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The Jopp
Daddy Longlegs

-Changeling Streetsam bug hunter
-Waykayambi Elf
-Astral Hazing
-Gecko Hands
-X2 Shiva Arms
-X3 Ambidexterity
-X6 Underbarrel Fichetti gunbraces
-Ruthenium Suit and Sniper Rifle

The Preacher
-Changeling Streetsam paranormal bounty hunter
-Astral hazing
-Ghoul [Feeds on other Ghouls]
-Packs a tribarrel sawn off elephant rifle

Captain America
-Deranged human streetsam
-Lots of bioware and cyberware
-Smartlinked flying ballistic shield
-Star spangled banner outfit
-Ruthenium polymer suit
-Enemy: Hydra & Red Skull

Titan
-Pixie Mystic Adept Changeling
-Arcane Arrester
-Incompetence [Banishing, Summoning, Binding]
-Commanding Voice
-Nimble Fingers
-Increased Initiative 1
-Spell: Powerball [Restricted Target - Nonliving objects]
-Spell: Orgy
-Spell: Analyze Device [Caster Only]
-Pistol Crossbow [Stick n Shock bolts]

Brick
-Augmented Troll Pacifist
-Exceptional Attribute [BOD]
-Changeling III
-Metagenic Improvement [BOD]
-Berserker
-Combat Monster
-Bone Density 4
-Orthoskin 3 [Shock Modification]
-Titanium Bonelacing
-Blood Circuit Control System
Stahlseele
What about Wall, the ultimate mundane climber?
can climb faster than most people can run and even if all of his 40 something dice come up 1 he won't fall down.
The Jopp
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 24 2012, 09:48 AM) *
What about Wall, the ultimate mundane climber?
can climb faster than most people can run and even if all of his 40 something dice come up 1 he won't fall down.


Is that a weird character or an ultimate one-trick pony like the pornomancer?

I name thee wallfucker, master of the sticky hands. grinbig.gif

So...he makes the ultimate glitch and still wont fall down? What is he, glued to the wall? O_o?
Stahlseele
basically, yes.
he has everything that helps with climbing. including sticky hands and feet that won't leave prints on stuff he sticks to.
he is a one trick pony, ultimate, if you go for the 46 dice in climbing. if you go for 36 or even 30 it's still one hell of a climb but so much more versatile and usefull!
a troll with much STR that can get everywhere he damn well wants to is one hell of a breaking and entering specialist or sniper or close combat fighter if he wants to.

and then there is the hedge-pixie, the fastest meta-sapient alive.
and closely behind the fastest metahuman alive maxed out for running at speeds of motorcycles.
or pixie-punch, the pixie that can punch a hole into a dragon if he connects.
bear who walks through walls. a bear/troll shifter adept that can tear down barriers as fast as he walks along.

and WAY outside the rules, there is my binky. a surged centaur cyberzombie/cyborg hybrid equine hovertank with armor and firepower that rivals an entire platoon.
The Jopp
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 24 2012, 09:59 AM) *
and WAY outside the rules, there is my binky. a surged centaur cyberzombie/cyborg hybrid equine hovertank with armor and firepower that rivals an entire platoon.


Dunno outside the rules, I's just a matter of cost.
Changeling Centaur X2 Shiva Arms
Biocompability
Adapsin

X10 Cyberlimbs
X1 Cybertorso
X1 Cyberskull
X4 Hover Feet
X2 Weapon Shoulder Mounts
X1 Back Mounted Weapon Arm
X6 Weapon Arm Mounts

11,75 in basic essence
3,52 Delta Grade with Biocompability and Adapsin

Cost: Through the roof
Thanee
QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 24 2012, 10:37 AM) *
Brick
-Augmented Troll Pacifist
-Berserker
-Combat Monster


I think "Pacifist" means something else for you than it does for me. biggrin.gif

Bye
Thanee
Stahlseele
well, if you put it that way, i will have to believe you.
i am not that good in the SR4 ruleworks.


oh right, i did not catch the pacifist part . . isn't that kinda incompatible with combat monster? O.o
or was that combat paralysis? @.@

i had, after some creative tinkering and bribing of the GM, a character that was, basically, a walking ares screech sonic rifle.
everything ear and voice ware installed that was there. he would only have needed to really hear the ares screech sonic rifle up close to be able to replicate the effects with his cyberware . . somehow, the sonic weapons vanished after i introduced him
FuelDrop
Kendra Feyborn: Daughter of a former genetic test subject. betrayed by her last team. Hates Cyberware, Bioware, Geneware... not certain about nanotech
-Born with less essence than some street sams.
-Astral hazing.
-Anger control issues: staggering (Combat monster and Berserker)
-Group face
The Jopp
QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 24 2012, 09:12 AM) *
I think "Pacifist" means something else for you than it does for me. biggrin.gif

Bye
Thanee


He IS a pacifist and hates violence - he just have no control over himself when someone talks bad about his mother and shoots him in the face.

He is very remorseful after combat and have constant nightmares.
The Jopp
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 24 2012, 09:12 AM) *
oh right, i did not catch the pacifist part . . isn't that kinda incompatible with combat monster? O.o
or was that combat paralysis? @.@


Combat paralysis - how else could I create an emotionally scarred troll that kills, maims and rips people to pieces in a bloodrage and then cries like a baby when he is done.
Thanee
QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 24 2012, 11:21 AM) *
He IS a pacifist and hates violence - he just have no control over himself when someone talks bad about his mother and shoots him in the face.

He is very remorseful after combat and have constant nightmares.


What does he do to prevent himself from killing people?

He could prevent himself from getting into such situations, he could lock himself up, restrain himself, ask others to do so, and so on. He could buy an auto-injector and disable himself when necessary.

Sounds like he isn't really trying and doesn't really care...

Bye
Thanee
RdMarquis
The concept might fit better if you could somehow rebuild him as an adept with the Bear mentor spirit.
Stahlseele
More Concept:
Blur: complete body with ruthenium polymere coating. Wears a Suit with ruthenium polymere coating too, so it's a complete Predator-Effect. He usually makes himself visible in a very annoying way. Namely one that is pretty hard on the eyes. Looks blurry all over, even if you squint.
FuelDrop
QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 24 2012, 05:21 PM) *
He IS a pacifist and hates violence - he just have no control over himself when someone talks bad about his mother and shoots him in the face.

He is very remorseful after combat and have constant nightmares.

Tell me about it...
Look, it's not your fault that you 'hulk out' occasionally, those other guys should keep the conversation civil!
The Jopp
Anonymus
Human Face
Dermal Sheating with Ruthenium Polymers
Wear a tailored black suit

In combat characters body (not clothing) is invisible by ruthenium.
Stahlseele
i tried to do deadpool once, but i failed at doing the regenerative healing . . you'd think doing the little yellow boxes would be the harder part . .
The Jopp
QUOTE (Thanee @ Sep 24 2012, 09:24 AM) *
What does he do to prevent himself from killing people?

He could prevent himself from getting into such situations, he could lock himself up, restrain himself, ask others to do so, and so on. He could buy an auto-injector and disable himself when necessary.

Sounds like he isn't really trying and doesn't really care...


Well, shock hands lets him stun people which is an improvement because he would stop beating them when they don't move anymore. Besides, pacifist as a 5 point flaw isn't that bad - he just refuses to kill people...as long as he controls himself...

It's not hard to come up with a backstory for it if I want to.

-Fear of drugs [Kicked a habit]
-Severe phobia of confinement [restrained as a child]
-Might not be any drugs on the market that lets him functional without knocking him unconscious - not to mention BOD 14 for drug resistance as you cannot choose NOT to resist a drug.
etc...
Umidori
I took a shot at replicating Mr. Freeze in Chummer. Came out pretty well, posted him around here somewhere.

I also started working on Batman, but realized he'd be a nightmare in terms of qualities. I think I got down Pacifist, Privileged Family Name, SINner, Fame (National), Day Job (10 hours/week), Born Rich, Trust Fund, and Home Turf before I decided to save myself the trouble and stop while I could. There are just too many minor details to represent in game and not enough points, at least with a normal character.

~Umi
The Jopp
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 24 2012, 10:53 AM) *
i tried to do deadpool once, but i failed at doing the regenerative healing . . you'd think doing the little yellow boxes would be the harder part . .


Hmm...

Human BOD 6
Magic 5
Rapid Healing 5: 5D6
Mender Endosont [+2D6 healing] 0,2

Nanohive [0,75]
-Trauma Control System 6
-Nanosymbiotes 6 [6D6 healing Tests]

Natural Healing Test: 19D6

Could Work?
DuckEggBlue Omega
We were talking about a Scud: The Disposable Assassin type character the other night.
The Jopp
QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Sep 24 2012, 12:18 PM) *
We were talking about a Scud: The Disposable Assassin type character the other night.


So...

AI with Mitsuhma Aikyama [Similar Models: BOD 5 / Handling -1]

Dependant
Cranial Bomb/AI Kill Switch [Goes off if Dependant Dies]
In Debt [Paying off large medical bills]

Should work.
Makki
Tinker (currently playing)
Gnome Rigger, spec: anthroform
Smart Articulation
Ork-sized Cyborg Drone with Rigger Cocoon and Extra Entries/Exits

StealthSigma
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 24 2012, 06:11 AM) *
Tell me about it...
Look, it's not your fault that you 'hulk out' occasionally, those other guys should keep the conversation civil!


Really? They want me submerged in a pressurized metal container?
Iduno
I built a 750 karmagen (errata'd) character with all of the non-magic/resonance skills in Chummer at 8 or 10 dice. A few skills are on skillsofts, but at low enough rating that the skillwires can handle using all of them all of the time. With a few situational bonuses (like a smartgun or camo suit), he should be fairly capable.

However, he has no contacts, and the only knowledge skills he has are from knowsofts.

It was more of an experiment than a character I intended to play, but with a bit of tweaking it might be a playable character. I'd look at what I could do with 1,000 karma, but that seems like an unneccesarily high amount of karma.

(edit:) Also, I think 4 or 5 edge, in case he really needs to succeed.
Draco18s
Drake Infiltrator.

Pretty much the only rational way to build a drake so that none of the race traits end up as negative qualities. Sheet is a template build, as to allow for customization, rather than a fully formed character.
Umidori
QUOTE (DuckEggBlue Omega @ Sep 24 2012, 05:18 AM) *
We were talking about a Scud: The Disposable Assassin type character the other night.

Now I wanna do Kobayashi The Discount Ninja. And I also kinda wanna know if more than 2 people on the planet will get that reference without having to look it up. nyahnyah.gif

But how do you represent an inability to comprehend three dimensional space? Cyclopean Eye, but without the deformity aspect?

~Umi
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Umidori @ Sep 24 2012, 01:27 PM) *
Now I wanna do Kobayashi The Discount Ninja. And I also kinda wanna know if more than 2 people on the planet will get that reference without having to look it up. nyahnyah.gif

But how do you represent an inability to comprehend three dimensional space? Cyclopean Eye, but without the deformity aspect?

~Umi


Blindness, Deafness, and diminished senses in taste, smell, and touch....
Umidori
I'd like him to at least be playable, even if he does still have terrible aim.

Anyway, the character can smell and everything just fine, it's just his depth perception that fails him.

~Umi
Umidori
Pouble Dost.

~Imu
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Umidori @ Sep 24 2012, 01:43 PM) *
Pouble Dost.

~Imu


Well it would be pretty difficult to fail to comprehend three dimensional space (considering you exist in it) as long as you have at the very least functional sight, hearing, and touch. nyahnyah.gif

Now, depth perception is a whole different story....
Umidori
Kobayashi is weird. It'd take too long to explain properly, I need to be somewhere in ten minutes.

Suffice it to say, he can handle three dimensional space normally, except when he's attacking. So he can do normal things like climb stairs and reach out and touch an object, but have him try to attack that same object and he is nearly incapable of landing a hit - to the point that once when he attempted to demonstrate his skill, he ended up with his fist stuck in the ceiling of a completely different room from the one containing his intended target, and neither of them knew how it happened.

~Umi
Umidori
That said, I'd need to give him godlike throwing weapon skills. Because when he throws shuriken, they literally just appear embedded in the target.

...most of Kobayashi's problems are psychological.

~Umi
Halinn
Incompetent (blades, clubs, unarmed) sounds like it covers thing, then...
Udoshi
QUOTE (Umidori @ Sep 24 2012, 02:11 PM) *
That said, I'd need to give him godlike throwing weapon skills. Because when he throws shuriken, they literally just appear embedded in the target.

...most of Kobayashi's problems are psychological.

~Umi


Maybe its the characters I've been statting recently, but this basically screams 'free spirit with Elemental Attack and a Compulsion quality affecting his attacks'
Umidori
Free Spirit might actually work for other reasons as well. I was planning on just sort of glossing over certain factors of Kobayashi's... nature?... but a free spirit could actually do a decent job representing his unique... reality.

See, Kobayashi is a sentient video game sprite, from a crappy flash-based web "game" of the sort you'd find on sites like Newgrounds, in a very old and obscure wemcomic called Kid Radd.

...it's complicated, alright?

Anyways, as the world and story he is from is concerned entirely with digital entities, I was planning on just ignoring that aspect of his existence and making him a normal metahuman rather than an A.I. or whatever, but a Free Spirit (perhaps of Man?) would not only help recreate the mechanical quirks of his nature, but also bolster the fluff aspects. Unfortunately I've never statted out a Free Spirit, so I'll have to read up on it. It might ultimately be easier to just replicate his personality and behaviors and skills in metahuman form than than to actually acknowledge and attempt to represent his irregular physical nature.

EDIT - So I've actually been rereading Kid Radd to refresh my memories on good ol' Koba, turns out the ultimate core of his problems which I forgot about is that he has two different sorts of attacks programmed into his nature: ones just for show that never hit, and "real" ones that never miss. Unfortunately, he's not the brightest cookie in the toolshed, so to speak, and his original programming also dictates that he use the useless attacks first, so unless he's actively resisting his programming (a composure test or similar I guess?), he can't just use the effective stuff from the get go. Not exactly sure how that could be modeled in game terms, though, or even if it'd be worth trying to. It might just be simpler to run combat as normal, with misses meaning he makes a useless attack and hits meaning he does his epic ones.

~Umi
The Jopp
Cloud
Artificial Intelligence
-Rootkit
-Authority
-More Than Metahuman

Controls a fleet of enhanced Hunter Killer drones

HK Drone [Response 5]
[Anti-Vehicle Weaponry]
-Ruthenium Polymer Coating
-Hardware Toolkit
-Mechanical Grapple Arm X2
-Rating 4 pilot

Rating 4 Agent [Agent Smith]
-Replicate [Ergonomic]
-Homeground - HK Drone[Ergonomic]
-Analyze [Ergonomic]
-Command [Ergonomic]

Cloud utilize an army of spawned agents on board his swarm of drones as a secondary spoof defense, it makes him slightly slower [1 pass used for orders]

Whenever an order is received by an agent they send back a query to Cloud who confirms the order who is then sent back by the agent to the drone.

Any command received directly to the Drone will be sent to the Agent for verification.
The Jopp
Gong-Bao - Master of Gong-Fu

Human Adept
Geas: Must speak/shout when using powers

Killing Hands
Elemental Strike [Sound]
Commanding Voice
Sound Dampening
Voice Control
Improved Reflexes

"The last run he made with us was a break in into a museum to steal a priceless crystal collection supposedly owned by Catherine the Great among other fragile objects in that area of the museum.

We got surprised by the guards and he jump kicked the guard to stop him from blowing the alarm - and then all our eardrums exploded alongside with EVERYTHING made out of glass or crystal as his kick apparently manifested as the highest C note ever recorded in history...

We did not get paid..."
KarmaInferno
Pixie driving a drone Human Suit.

grinbig.gif




-k
The Jopp
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 25 2012, 01:30 PM) *
Pixie driving a drone Human Suit.

grinbig.gif

-k


Hehe.

Human with an armored backpack
Wired Reflexes
Stirrup Interface
Cybereyes
Cyberears
Pixie in backpack with trode net connected to datajack to human.
Draco18s
I'm sure I've got this one statted out in more detail somewhere already.

Tinkertoy

Cyber-elf.
Augmentations:
Modular cyber arm (left) with cyberpistol
Modular cyber arm (right) with cyberpistol
Modular cyber leg (left) with cybershotgun
Modular cyber leg (right) with cybershotgun

Skills:
Rigging his own body parts as drones
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 25 2012, 10:40 AM) *
I'm sure I've got this one statted out in more detail somewhere already.

Tinkertoy

Cyber-elf.
Augmentations:
Modular cyber arm (left) with cyberpistol
Modular cyber arm (right) with cyberpistol
Modular cyber leg (left) with cybershotgun
Modular cyber leg (right) with cybershotgun

Skills:
Rigging his own body parts as drones


I have a pet elf with no legs.

What do you call him?

Seriously? I have a pet elf with no legs.

Right, so what did you call him?

Ask me again.

.... What did you call him?

I couldn't because he never came.
The Jopp
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 25 2012, 03:40 PM) *
Skills:
Rigging his own body parts as drones


HOW??? O_o
StealthSigma
QUOTE (The Jopp @ Sep 25 2012, 10:54 AM) *
HOW??? O_o


Modular cyberlimbs are removable. So the exact crunch how I'm not sure but I presume it involves putting in some sort of mobility upgrade, comm, and pilot software so the limbs can be detached. He might be talking about rigging his own limbs when they're attached to his body but that seems pointless.
The Jopp
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 25 2012, 02:58 PM) *
Modular cyberlimbs are removable. So the exact crunch how I'm not sure but I presume it involves putting in some sort of mobility upgrade, comm, and pilot software so the limbs can be detached. He might be talking about rigging his own limbs when they're attached to his body but that seems pointless.


Hmm...

Legs could have mobility upgrade and the hands can be drone hands but since they have no individual engines they literally cannot move on their own.

Unless of course you use the rules for weapon upgrades and add the mobility upgrade with the added mod slots cost, or pay the cost for a small crawler drone+modular limb upgrade and mechanical arm to get a drone arm that you can attach.

Draco18s
I believe there's an upgrade to turn a modular limb into a drone (there's even a picture of a drone-hand in the book). I forget what it's called.

But the core concept is that in combat, he falls to pieces (literally).

Edit:
Ah, it was specific to the hand. And it's called "Drone Hand." It might be possible to do generically. I recall that we gave them flight mods (similar to what you can do for a gun) but still, a disembodied leg on the ground with a shotgun isn't something to sneeze at. And in either case, it was more a thought experiment based on someone who didn't know Shadowrun asking "but could you...?" and basically being able to say, "yes, actually, you can" and leading to this hilarious concept.
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 25 2012, 11:14 AM) *
I believe there's an upgrade to turn a modular limb into a drone (there's even a picture of a drone-hand in the book). I forget what it's called.

But the core concept is that in combat, he falls to pieces (literally).

Edit:
Ah, it was specific to the hand. And it's called "Drone Hand."


Just figure out how to put a weapon in your cybereye since those also have drone options....
Draco18s
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 25 2012, 11:18 AM) *
Just figure out how to put a weapon in your cybereye since those also have drone options....


I think there's a single-use gun that'd be small enough. I know there's a tongue version, but it could be adapted for the ocular drone...probably.
StealthSigma
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 25 2012, 11:20 AM) *
I think there's a single-use gun that'd be small enough. I know there's a tongue version, but it could be adapted for the ocular drone...probably.


So....

What you need to do...

Cybereyes with guns...
Cyberhands with guns...
Cyberfeet with guns...
Cyberarms that have guns exposed when the hand is detached...
Cyberlegs that have guns exposed when the foot is detached...

Fall apart indeed.......
Sid Nitzerglobin
Thinking about this while mowing the lawn last night and the idea of creating a Bearsharktopus runner came to mind, but I haven't had a chance to flesh him out yet...
Draco18s
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 25 2012, 11:24 AM) *
Fall apart indeed.......


Yup.
Arms are tricky. Not quite enough capacity (10) for a shotgun (11), or an automatic of somekind,* but room for pistol and more.
Legs do fit shotguns nicely though.

*Don't recall if there's even a capacity listing for one
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