This popped up on Tumblr the other day and it's a great image, probably from one of the recent gun books, yeah?
http://biometal79.deviantart.com/art/My-Sh...tion-1-48801985
I'm trying to figure out what book the Salvastra Penetrator shows up in. It looks nasty, but wasn't in the big list in Arsenal (unless I missed it?).
Thanks!
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'Savalette' is what the page says, not 'Salvastra'?
From the dev art page comments:
#20 being the Savalette Penetrator you mentioned.
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~squashy82 Aug 31, 2011
is 20 a custom gun you made if not which book is it in I have never seen it before?
~biometal79 Sep 2, 2011
It was a bit inspired by Seburo Anti-Cyborg Weapons by Masamune Shirow. Not in any book.
is 20 a custom gun you made if not which book is it in I have never seen it before?
~biometal79 Sep 2, 2011
It was a bit inspired by Seburo Anti-Cyborg Weapons by Masamune Shirow. Not in any book.
#20 being the Savalette Penetrator you mentioned.
This is fan art, if I'm not mistaken, not from any of the books. 
The same artist also has a number of the longarms and heavy weapons in the same style.
~Umi
The same artist also has a number of the longarms and heavy weapons in the same style.
~Umi
It doesn't actually look like a very sensible design.
Looking at the placement of the parts, it doesn't looke like a bullpup arrangement, so the barrel appears to be less than a foot long. On the other hand the size of the magazine strongly suggests a long action accomodating cartridges with massive case capacity. Unless they are massively downloaded (bad for reliability) when you shoot that thing you'll get a huge fireball and a massive concussion but probably not very impressive muzzle velocity.
For actual penetration of armour you want serious muzzle velocity, and either a fat round which can accomodate its own shaped charges and all that good stuff, or a very high density penetrator (often made of depleted uranium, tungsten or similar).
The whole thing looks a lot more like a personal protection weapon for crew serving heavy equipment. Halve the length of the case, give it a bullpup design, and you'd be a lot closer to sanity.
If you want a close quarters armour piercing system, I'd expect it to be rather narrow round, with a relatively short case (you can only burn so much powder in a short barrel), a bullpup design to squeeze the most barrel length out of the available design length, or maybe a much wider design for using sabot rounds (in which case it will look very different) and a much more upright, less strained position for the wrist as well as evident recoil compensation of some sort.
Looking at the placement of the parts, it doesn't looke like a bullpup arrangement, so the barrel appears to be less than a foot long. On the other hand the size of the magazine strongly suggests a long action accomodating cartridges with massive case capacity. Unless they are massively downloaded (bad for reliability) when you shoot that thing you'll get a huge fireball and a massive concussion but probably not very impressive muzzle velocity.
For actual penetration of armour you want serious muzzle velocity, and either a fat round which can accomodate its own shaped charges and all that good stuff, or a very high density penetrator (often made of depleted uranium, tungsten or similar).
The whole thing looks a lot more like a personal protection weapon for crew serving heavy equipment. Halve the length of the case, give it a bullpup design, and you'd be a lot closer to sanity.
If you want a close quarters armour piercing system, I'd expect it to be rather narrow round, with a relatively short case (you can only burn so much powder in a short barrel), a bullpup design to squeeze the most barrel length out of the available design length, or maybe a much wider design for using sabot rounds (in which case it will look very different) and a much more upright, less strained position for the wrist as well as evident recoil compensation of some sort.
QUOTE (Umidori @ Jul 4 2012, 05:41 PM) 
This is fan art, if I'm not mistaken, not from any of the books.
The same artist also has a number of the longarms and heavy weapons in the same style.
~Umi
The same artist also has a number of the longarms and heavy weapons in the same style.
~Umi
And a CHUNK more of art for his own RPG game+system
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