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Yerameyahu
If it's not based on Magic, then it obviously isn't affected by BC.
Neraph
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Nov 13 2010, 12:05 PM) *
If it's not based on Magic, then it obviously isn't affected by BC.

That's interesting, and not at all what Running Wild states. In that text, you must have a magic of at least 1 to have any paranormal powers. So if you drop a dragon's magic to 0 they lose their Hardened Armor, since that's a paranormal power.

EDIT: And Granit Skin is useless unless you have a magic rating. And there's at least one critter with Hardened Armor with no magic.
Yerameyahu
What are you talking about? Granite Skin is metagenic.
Neraph
Yes, and it gives Hardened Armor which is a paranormal power, and it must have a Magic Rating to work, as per Paranormal Powers from Running Wild. So if you don't have a Magic Rating and you take Granite Shell, you just wasted 15 BP. If you drop a F12 Mana Static on a Great Dragon, they lose their Hardened Armor 20 (assuming the Great's magic is 12, that is).
Yerameyahu
Nope. It's not paranormal, it's metagenic. And we can all agree that it's a waste of BP *regardless*. biggrin.gif
ProfGast
Neraph is referring to this
QUOTE (Running Wild @ p204)
Paranormal powers are firmly in the realm of paracritters and impacted by the presence of Background Count. A creature must have a Magic Attribute of 1 or greater to use Paranormal powers.

Where "Hardened Armor" is later stated to be a paranormal power.

Personally I think it's a load of guff that you need a magic attribute to have armor comparable to a drone. But that's just me. Mystic Armor yes. That should blink out when you slam on background count, but not hardened armor.
Mäx
QUOTE (ProfGast @ Nov 13 2010, 08:42 PM) *
Neraph is referring to this

Where "Hardened Armor" is later stated to be a paranormal power.

yes, but granite skin doesn't give you hardened armor power, it gives you 3/3 armor that counts as hardened armor.
Neraph
QUOTE (Mäx @ Nov 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
yes, but granite skin doesn't give you hardened armor power, it gives you 3/3 armor that counts as hardened armor.

Eh, I missed "counts as." But you can still lay on the BC to drop off a dragon's Hardened Armor.
Yerameyahu
Presumably. And any other Magic-based powers.
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