoodguy88
Well if you are really set on a groin related disadvantage. Take this one from gurps

Eunuch -5 points
You (male characters only) have lost your manhood, either
through accident or hostile action. You are immune to seduction,
and cannot seduce others. Anyone aware of your
condition will have a -1 on reaction rolls.

that translates to -5bp and -1 to social tests fairly smoothly.

Anyone taking this trait is a sure fast sign that they are hitting the min maxing with a little bit to much gusto.
CanRay
And Captain Jack Sparrow makes fun of you. Constantly.
Dwight
QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 20 2010, 07:20 PM) *
You are immune to seduction, and cannot seduce others.


The surgically make you a mute, too?
CanRay
QUOTE (Dwight @ Aug 20 2010, 08:50 PM) *
The surgically make you a mute, too?

No, lack of inclination.
Glyph
QUOTE (Mäx @ Aug 20 2010, 04:13 AM) *
I dont know, you can pretty easily hide all of the hair ones, just cut your hair to short and fear a hat or cut it away completdly.
Hair color one is easily hided with contact lenses.
And so on...

They must be pretty good contact lenses, to hide hair color. rotfl.gif

If that happened in a game where I was GMing, I would just dock Karma until they had paid off the flaw. I mean, there are a lot of flaws that could easily be gotten rid of by getting surgery, quitting your day job, etc. But generally, if you lose a flaw, you are expected to pay the Karma for it.
Yerameyahu
If you're just hiding the hair color, there's no reason to do anything silly with karma. That's for permanent flaw removal.
Glyph
Someone occasionally wearing a hat or wig to be inconspicuous isn't bad, but if you are disguising your hair 24/7, then it really isn't a flaw any more.
Yerameyahu
As long as your hat could be removed, it's not a permanent flaw removal, though. Not that those lame SURGE 'flaws' are drawbacks anyway. wink.gif
Badmoodguy88
Gamma World first edition had some seriously powerful good mutations and seriously crippling bad mutations all rolled randomly. Latter editions toned this down but I think it took away from the charm of the system.

It was possible to roll a character so hopelessly crippled that the character was put out of its misery before the game even began.

Poordual brain is kind of a interesting one.
This is a second brain which handicaps the function of the primary brain. It may take over at odd times, have several defects, or even counteract the mental powers of the good brain.

This would be like a split personality that sometimes comes up during combat or other situations. It would have a few mental flaws, lower mental stats, a few different skills, and lower resistance to magic.
V-Origin
QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 19 2010, 05:43 AM) *
Pattyhulez go ahead and add deformity (enormous penis) to the list of things you are no longer allowed to do in shadowrun. You deserve to be the one who adds it.

Though really there hast to be a whole slew of surge powers that could be taken in penile form, they are just all obscene. embarrassed.gif facelick.gif

Really the list could go on and on and on. silly.gif


To be frank, I would prefer multiple tits to multiple penises..

But then someone here might ask for multiple tits and multiple penises in the same character..

I wonder how many BPs can one get out of that..

It will be a Real Definite Deformity Negative Quality.
killfr3nzy
Then you'd have people taking penisi and breasti in the same organ-set, making you eligable for the 'No, just...No' Quality.

Of course, why leave Surgelings with all the fun? Case-mod'd Snake Fingers spring to (filthy) mind.
Traul
Who said snake fingers have to be installed in fingers?
Voran
Heh, how likely you think we'd be able to have this conversation on the 'official' forums?
killfr3nzy
Well, if we go by accepted 'fact' that the official forums would quickly fill with horny pre-pubescants, it would probably start many, many times.
CanRay
QUOTE (killfr3nzy @ Aug 21 2010, 08:02 AM) *
Well, if we go by accepted 'fact' that the official forums would quickly fill with horny pre-pubescants, it would probably start many, many times.

*Shudders* "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

...

Damnit! I'm old!!!
Voran
Get off my lawn!
CanRay
*Rocks in a rocking chair with a fully-automatic shotgun*
killfr3nzy
Sometimes I forget to act my age. frown.gif
More often, I can't remember my age, or how I got here.
"Who are you? Is this my house? Get off this lawn!"
*Settles into his leather lawn-chair, easing his aching joints and resting a LAW accross his knees.*
Traul
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 21 2010, 03:15 PM) *
*Rocks in a rocking chair with a fully-automatic shotgun*

This cannot end well...

"$£!§* recoil! Somebody help me up!"
KCKitsune
QUOTE (Traul @ Aug 21 2010, 09:01 AM) *
This cannot end well...

"$£!§* recoil! Somebody help me up!"

Actually the AA-12 has very little recoil. Look it up on YouTube.

Mac on Future Weapons shoots one and it doesn't seem to have much recoil at all.
CanRay
AA-12, best gopher gun I've heard of yet.

Of course, I also want a cannon.

Anyhow, back to deformities... Hey, how about looking old to an Elf. That would be a deformity!
killfr3nzy
Troll with Neotony = large-human-sized? Could be somewhat beneficial, although losing 2 PT sucks ass.
Dwight
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 20 2010, 07:53 PM) *
No, lack of inclination.

Seduction can be for sex as the means, not the purpose. Cutting off someone's testicles does NOT make them loath the touch of a woman (or man if that's their thing).
KarmaInferno
QUOTE (killfr3nzy @ Aug 21 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Troll with Neotony = large-human-sized? Could be somewhat beneficial, although losing 2 PT sucks ass.


No.

A baby. The size of a Buick.




-karma
Yerameyahu
It's just a minmax flaw for GURPS, what do you expect? smile.gif
CanRay
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Aug 21 2010, 12:32 PM) *
No.

A baby. The size of a Buick.

-karma

A baby, that can pick up said Buick and beat you with it!

...

Hey, who owns Buick in Shadowrun? Let's see, it's a GM line, so probably Ares.
Nerdynick
Just to inject some educational material into this thread, having two penises is a condition called Diphallia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphallia
CanRay
Educational? Intelligent? Dumpshockers crave not these things!
Draco18s
QUOTE (Nerdynick @ Aug 21 2010, 08:52 PM) *
Just to inject some educational material into this thread, having two penises is a condition called Diphallia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphallia



"There have been many cases of diphallia males leading excellent sexual lives able to have full penile vaginal intercourse."

I wonder why! biggrin.gif

Oh hey, another deformity of this nature (and is it a bad thing that there's a slang term--"cunt-boy"--for something akin to this? Is it a bad thing that I know that? Is it a bad thing that I've seen furry porn of it?)
Badmoodguy88
Yeah they do a lot of sex reassignment and genital modification at infancy that happens to some of these people who have some of these rare conditions. It is not like it could not wait for them to get older. It does not really matter what genitals a child has, they are not using them for anything but excreting waste. I forget the name of it but there is one condition where the clitoris is just abnormaly large. This is not even what would be considered a hermaphrodite but apparently it looks a little male on an infant. In the USA and probably a few other places the child is not allowed to leave the hospital until they are on the birth certificate as either male or female. So the standard procedure for many years was basically to cut it off and reshape what is left into a normal clitoris. But that person would grow up and never be able to enjoy sex normally and probably never know why either and nothing can ever fix it. Horrific in my mind. frown.gif
killfr3nzy
Like most bad things, my mind rates that as 'terrible' and will commence immediate deletation from short-term memory.

Neotenised Troll: Using the information from the 'Metavarient Variations' table in Runners Companion...
Race.........Avg Height
Human.........1.75m
Dwarf...........1.20m
Gnome.........0.80m
Troll.............2.50m

A Gnome is a Neotenised Dwarf, coming in at 0.66/two-thirds the height of the latter.
Subjecting a Troll to the same calculation (2.5xo.66) outputs 1.65meters, well within Human outliers. Some Biosculpting and you can pass for a muscle-bound Human (or a huge Elf), which would probably aid your employment prospects.
Considering Body/Strength 2-Mages and 9-Sammies pay the same price for armour, wield the same weapons without customization, and fit into the same volume in an enclosed space (Vehicles, I'm looking at you), your average-to-taller Troll that suffers from Neoteny should follow the normal rules.

Of course, a real minmax'er would just say he had a really small Troll and try it anyway. But that's how they role (wink, nudge).
Draco18s
QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 22 2010, 01:34 AM) *
In the USA and probably a few other places the child is not allowed to leave the hospital until they are on the birth certificate as either male or female. So the standard procedure for many years was basically to cut it off and reshape what is left into a normal clitoris. But that person would grow up and never be able to enjoy sex normally and probably never know why either and nothing can ever fix it. Horrific in my mind. frown.gif


Write down "female" and ship them off?
Badmoodguy88
Indeed or just walk the baby out and screw the hospital.

There are a lot of F'd up practices that used to happen and some that still do. It just gets you depressed to think about.

One case that was in the news a number of years ago that stuck in my mind. The child was born an actual hermaphrodite which means basically nothing worked. A penis, something like a vagina, one shriveled up testicle and one that was fully functional. Normally they would do sex reassignment and make the baby a girl, turning the penis into a clitoris and amputating the testicle, but the mother was dead set on her child being a boy. The doctor is really trying to convince the family to do the change because for many years this was the practice. He was trying to do what he thought was right. So they do a biopsy to check to see that the testis are healthy because apparently they can turn cancerous if they are abnormal. The plan was to remove the shrived one and keep other one if it looks healthy when they do the the exploratory surgery but to remove it wile they are in there if it looks bad. The doctor removes both. The family look at the records of the procedure and there was no reason to remove the second testi. It was healthy. The family took legal action against the doctor. The kid now has to take hormones for the rest of his life and can't have kids. I just hope he grew up to be one of the men that wishes they were women. Otherwise it really sucks for that guy. But medical malpractice is never fun. Congenital defects always suck. It just kind of gets to me for some reason.
CanRay
QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Aug 22 2010, 02:48 AM) *
Indeed or just walk the baby out and screw the hospital.

There are a lot of F'd up practices that used to happen and some that still do. It just gets you depressed to think about.

Like how you then wouldn't have a birth certificate and all the problems that makes. (Or, almost as bad, have to get one doing the paperwork yourself.).
Badmoodguy88
lol minor concerns in the grand scheme of things, but it could be justification to be sinless in 2070. smile.gif
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