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Grinchy McScrooge
Character sheet and background available here.

He still needs a street name, which I'm completely stumped on. Please make any suggestions you'd like. I wanted to give him a bicycle, but I don't know of any rules/stats for them in SR4. I didn't touch Way of the Adept because I wasn't sure if you would allow it. I won't bother to calculate starting cash until his lifestyle is finalized and approved.
Redjack
Ok. Recruiting is now closed.
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Raven the Trickster
Ok, I can rework him as an elf, it'll give me more points to put in other things.
Redjack
One down. Five to go. Statuses are updated two posts above.
When posting characters, please use the format I did above for Almost Normal's character. It makes it go much faster for me.

-Thanks!

PS: I've not previously allowed the optional "More Ways to Die" rules from Arsenal (aka advanced martial arts rules). I will look those over and make an updated decision over the next few days.
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (Redjack @ May 9 2012, 09:41 AM) *
PS: I've not previously allowed the optional "More Ways to Die" rules from Arsenal (aka advanced martial arts rules). I will look those over and make an updated decision over the next few days.

Sorry, my group always used those rules in SR3, so I didn't even think to ask you. If you want me to rework the character, it's not a problem.


QUOTE (Redjack @ May 9 2012, 09:41 AM) *
When posting characters, please use the format I did above for Almost Normal's character. It makes it go much faster for me.

Here is my character sheet, reformatted for your perusal. smile.gif

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Redjack
QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ May 9 2012, 10:07 AM) *
Here is my character sheet, reformatted for your perusal. smile.gif
Thanks! that made it so easy to check.
Couple of points:
1) Positive and Negative Qualities are limited to 35/-35. You have 42pts of positive qualities.
2) You are very light on contacts. Those really add depth to a pbp.
3) Martial Arts. As stated, I've not allowed those rules in the past, but I am will to compromise as the cost seems to balance the advantage.

How about something like:
5 Adept
5 Night Vision
5 School of Hard Knocks
15 Martial Arts III (Kung Fu: +1dp Block in Melee, +1dp Dodge in Melee, +1 DV Unarmed Attack)
2 Martial Arts Maneuver: ??

10 additional BP for contacts

Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (Redjack @ May 9 2012, 12:33 PM) *
Couple of points:
1) Positive and Negative Qualities are limited to 35/-35. You have 42pts of positive qualities.
2) You are very light on contacts. Those really add depth to a pbp.
3) Martial Arts. As stated, I've not allowed those rules in the past, but I am will to compromise as the cost seems to balance the advantage.


I'll play with the character a bit and see what I can come up with. I already have one new contact, a Buddhist monk who has taken him under his wing, and I'll try to find at least one more. I'm also going to flesh out nature/culture of the building he lives in and they people he shares the space with. An appropriately interesting old-world atmosphere is what I'm aiming for.

I'll tone down the Martial Arts expenditure. I'm in the process of re-tweaking the character sheet and backstory. Do you think the Wanted quality is too strong? I was a little worried about it unbalancing the story you already have in progress. As alternatives I was considering Bad Rep, the notoriety being for what happened with the Triad in Hong Kong, and/or Big Regret, for the his brutal actions and the karma he's brought upon himself.

Do you have any other suggestions?
Thanee
QUOTE (Redjack @ May 9 2012, 06:33 PM) *
1) Positive and Negative Qualities are limited to 35/-35. You have 42pts of positive qualities.


Maneuvers are not Qualities, so it is just 30, actually.

Bye
Thanee
Redjack
QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ May 9 2012, 12:41 PM) *
I'll play with the character a bit and see what I can come up with. I already have one new contact, a Buddhist monk who has taken him under his wing, and I'll try to find at least one more. I'm also going to flesh out nature/culture of the building he lives in and they people he shares the space with. An appropriately interesting old-world atmosphere is what I'm aiming for.

I'll tone down the Martial Arts expenditure. I'm in the process of re-tweaking the character sheet and backstory. Do you think the Wanted quality is too strong? I was a little worried about it unbalancing the story you already have in progress. As alternatives I was considering Bad Rep, the notoriety being for what happened with the Triad in Hong Kong, and/or Big Regret, for the his brutal actions and the karma he's brought upon himself.

Do you have any other suggestions?
The Wanted is fine.
Also, it may not have been clear, but the free fixer is the one already active in the game: It will either be Kilroy for the Puyallups or Stump in Redmond.
Raven the Trickster
This guy has been a bit harder to rewrite and retweak than I expected, but I think I've got a handle on him now.

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I'm still in the process of doing a full rewrite on his history, since the character was originally a Hamilton born Shapeshifter and is now a NAN born Elf.
phlapjack77
Bob
accepted and posting

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Redjack
QUOTE (Raven the Trickster @ May 9 2012, 07:28 PM) *
This guy has been a bit harder to rewrite and retweak than I expected, but I think I've got a handle on him now.
Looks pretty good. One little thing: He is 33,720 nuyen.gif overspent. I note that if you have to make a driving test, you have a 2dp. The latter, of course, is ok if you are ok with it. Looks like you are pretty close to IC.
Raven the Trickster
Did I forget to include the 7BP for gear in the character section? I have it in my build, so everything should add up properly if I put that back in. With that everything adds up properly on my spreadsheet.
Redjack
QUOTE (Raven the Trickster @ May 10 2012, 06:36 AM) *
Did I forget to include the 7BP for gear in the character section? I have it in my build, so everything should add up properly if I put that back in. With that everything adds up properly on my spreadsheet.
No, I have 7bp (35,000 nuyen.gif ) for equipment. That simply puts your build points to 401 bp. As a note, the only place I have 1 bp is where you bumped your fixer's loyalty from a 1 to a 2.
Redjack
Recruiting is closed.
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Almost Normal -> Moses: Mundane Male Human Detective
Done and posting.

phlapjack77 -> Bob Hoskins: Male Human Detective Mage
Next Step: Repsond to review of character sheet - phlapjack77

Grinchy McScrooge -> Ho "Chǔnán" Feng: Male Human Physical Adept
Done.

Sengir -> Hardwire: Male Ork Tecnomancer
Next Step: Character Sheet - Sengir

Mister Shed -> ?: Male Ork Bear Shaman
Next Step: A history that includes the contacts or answer one of the variations of 20 questions. - Mister Shed

Raven the Trickster -> Galen "Stormcrow" Blackfeather: Male Elven Crow Shaman
Next Step: History. - Raven

Aria -> Natalie Adams : Female Cat Burglary Adept
Next Step: History. - Aria
Raven the Trickster
doh, I thought I fixed that. Ok, Loyalty on the street dealer should have been dropped to 1 rather than 2, that's where I originally got the extra point, guess I just screwed up when I transferred it over. I'll update the above with the correction.
Redjack
EDIT: Wrong player. Doh!
Grinchy McScrooge
I'm just finishing up tweaking my character sheet and background info. I'm trying to spend the last of my Nuyen and I have a question: Does anybody know what an Urban Explorer Jumpsuit actually looks like? The description doesn't conjure up a relatable image in my mind. I've tried searching the forum and Google, but can't find anything.
almost normal
Figure it's a parkour outfit.
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (almost normal @ May 10 2012, 03:03 PM) *
Figure it's a parkour outfit.

Huh. That makes a hell of a lot more sense than anything I've ever managed to come up with. Thanks! smile.gif
almost normal
NP buddy. Figure I better be nice to the folks I'll likely end up working with.
Grinchy McScrooge
Here is my updated character in his entirety. The main changes are in Qualities, Contacts, Equipment, and History.

EDIT: Starting cred is 160¥.

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Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (almost normal @ May 10 2012, 03:08 PM) *
NP buddy. Figure I better be nice to the folks I'll likely end up working with.

It's much appreciated. Never hurts to build up a little dharma in a business like ours. wink.gif
Dr.Rockso
Aww. Saw this too late frown.gif

Please let me know if another spot opens up; sounds real interesting.
almost normal
QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ May 10 2012, 04:09 PM) *
It's much appreciated. Never hurts to build up a little dharma in a business like ours. wink.gif


Oddly enough, if you do a google image search for "parkour jumpsuit", the second row of images is Bruce Lee's iconic yellow jumpsuit.

And yeah, Sorry Doc. Not sure what to say to comfort you, but it would have been nice having you around.
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (almost normal @ May 10 2012, 04:37 PM) *
Oddly enough, if you do a google image search for "parkour jumpsuit", the second row of images is Bruce Lee's iconic yellow jumpsuit.


Heh, so it is. I decided not to go with it for now. It's a pretty powerful set of armour (B:6 I:6), which could have an unbalancing effect on the game. As well, my character is supposed to have been freshly smuggled in, so he's lucky to have found the equipment he's already got.
almost normal
It's your call, and I applaud you for it; it's just been my experience that Melee characters tend to take the brunt of the damage being chucked around, having to run into the thick of things and such.
Grinchy McScrooge
True enough, but I know that Redjack wanted balanced characters, so I've been careful not to turn him into a combat monster. My current armour rating is 3/3, which I figure is decent for a starting character. I hope. *fingers crossed*
Redjack
QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge @ May 10 2012, 04:07 PM) *
Here is my updated character in his entirety. The main changes are in Qualities, Contacts, Equipment, and History.
Approved.
IC Post is up.
Redjack
Recruiting is closed.
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Almost Normal -> Moses: Mundane Male Human Detective
Done and posting.

Grinchy McScrooge -> Ho "Chǔnán" Feng: Male Human Physical Adept
Done.

phlapjack77 -> Bob Hoskins: Male Human Detective Mage
Next Step: Respond to re-review of character sheet - phlapjack77

Sengir -> Hardwire: Male Ork Tecnomancer
Next Step: Character Sheet - Sengir

Mister Shed -> ?: Male Ork Bear Shaman
Next Step: A history that includes the contacts or answer one of the variations of 20 questions. - Mister Shed

Raven the Trickster -> Galen "Stormcrow" Blackfeather: Male Elven Crow Shaman
Next Step: History. - Raven

Aria -> Natalie Adams : Female Cat Burglary Adept
Next Step: Character Sheet. - Aria
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (Redjack @ May 11 2012, 12:03 AM) *
Approved.
IC Post is up.

First post is up. Starting cred is 160¥. And I've removed the accents from my character's street name, cuz they weren't playing well with word processor. So just Chunan will do. smokin.gif
almost normal
Awesome. What's the significance on the number?
Sengir
Not 100% done bloody Karma sinking TMs), but I figure advanced enough for GM review:

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Couple of points:
- Do you track standard ammo expeditures?
- I do consider Sensitive System without any 'ware ok, since forsaking a whole area of advancement clearly is a disadvantage. YMMV
- The idea for the Dragonflies is to lace their "set of vibro-blade pincers" with Narcoject as a nonlethal takedown
- The Smartgun is for the Doberman, which will typically stay at home
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (almost normal @ May 11 2012, 11:42 AM) *
Awesome. What's the significance on the number?


Are you referring to the 160¥? or my IC post?
almost normal
Your post, the 74, specifically.
Grinchy McScrooge
QUOTE (almost normal @ May 11 2012, 12:14 PM) *
Your post, the 74, specifically.

It can be taken to mean Certain Death. Now, keep in mind that I don't actually know Cantonese. I'm working from the sidebars in Runner Havens (pg. 8 ) and Vice (pg. 67), as well as Google and Wikipedia, all blended into oneness with my own personal judgement (patent-pending). There are many possible interpretations in Chinese numerology, if you believe the net, and it gets even worse if you start taking Mandarin into account, so I'm mainly working with the SR books because I can plausibly argue that they reflect 2070's interpretations. devil.gif
Redjack
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- Do you track standard ammo expeditures?
I do not track REG/GEL if your necessities are Middle or above.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- I do consider Sensitive System without any 'ware ok, since forsaking a whole area of advancement clearly is a disadvantage. YMMV
Not nearly so much as taking a racial minimum on an attribute. Given that this character is a technomancer, I will allow both.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- The idea for the Dragonflies is to lace their "set of vibro-blade pincers" with Narcoject as a nonlethal takedown
Cool idea. I like it.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- The Smartgun is for the Doberman, which will typically stay at home
Ok. It only applies when you are jumped in.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
Not 100% done bloody Karma sinking TMs), but I figure advanced enough for GM review:
Several notes:
1) You only spent 23 of your 27 skill points for knowledge skills.

2) You are at 402bp and your contact costs are not correct. (Rating + Loyalty = BP Cost)
QUOTE (Runner's Companion @ 126)
Matrix resources are those that exceed the scope of a typical commlink and a Matrix address. Groups with an active Matrix presence run a well-known and well-established node dedicated to their specific interests. Those with broad reaching resources are involved with a range of different Matrix nodes across multiple grids. Pervasive Matrix integration refers to groups whose Matrix presence is intrinsic to the Matrix–they might have a spyware utility that commonly runs on most nodes, or they might be involved in the design of common Matrix hardware.

3) Let's discuss the group. Group contacts Matrix value also represents the power they can bring to bear, like the magic value does. I would see that a little higher; minimum of 2.

4) The low number of forms concern me for your effectiveness with this character. I feel that you will get frustrated with the matrix without more forms. If you consciously recognize that though, I will allow it. smile.gif

almost normal
If you don't mind a little friendly help, I'd suggest bumping your software up by one, specialize threading, then broaden your CFs to incorporate biofeedback, armor, attack, black, sniffer, and decrypt at the very least. Even a 1 rating will be a big improvement when you thread up an improved form.
Redjack
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- Do you track standard ammo expeditures?
I do not track REG/GEL if your necessities are Middle or above.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- I do consider Sensitive System without any 'ware ok, since forsaking a whole area of advancement clearly is a disadvantage. YMMV
Not nearly so much as taking a racial minimum on an attribute. Given that this character is a technomancer, I will allow both.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- The idea for the Dragonflies is to lace their "set of vibro-blade pincers" with Narcoject as a nonlethal takedown
Cool idea. I like it.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
- The Smartgun is for the Doberman, which will typically stay at home
Ok. It only applies when you are jumped in.
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 09:43 AM) *
Not 100% done bloody Karma sinking TMs), but I figure advanced enough for GM review:
Several notes:
1) You only spent 23 of your 27 skill points for knowledge skills.

2) You are at 402bp and your contact costs are not correct. (Rating + Loyalty = BP Cost)
[quote=Runner's Companion,126]Matrix resources are those that exceed
almost normal
Dare I sense an edit coming on?
Sengir
QUOTE (Redjack @ May 11 2012, 07:36 PM) *
I do not track REG/GEL if your necessities are Middle or above.

Heh, good thing I took middle Necessities

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Several notes:
1) You only spent 23 of your 27 skill points for knowledge skills.

2) You are at 402bp and your contact costs are not correct. (Rating + Loyalty = BP Cost)

Yep, it's WIP and has some rough edges...a Doberman with a two old Cyberarms sounded cool but is too expensive, 3 BP for a car with little game relevance are bad, and some other things

I have no idea what I did with the Contacts, though...

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3) Let's discuss the group. Group contacts Matrix value also represents the power they can bring to bear, like the magic value does. I would see that a little higher; minimum of 2.

My line of thinking with Group Contacts is "what does this offer that a single contact (e.g. hacker) doesn't?" but ok, we're discussing 1 BP here wink.gif

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4) The low number of forms concern me for your effectiveness with this character. I feel that you will get frustrated with the matrix without more forms. If you consciously recognize that though, I will allow it.

Ah, the old question of TMs and what CFs to buy. For the start I prefer a few important ones at max rating and threading the rest or letting Sprites do the job. Although a few points in Shield are on the todo list, a fried brain is always bad wink.gif
Redjack
QUOTE (Sengir @ May 11 2012, 04:07 PM) *
Yep, it's WIP and has some rough edges...a Doberman with a two old Cyberarms sounded cool but is too expensive, 3 BP for a car with little game relevance are bad, and some other things
Just let me know when its ready.
Sengir
Now I hope:

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Raven the Trickster
And to finish off mine

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Raven the Trickster
Ok, incredibly minor change to equipment, just switching the Indian Pathfinder to a Norton Countess (one of the similar models) since I put that in before I planned on making this guy a member of the NAN.
Redjack
Recruiting is closed.
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Almost Normal -> Moses: Mundane Male Human Detective
Done and posting.

Grinchy McScrooge -> Ho "Chǔnán" Feng: Male Human Physical Adept
Done and posting.

phlapjack77 -> Bob Hoskins: Male Human Detective Mage
Done and posting.

Raven the Trickster -> Galen "Stormcrow" Blackfeather: Male Elven Crow Shaman
Done and posting.

Sengir -> Hardwire: Male Ork Tecnomancer
Done.

Mister Shed -> ?: Male Ork Bear Shaman
Next Step: A history that includes the contacts or answer one of the variations of 20 questions. - Mister Shed

Aria -> Natalie Adams : Female Cat Burglary Adept
Next Step: Character Sheet. - Aria
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