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TeaTime
I missed this event, but I always wondered... Just what is the Kusanagi Protocol?

Gencon 2005 Corporate Ghost - "Within a megacorporation, there are only a chosen few entitled to know the majority of the secrets. Of those few, only one or two may know each and every one. Outsiders are forbidden to know of the Kusanagi Protocol, but for a team that has been loyal (and more importantly, efficient) there comes a time when circumstance can thrust them into greatest secret of them all."
Paul
Interesting I've never heard of this. I know some people who i think went to Gen Con in 2005 I'll see if they were at this.
Stahlseele
Probably a Nod to GitS = > Makoto Kusanagi
TeaTime
I was thinking it might be related to the legendary sword of Japan, but Ghost in the Shell is great, too!
ravensmuse
Ha, and my first thought went straight to Kimiko Ross. I wonder why that is (prolly the Shirow influence).
Bodak
QUOTE (TeaTime @ Oct 13 2011, 05:20 AM) *
I missed this event, but I always wondered... Just what is the Kusanagi Protocol?
If you don't know what the Kusanagi Protocol is, maybe that indicates you are an Outsider to the megacorp? If not, have you been loyal (and more importantly, efficient)? Maybe there's a reason we don't know...

(Also, FWIW in GitS it's Motoko Kusanagi.)
Neraph
QUOTE (TeaTime @ Oct 12 2011, 02:20 PM) *
I missed this event, but I always wondered... Just what is the Kusanagi Protocol?

Gencon 2005 Corporate Ghost - "Within a megacorporation, there are only a chosen few entitled to know the majority of the secrets. Of those few, only one or two may know each and every one. Outsiders are forbidden to know of the Kusanagi Protocol, but for a team that has been loyal (and more importantly, efficient) there comes a time when circumstance can thrust them into greatest secret of them all."

TeaTime
Ah.... That's the problem, then...

I know OF Kusanagi Protocol.
But not what it is.

Clearly, I'm not an outsider.
But also not an insider.

You dig, Chummers?
TeaTime
OK. No answers on What is the Kusanagi Protocol?

Clearly, I failed my legwork roll. I spend a point of edge to reroll failures.
Now, anyone play in Gencon tourney 2005, and is willing to speak off the record about the Kusanagi Protocol for some nuyen?
Snow_Fox
My thoughts at once went to GitS since they discover the secrets that the corps want burried.

As for 2005- to follow the above theory, anyone who knows, isn't going to tell.
Paul
Sorry Chummer but my contacts have nothing. No one I know went to GC 2005.
TeaTime
Tell you what, chummers. Let's see if we can't loosen those tight lips.

I'll place a 10,000 in-game SRM missions nuyen bounty for information about the Kusanagi Protocol.
Payment goes to the first poster posting accurate details.

You know you want the cash. Here's your chance to reap the benefits of overdeveloped curiosity.
Snow_Fox
nuyen.gif 10k? did it occur to you that osmeone as powerful as we predicating would consider that chump change to pay out to keep it quiet? And the best way to keep it quiet is to look for the person offering the reward.
Glyph
It might be referring to the legendary Japanese sword, one of three Imperial Regalia of Japan. Yeah, the name shows up in Ghost in the Shell, as well as anime such as Blue Seed and games such as King of Fighters. But I think it is likelier that this protocol would be referencing the original legend, rather than one of its occurrences in pop culture.
Lindt
QUOTE (TeaTime @ Oct 12 2011, 03:20 PM) *
I missed this event, but I always wondered... Just what is the Kusanagi Protocol?

Gencon 2005 Corporate Ghost - "Within a megacorporation, there are only a chosen few entitled to know the majority of the secrets. Of those few, only one or two may know each and every one. Outsiders are forbidden to know of the Kusanagi Protocol, but for a team that has been loyal (and more importantly, efficient) there comes a time when circumstance can thrust them into greatest secret of them all."



As an OLD hand who Gm'd that tourny for FanPro allow me to blow your mind. Also I believe that was the year I spent 12 hours Gming 2 rounds... not cool when its supposed to be 8. I missed going clubbing that night cause of my team...

Big News From Novatech

Tell it to them straight: Richard Villiers stirs a bit and groggily sits up. Slowly rubbing his chest, he looks at Ketterling and smiles saying, “I owe you another one. Thanks Doc. You mind giving me some time alone with these gentlement?” Ketterling smiles back at Richard and leaves the room. Once the door shuts the smile fades from Villiers face and is replaced with a mask of rage. “How long have I been out?”
Several hours have passed since he dropped from the heart attack. Upon hearing the news, his mood will darken and he will say, “That’s not good. Damn heart… Brian’s had all the time he needed. So what was your role in this?” Should the team tell him about the job they pulled on AA CORP he will sigh and nod his head. “Right, I should have guessed. There’s a TV over in the corner… turn it on and search for the business channel.”

On the channel is a press conference in process with scrolling text on the bottom that reads, “Novatech Founder an CEO Richard Villiers names successor. Cites health concerns.” Richard Villiers is on the screen addressing the media. “Yes, as of 9am this morning I have signed the papers and received the board’s permission to make Brian Jenkins the CEO when I resign or am unable to continue my duties. These last few years have been incredibly stressful and though the mind is willing, it seems my body is lagging a bit behind. I’m told I have many years left but just in case I want to be sure my company is in good hands. Now I am sure you have many questions for Brian so I will step aside and let him take over.” A smattering of applause as Richard steps aside and Brian Jenkins steps up to the podium. “Thank you Richard. I cannot tell you all how happy I am to know that Richard trusts me this much. Novatech remains one of the top companies in the world and I am determined to make us number one. Any questions?”

Villiers will turn off the television and look at the players. “THAT, is the Kusanagi Protocol. My own idea used against me. After what happened to Fuchi, I was not about to let something similar happen to my firm. If I died, there would have been chaos so I created the Kusanagi Program. Ten clones were made of my body and kept in pseudo-stasis where the bodies would age accordingly and their brains were linked into a neuro-memory system. Every few days I download a copy of my mind and have my Alpha Team update each of the ten clones. They were being kept in the offices of our sub-companies… the one’s that were hit over the last few days. All the clones were destroyed in the chaos. Guess Brian managed to have one stolen and is using it as me. To his credit, he’s pulled it off beautifully but there is still one option left. You are taking me to Boston. There is a facility on the north side where I can get the information needed to rectify the problem.”


Hows THAT for awesome.
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
Pretty Awesome. smile.gif
Brazilian_Shinobi
dead.gif Mind blown indeed.
Wakshaani
While we're here, there was a note in ... shoot ... Augmentation? Supposedly, Villers or Damien Knight one was having a bad reaction to Leonization treatments. I never found teh place that it was discussed, nor exactly what was up with it.

Of course, we have a few elderly types that have been recently youthinized (hah! My joke is ... what? Futurama already... D'oh!) or otherwise changed that shoul dprove interesting.

One of the Shiawase clan, I do believe, had sixty years removed (which is an issue with his young wife), and ... wasn't there a second who either got young and changed genders or had has grand-neice captured and took over her body, one or the other?

Too early. My brain's not fully engaged yet.
TeaTime
Whoa! That's great, Lindt! Thanks for sharing. Funds Transferred!
I figured Knight was doing this routinely, but hadn't guessed Villiers. Well worth the nuyen!
Snow_Fox
Spend it quick. You think they'll let that be more than a rumor. tick-tock It's hot hot hot data and you're holding on to it.
Lindt
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Oct 31 2011, 01:38 PM) *
Spend it quick. You think they'll let that be more than a rumor. tick-tock It's hot hot hot data and you're holding on to it.


There are advantages to being a data pack rat. That was a fun mission to run, just ran very long.
Bodak
It's cool to know there's a save & reload precedent in canon, even if its availability is off the charts. It reminds me of The Sixth Day.
Ascalaphus
It really is all it was advertised, awesome biggrin.gif
Neraph
QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Oct 31 2011, 09:11 AM) *
While we're here, there was a note in ... shoot ... Augmentation? Supposedly, Villers or Damien Knight one was having a bad reaction to Leonization treatments. I never found teh place that it was discussed, nor exactly what was up with it.

Of course, we have a few elderly types that have been recently youthinized (hah! My joke is ... what? Futurama already... D'oh!) or otherwise changed that shoul dprove interesting.

One of the Shiawase clan, I do believe, had sixty years removed (which is an issue with his young wife), and ... wasn't there a second who either got young and changed genders or had has grand-neice captured and took over her body, one or the other?

Too early. My brain's not fully engaged yet.

Don't forget that FastJack is 73 (born in 1999 and assuming it's 2072). He doesn't seem the type to get Leonization though...
CanRay
He's too tough and mean to die. Death (Both physical and virtual) doesn't want to deal with his crankiness either. nyahnyah.gif
Brazilian_Shinobi
So, when will the T.I.T.A.N.S appear?
Wait, wrong game... cyber.gif
Sengir
QUOTE (Bodak @ Nov 1 2011, 04:28 AM) *
It's cool to know there's a save & reload precedent in canon, even if its availability is off the charts. It reminds me of The Sixth Day.

Well, it might not be a true brain copy. Maybe the clone just has a few "preset" memories and will drop dead from neurological failure a few days after coming out of stasis...
Brazilian_Shinobi
Or maybe Villiers has acquired resleeving technology.
Sengir
Bad Shinobi, bad! No brain uploads!
Ascalaphus
Well, it's been happening "by accident" (E-Ghosts), so it's only natural that at least one of the many people working on the technology manages to get it working. It is a cyberpunk trope, that people are trying to learn to upload people.
Brazilian_Shinobi
Sorry Sengir, couldn't help it. But yes, transhumanism is, at least in my opinion a valid evolution of a cyberpunk world.
Daylen
QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Nov 1 2011, 09:54 PM) *
Sorry Sengir, couldn't help it. But yes, transhumanism is, at least in my opinion a valid evolution of a cyberpunk world.


I believe the term is usually called post-cyberpunk.
Sengir
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Nov 1 2011, 09:51 PM) *
It is a cyberpunk trope, that people are trying to learn to upload people.

Sure, but in SR similar acts of hardcore tranhumanism (like cybermancy) come with huge and scary drawbacks. Brain uploading or transfers as run-of-the-mill procedure would just be too easy.
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 1 2011, 03:20 PM) *
Sure, but in SR similar acts of hardcore tranhumanism (like cybermancy) come with huge and scary drawbacks. Brain uploading or transfers as run-of-the-mill procedure would just be too easy.


Which is why it is not Run-of-the-Mill. smile.gif
Daylen
QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 1 2011, 10:20 PM) *
Sure, but in SR similar acts of hardcore tranhumanism (like cybermancy) come with huge and scary drawbacks. Brain uploading or transfers as run-of-the-mill procedure would just be too easy.


But how else can ya get multiple lives? Mario used mushrooms, but in SR brain software (memories and personality) uploads are needed.
Ascalaphus
QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 1 2011, 11:20 PM) *
Sure, but in SR similar acts of hardcore tranhumanism (like cybermancy) come with huge and scary drawbacks. Brain uploading or transfers as run-of-the-mill procedure would just be too easy.


It's so secret/rare that it took this kind of fishing to even turn up that it ever happened. That's hardly run-of-the-mill.
Sengir
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Nov 1 2011, 10:44 PM) *
It's so secret/rare that it took this kind of fishing to even turn up that it ever happened. That's hardly run-of-the-mill.

What I meant with that was a procedure that "just works", without a good chance of catastrophic failure significant drawbacks even if successful -- not monetary drawbacks, stuff like "you will die from a degenerative neural failure within a week, so better get that will signed fast".

If I were to design resleeving for SR, it would probably be a variant of cybermancy. Instead of binding the spirit/soul/stuff to a body which has become too different to hold that spirit, the spirit bound to a body which is different (although somewhat similar). Of course those little changes are enough to make the procedure even more complex, and because a cloned brain never develops quite like the original, it requires an IMS with a grade somewhere beyond epsilon.
Bodak
QUOTE (Daylen @ Nov 2 2011, 07:27 AM) *
Mario used mushrooms, but in SR brain software (memories and personality) uploads are needed.
If the cloned body has the same attributes (developed the same physique) and Active skills (stored in the cerebellum and basal ganglia) and it slots a PersonaFix of the master's past life / lives, complete with the Knowledge skills present at the time of last upload converted to KnowSoft format, then you'd have a pretty viable doppelgänger. Not quite a perfect save & reload as the Knowsofts and PersonaFix would be read-only, but still, not bad.
Snow_Fox
QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 1 2011, 04:33 PM) *
Well, it might not be a true brain copy. Maybe the clone just has a few "preset" memories and will drop dead from neurological failure a few days after coming out of stasis...

a four year lifespan would be standard to prevent too much independance from developing. Though soem units develop faster than that and become highly dangerous. I heard LS was putting together a special team to hunt them down.
Lansdren
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Nov 2 2011, 02:41 AM) *
a four year lifespan would be standard to prevent too much independance from developing. Though soem units develop faster than that and become highly dangerous. I heard LS was putting together a special team to hunt them down.




Love it rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Nov 1 2011, 08:41 PM) *
a four year lifespan would be standard to prevent too much independance from developing. Though soem units develop faster than that and become highly dangerous. I heard LS was putting together a special team to hunt them down.


Totally Awesome. I hear that they needed to pull a Specialist out of Retirement to head the team.
KarmaInferno
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time... to die."






-k
Lindt
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 2 2011, 08:27 AM) *
Totally Awesome. I hear that they needed to pull a Specialist out of Retirement to head the team.



Funny... thats what the Alpha team was for...

As a note. I can probably post the entire 3 part mission up here for you folks if you want...
Daylen
QUOTE (Lindt @ Nov 2 2011, 11:43 PM) *
Funny... thats what the Alpha team was for...

As a note. I can probably post the entire 3 part mission up here for you folks if you want...


sounds interesting.
Snow_Fox
If you can get your hands on a copy of the first ed books, in the equipment section look at the pic of the hold out gun.
TeaTime
QUOTE (Lindt @ Nov 2 2011, 05:43 PM) *
As a note. I can probably post the entire 3 part mission up here for you folks if you want...


The original tourney?
ABSO-FRAGGIN' LUTELY!

Here's a runner who knows just how to string a Johnson along! grinbig.gif
(Or a GM who knows exactly how to pace out an adventure!)
Lindt
Yes, I do know how to string my players along.

Part 1
[ Spoiler ]


Part 2
[ Spoiler ]



And the payoff Round 3
[ Spoiler ]


So there ya go, if you ever want to know what your tournament Gms have to work with, thats an example. Plus its a good shoot-um-up kinda run.
Now if ya dont mind, Im going to go hide out some where untill the heat is off. That data is hot hot hot.
Seriously Mike
QUOTE (Lindt @ Nov 3 2011, 01:42 PM) *
Yes, I do know how to string my players along.

Part 1

Hmm, this kinda gives me the idea how to access the Shiawase labs in LA. They're on a friggin' island, that's close enough.
TeaTime
QUOTE (Lindt @ Nov 3 2011, 07:42 AM) *
So there ya go, if you ever want to know what your tournament Gms have to work with, thats an example. Plus its a good shoot-um-up kinda run.
Now if ya dont mind, Im going to go hide out some where untill the heat is off. That data is hot hot hot.


Thanks! That's excellent! Looks like I missed a very fun tourney... Very neat to have a look!
Must try to make it for this years' Gencon!
Sengir
Just wondering, how much can those events be considered canon? Because besides the whole brain upload thingy, if that stuff is canon Richard Villiers has been secretly replaced by a clone...
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