How about Aquaman?

"We could use whales. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALES!!!"

Or we could use someone useful.

Aquaman's incredibly useful... in an underwater setting. Anywhere else... no.

Aquaman is very powerful. He commands aquatic creatures. Cthulhu is an aquatic creature.

Cthulhu is not a being to be commanded. Or woken up. Aquaman lets him sleep. After checking under his bed for Cthulhu.

Ouch

So is a Great Leviathan, not that a great dragon would taken orders from a metahuman.

Unles Aquaman is actually a Great Leviathan in metahuman form...

I've had ideas for super-hero type characters before, but they've generally been vetoed because the group thought it was just too silly. The problem, though, wasn't ME. The problem is that the group has a hard time seeing the real human tragedy engendered by some of these ideas I come up with. I don't really make these characters 'for the lulz' when I'm conceptualizing; I'm more of a fridge-horror kind of guy, to be honest.

Example:
Magical Girl archtype. Silly, right? Disassociative Personality Disorder (split personalities), Magician, a past trauma that drives the 'heroic' actions, and more than willing to murder in the name of 'justice and love.' Silly, until you realize exactly what kind of horror such a person is liable to inflict in the course of their personal crusade, and even moreso when you realize exactly the degree of horror such a person is living with. Enough tweaking would make this idea less disruptive to a runner group, and can easily fit in the shadowrun world. Laugh, ye bad people, at the dangerously mentally ill, while the less-thought-out sociopathic-itchy-trigger-finger does about the same, is less concerned with the collateral damage he causes, gets a pass.

And Cthulu has a squid-faced look, but is NOT a sea creature. It's a trans-dimensional entity beyond all rational, mortal, euclidean thought.

A Great Leviathan taking orders from Aquaman? Not likely.

A school of megalodons, on the other hand....

Aquaman (Changeling & Adept)
Biosonar
Climate Adaption (Deep Sea)
Gills
Underwater Vision
Webbed Hands and Toes
Adept Power : Commanding Voice (Geas: Sea Animals Only)

Black Canary (Adept)
Sonic Boom
Sonic Boost 6
Sound Dampening

Sonic Boom
Cost: 0,5

The adept possesses the ability to raise his voice to extremely high decibels. So high that it can cause pain in other people. The influenced area is a 90 degree field extending from the adepts mouth for magicratingx2 meters. Anyone inside this area is affected. If the gamemaster chooses anyone on the edge of the area can make a Reaction(2) test to try and get out of range. The base damage of the attack is 4S and the adept makes a Body+Magic test to try and increase the damage. The target(s) resist with rolling Body and base damage is modified if they are behind cover. No armor applies, but sound dampeners do give some protection (See page xx). If the adept lacks sound dampeners (or the equivalent adept ability) he takes full modified damage himself. With sound dampeners he takes no damage at all. The attack is a Complex Action and follows the normal rules for sound damage on page 165 in Street Magic.

Sonic Boost
Cost: 0.25 per level
Each level of this power increases the base attack of Sonic Boom by one.

Old School Batman
Old School Batman was more of a detective in tights with a few gadgets before he became the ultimate ninja of doom dark knight that cannot be done in SR without breaking a lot of plausibility barriers (like the time he disarmed a nuke, in flight, after being teleported to it…)
Born Rich 10
Local Fame (Gotham or city of operation) 10
Priviliged Family Name 5
SINner (Secret identity -10
Trust Fund (Secret identity) 10
Intolerance (Firearms) -10 (Moderate)
Obsession (Fight Crime) -10

Add primarily Throwing and Melee skills and some good maneuvers, projectile weapon for the grappling hook and a groundcraft skill.
Disguise (Theatrical)
Intimidation (Physical)
With the old “creature of the night” approach a modified ruthenium suit for invisibility might help him since he cant stop bullets.

Don't worry. Aquaman has Chuck Norris on his speed dial.


But still vulnerable to a Chuck Norris Roundhouse Kick ™. It doesn't matter what it is, it still dies to a CNRK ™.

Oh wait, did I mention that Chuck Norris is a superhero?

I think Batman is the second level of trust fund.

Yea I know, I didnt have the quality points.

But batman is a fictional figure and your FlyingRatMan wouldnt want to make the DC Megacorp go after him with copyright infringement claims now would you? Your version would not BE rich, he'd just be well to do.

*Laugh* I'm not being picky, i just happen to be building a ghoul very loosely based on the batman concept (lost father, swore to use his resources a better place, runs so he can take a more personal hand in things) so the point costs were mentally fresh.

oh, TOTALLY!

*groan*

Please don't turn this into the old-school WoW Barrens. I can't STAND CN.

Yeah, he is WAY overhyped...

You can say that again. I used to practice Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's MMA style), and I learned a bit about him. He really isn't much compared to, say, the Machado brothers or John Will.

JKD... Nice...

I was fortunate enough to go to two of John Will's workshops when he was visiting the US. Incredible guy. One of the workshops also starred David Meyer. For those of you who don't know, John Will was the first Caucasian to ever win the world Penjak-Silat tournament, and is also a world-class BJJ instructor.

Oh, gods....

Okay, not knowing who your instructor was, I can tell you that there are basically two camps of Bruce Lee descendants. There are the Classic bunch, who try and preserve as much of Bruce's original teachings as possible. And there's the Concepts camp, that basically throws all his techniques out the window and just teach principles of combat. Bruce himself only had a handful of students, many of who went on to teach their own stuff under the name of JKD, but really all this comes down to the only three certified instructors: Taky Kimura, James Lee, and Dan Inosanto.

There's many ongoing flamewars over which camp is better and holds more true to Bruce's ideals. I'm firmly in the Classics side, but that's beside the point. What matters is that Bruce Lee was the top martial artist of his time, bar none. He beat the crap out of Chuck Norris. He revolutionized the way martial arts is viewed and taught. He is the direct father of the modern MMA concept. He's responsible for the "toolbox" concept central to MMA and taught in just about every martial arts school in the US nowadays: The techniques you learn are your tools. Use the right one for the right situation, and try not to use the wrong one.

Not only was Bruce a big deal back then, his stuff is a big deal right now. Without him and Ed Parker, it's highly unlikely that martial arts would even be popular in the USA today. He was not only a top-notch fighter, he was pretty much the first person to publicly mix and match styles to get to what works. Sure, the Bruce of the 60's wouldn't have modern techniques on his side-- but if he were alive and fighting today, you better believe he would have adapted quickly. He really was-- and is-- that big of a deal. Given access to newer evolutions in techniques, Bruce in his prime would have eaten the Machado brothers for lunch.

How do I know all this? For starters, I know Taky and Andy Kimura personally-- I almost went to Andy's first wedding. I've trained with James DeMile and Patrick Strong, and had coffee with Jesse Glover. Bruce influenced a lot of things, and he was the real deal. No single person has contributed so much to martial arts in recent history. In short, he *is* that much.

Ooh, so he doesnt just beat up the bad guys, he eats them too?

One can really make a lot of street level range of 'heroes' or villains with the SR ruleset, you just have to remember that they will go 'splat' if they go up against heavy opposition.

Daredevil don't go fighting the Hulk for example - he would go up against an entire gang of troll gangers or go-gang bikers though.

Black Widow would be able to have her stun bracer in the form of a wrist mounted tazer or dart gun with a lot of bells and whistles for example.

If one would want to go that way I'd count Galactos as a Horror that can survive deep space but need an entire worlds manasphere in order to travel to a new world (making other horrors somewhat puny).

The only problem I have with this is that it seems EVERY superhero's got Galactus as a notch on their belt, give or take.

I don't think The Great Lakes Avengers have yet...

Squirrel Girl beat Galactus . .

Squirrel Girl?

Squirrel Girl . .
Oh, my bad, it wasn't galactus(yet) but she has beaten, as of yet:
Thus far, Squirrel Girl has beaten:
Doctor Doom[12]
Mandarin[5]
Giganto[5]
MODOK[5]
Thanos[5]
Terrax[5]
Bug-Eyed Voice[1]
Bi-Beast[6]
Deadpool[7]
Pluto[8]
Fin Fang Foom[9]
Baron Mordo[9]
Korvac[9]
Ego the Living Planet[9]

Wow...

We'll see how it goes in play, but i'm expecting that will add to his fearsome reputation.

My instructor was one of James DeMile's students. I left mostly because his teaching style and my learning style didn't mesh, and also because his focus was too far into sport for my liking.

In her most recent issues where she meets Doctor Doom, he doesn't even fight her. He just sighs and does whatever she demands. Otherwise her defeats of him would be much, much higher.

Yes, she's that bad ass.

And the Fantastic Four still don't want her on the team.

do you blame them? <.<

Considering how often Doom tries to step up on them, yes. If they had her, he'd just show up, apologize for whatever his plan was, and give them a nice Latverian Gift Basket (Eighteen different types of sausage! And almost as many cheeses!).

Heh... Interesting...

Squirrel Girl could NOT be effectively made in Shadowrun. Her speculated power is that her chances of success in any endeavor are inversely proportional to how overpowering her opposition is, and only when fought off camera. Thus, her chances of defeating Galactus/Horrors from Beyond are a virtual certainty while a common street ganger would probably gack her without wasting a single shot. Last I checked, she's become a nanny for a hero group.

As much as I love James DeMile's stuff, he is definitely not involved in the JKD aspects of the Bruce Lee legacy. He teaches his own thing, and does not pretend that it's Jeet Kune Do in any way. The same's true for Jesse Glover. Taky and Andy have the right to call their stuff JKD, but prefer to use the original name, Jun Fan. If you were studying with one of James DeMile's students, unless he had another instructor, you were not being taught Jeet Kune Do from any of the acknowledged lineages. You'd still be learning Bruce Lee techniques and philosophy, but DeMile has publicly separated himself from the JKD brand name.

I'm sorry you and your instructor didn't mesh. That can sour anyone on any art. Still, that doesn't mean that Bruce's original concepts and techniques don't work, or that if Bruce were alive today and in his fighting prime, he could eat just about everyone else alive.

Okay so I'm starting to lay out the framework for this campaign and I'm wondering, were it your campaign, would you have a "supervillian" antagonist, or would you keep it realistic and have the party going up against elite troops of high-level organizations? In other words, is the boss fight against a guy in a cape or Red Samurai/cyberzombies/Tir Ghosts/whatever?

Elijah Price: "Now that we know who you are... I know who I am. I'm not a mistake! It all makes sense. In a comic, you know how you can tell who the arch-villain's going to be? He's the exact opposite of the hero, and most time's they're friends, like you and me. I should've known way back when. You know why, David? Because of the kids. They called me Mr. Glass." - Unbreakable

Only Samuel L. Jackson can take a brittle and easily broken man with a cane/in a wheelchair and turn him into badass of the month!

The most likely "Supervillian" antagonist for Shadowrun would be "The Man" or "Whitey" (I guess that would be "Humey" in Shadowrun.). Considering the genre, and the way storylines are set up in Cyberpunk and Shadowrun, it's likely a Mr. Johnson that's been genetically and surgically altered for superior intelligence (In(meta)human Intuition and Logic!) that went horribly wrong and also released all the evil's that dwell within all men's souls. Greed, ambition, lust, the traditional reasons for being what is socially seen as a "Villain". Or a politician. But I repeat myself. Or, more likely, the person behind Mr. Johnson who pulls the strings of the puppetmaster himself.

The way I'd set it up (If I were writing/running this) is that the protagonist "Superhero" would end up having to face all of his enemies and allies (Contacts) at the same time as opponents, and be unable to hold back while still being able to live. All the while, the smug bastard sits far away, completely safe, with an iron-clad alibi.

"Another glass of wine, Mr. Governor? Mayors? Admiral?"