I saw a night one gun adept somewhere on the forums a while back with most of their powers geased for night use. Any chance someone could post it, or maybe another? I believe it was designed to be a sniper/run and gunner. Nifty if possible. If not, here's another munchkin challenge! Make the perfect night sniper designed to be highly mobile, jumping across rooftops and such. =D

Okay - Priority System is a metahuman magician's friend, so...

A Magician's Way Adept
B Night One wasn't sure if this was canon in SR3. Too lazy to look.
C 24 Attribute points
D 20,000¥
E 27 Skill points

B 4, Q 8, S 3, C 3, I 5, W 5

Active Skills: Athletics 4(, Pistols 6, Rifles 6(8), Sorcery 4(Spellcasting 6), Stealth 6(10)
Knowledge Skills: Anatomy 5, English 6(R/W 3), Magic Background 4, Mil Spec Weapons 5, Safehouse Locations 4, Seattle Rooftops 5, Security Procedures 2

Powers
Freefall 5(Geas Night) (1.00)
Improved Athletics 4(Geas Night) (0.75)
Improved Rifles 2(Geas Night) (0.75)
Improved Stealth 4(Geas Night) (0.75)
Magic Power 2(Geas Night) (1.5)
Thermographic Vision (0.25)
Vision Magnification (0.25)

Spells:
Detect Individual (Extended) 3(Exclusive for cost, Fetish for Drain)
Enhanced Aim (Extended) 4(Fetish for cost)
Gecko Crawl 4
Improved Invisibility 3(Exclusive for cost, Fetish for Drain)
Levitate 3(Fetish for drain)

20,000¥ to spend on gear

Are metahuman variants possible under the priority system?

Not according to strict Canon, but there are some differing views on that.

Also: should geased Imp. Athletics and Stealth cost as much as geased Imp. Rifles?

I like to stick to canon and stuff. Quickie sniper-type character, emphasis on jumping. Used BBB, Companion, and MITS

Breakdown, 123 point-buy
25: Physical Adept
15: Night one
30: 30 Skills
48: 24 Attributes
5: Resources


Attributes
Body: 4
Quickness: 8
Strength: 3
Charisma: 4
Intelligence: 6
Willpower: 3

Skills
Athletics: 6(Spent (11)
Rifles: 6(11)
Stealth: 6
Etiquette: 4
Clubs: 4(Spent 5)

Powers
Improved Athletics 6(Geas Night)(1.25)
Improved Rifles 4(Geas Night)(1.5)
Improved Stealth 1(0.25)
Freefall 6(Geas Night)(1.25)
Great Leap 6(Geas Night) (1.25)
Improved Sense: Vision Mag(0.25)
Improved Sense: Thermographic(0.25)

Edge: Perfect Time (1 point)

Edit because I screwed up adding up power points.

Second edit because Mode works from memory and randomly decided on an edge. So since the edge can't be chosen by metatypes, he decided to just throw away the extra point on something else.

So choose the edge that lets you know when the sun's going down!

Um, Improved Rifles costs .5/point. Both of the above get only 2 levels of power for what they paid, and the second's got another .25pps to spend.

And, personally, I think magician's way adepts are stupid, particularly those who pick spells that all do physical Drain.

Okay, here's a quick and dirty version from me. He's an albino, to get an extra point of Combat Pool (and because you're already gimped in daylight and already stick out like a sore thumb, making the two biggest disadvantages of albinism almost redundant for this character). Built for sneaking, hopping from rooftop to rooftop, and sniping from a distance - at night. A concept that leaves him vulnerable to a lot of situations and is a bit overfocused, but could be fun to play, depending on the particular campaign.


Here is the breakdown:
Night One: 15
Edges: +6
Flaws: -6
Resources: 5
Attributes: 56
Skills: 22
Magic (Adept): 25
TOTAL: 123

Albino Night One Adept - Sniper
Attributes -
Body: 5
Quickness: 9
Strength: 4
Charisma: 3
Intelligence: 6
Willpower: 7
Essence: 6
Magic: 6
Reaction: 7

Initiative: 7 + 1d6
Combat Pool: 11
Karma Pool: 1

Adept Abilities -
Freefall: 4 (Night Geas): 0.75
Great Leap: 4 (Night Geas): 0.75
Improved Abilities -
>Rifles: 6 (Night Geas): 2.25
>Stealth: 4 (Night Geas): 0.75
Improved Senses -
>Vision Magnification
Sixth Sense: 4 (Night Geas): 0.75
Traceless Walk

Active Skills -
Athletics: 6
Etiquette: 3
Rifles: 6
Stealth: 6

Knowledge Skills -
(Languages)
English/Cityspeak: 3/5 R/W: 2/-
Japanese: 3 R/W: 1
Sperethiel: 2 R/W: 1
(Other Skills)
Booby Traps: 5
Corporate Politics: 2
Physics/Ballistics: 3/5
Seattle Black Market: 5
Seattle Rooftops: 6
Seattle Sewer/Utility Tunnels: 4
Underworld Politics: 4

Edges -
Aptitude: Athletics
Bonus Attribute Point: Quickness

Flaws -
Allergy: Silver, Severe
Bio-Rejection (from Albinism)
Vindictive

Contacts -
Armorer (Level 1)
Fixer (Level 1)

Gear of Note -
Get a Remington 950 with a high-powered Laser Sight, Silencer, and a Shock Pad. Also a grapple gun, climbing gear, stealth line, and maybe even a low-altitude parachute. And some decent armor - like a secure jacket or camo suit (with Gel Packs) combined with a full suit of FFBA (with Thermal Dampening). With 20,000, you have enough to get a Low Lifestyle, a Basic DocWagon Contract, and have enough left for a decent selection of gear. If you wind up with 5,000 left over, get an extra Level 1 Contact - either a Cab Driver or a Fence.

**Edit** By the way, he also has Allergies to Sunlight from being a Night One and from Albinism - depending on how your GM combines the two (having one make the other go up one level, or combining the Flaw points), he could either have a Moderate or a Severe Allergy to Sunlight.

Twin:

Race: Night one (15)
Magic: Adept (25)
Attributes: 30 (60)
Resources: 5000 (0)
Skills: 24 (24)
Edges: Ambidextrous 8
Flaws: True Believer (Tir Tairngire) (-3)
Dependent (-2)
Phobia, Severe and Uncommon (Mimes) (-4)
Total: 123

Attributes:
Body 5
Quickness 8
Strength 4
Charisma 5
Int. 6
Willpower 6
Essence 6
Reaction 11
Initiative 3d6

Skills:
SMGs 6
Edged Weapons 4
Stealth 6
Athletics 4
Etiquette(street) 2(4)

Adept Powers:
Improved SMGs 6 (Geasa: Only when using Custom-Grip weapons)
Improved Senses (Flare Compensation, Visual Mag 3, Improved Scent)
Improved Reflexes 2

Gear:
2x Uzi III ¥1,200
2x Gas Vent 4 ¥2,000
2x Custom Grips ¥400
Lined Coat 700
Capsule Rounds (Pepper Punch, 30) ¥180
Regular Ammo (60) ¥120
2x Tomahawk ¥400
Total: ¥5000

Contacts and Knowledge skills to taste.
It's probably not as munchy as some but also a bit more versatile and already has obvious character hooks built in. Adding in improved skills on the Edged Weapons would be a priority with the next initiation since each point would add 3 die (even a single point would give him 12 total).

I shoot really, really well but I live in a cardboard box down by the river.

That's right. Crazy mofos in fake trailers! =D

This isn't a munchkin character. I've read so many of these threads that I just decided, what the hell, why always someone only useful in one situtation or in one set of circumstances? So I decided to make up a night one gun adept just to say like, "Look, you don't only have to be useful if X = Y".

Anyway, it's made with BeCKS V2.


Race = 30 Karma
Magic = 75 Karma
Attributes = 152 Karma
Skills = 158 Karma
Resources = 30 Karma
Contacts = 5 Karma

Total 450 Karma

Body - 4
Quickness - 8
Strength - 3
Charisma - 5
Intelligence - 5
Will Power - 4

Reaction - 6 (10 - Surprise)
Initiative - 6+1d6

Combat Pool - 8

Skills

Clubs/Stun Baton - 2/4
Pistols - 4
Pistols B/R - 1
Rifles - 5 (8)
Rifles B/R - 2
MA : Akido - 3
MA : Evasion
Athletics - 5 (7)
Stealth - 5 (7)
Etiquette/Street - 2/4
Negotiation - 3
Biotech/First Aid - 2/3
Computer - 2
Demolitions - 3
Bike - 4
Bike B/R - 2
Car - 2

75 Karma for Knowledge Skills

Physical Adept Powers

Freefall - 3 - 0.75
Great Leap - 3 - 0.75
Improved Athletics - 2 - 0.50
Improved Stealth - 2 - 0.50
Improved Rifles - 3 - 1.50
Improved Senses, Select Sound Filter - 0.25
Improved Senses, Thermographic Vision - 0.25
Sixth Sense - 4 - 1.00
Traceless Walk - 0.50

Gear (couldn't be arsed really)

Middle Lifestyle in Renton - 2 months prepaid - 10,000
15,000 nuyen more for assorted gear.

Contacts

7 x Level 1 contacts to pick.


Personally, if I was actually going to spend some time on making the character and hope to use it, I'd probably lower quickness a bit, use the points to get some more cash to buy a bike and maybe add a few other skills, maybe a couple more contacts too.

If you don't use the MA rules in CC. Then swap Akido and Evasion for Unarmed Combat/Martial Arts 2/4 and buy another Level 1 contact. If you don't use BeCKS, tough, I guess.





- Baatorian

This thread gave me the idea to try something. These are only the relevant parts of the character. I actually wrote out the rest as well.

Night One, Adept

Attributes
Body 6
Quickness 8

Edges/Flaws
Aptitude: Athletics

Skills
Athletics 6

Bioware
Enhanced Articulation
Synthcardium 2
Reflex Recorder (specialized: Athletics(Jumping))

Adept Powers
Improved Ability: Athletics 5
Great Leap 5
Freefall 4



14 dice for Athletics
20 dice for Athletics (Jumping)
Maximum jump distance: 13 meters horizontal, 4 meters vertical


How far do you think the gap between those buildings that Trinity jumped across was in the first Matrix movie?

No.

In checking your profile, I discover... Dr Funkenstein, I presume. With your typical wit and banter you've once again demonstrated your innate superiority
Youve always been very consistent. Yove never complimented anybody but those who've bowed to you and aknowledge your superior knowledge. Your help is offered with a sneer and a sense of smugness. You're overly critical and less than helpful. I'm willing to admit it. I don't listen to you anymore. You would prefer it if nobody used a character generator as that would invalidate all of the hours you've spent memorizing and cataloging the rules. This I'll admit it as well... You do know the rules better than I (you win, hurrah...feel better now?). "Real men don't need no stinkin' character generators. Real players only need a clean sheet of paper!"
I wrote the program to help the newbies and experts. Less time spent generating characters and more playing them. I believe that there are people playing now that would've have found it impossible to begin. It seems you would prefer that only 'experts' and people who have memorized that game to your exacting criteria be allowed to play.
You've spent a great deal of time and effort criticizing others in some effort to feel larger. I've been around as long as you (since the fancy brown themes) and I seen more than a few of your posts. You don't help people. You beleager them, you intimidate them, you harass them. They NEVER have a point. Only you are correct, only you have the one correct viewpoint. To put a technical spin on things: Your Etiquette skills stink. I imagine your actual computer skills are very good to compensate your lack of real people skills. Compromise is not in your
lexicon.
Now that I know who you really are, I'll follow my stated policy and no longer respond to you.
Bottom line: My stated goal is to help people, your's is to apparently denegrate and criticize them.
P.S. Weren't you banned from this board?

Nice rant. You almost completely managed to curtail the obnoxiousness of your last post ("do you mean 'occasions'" feh) while, with a fascinating display of hypocrisy, have the nerve to say that on one hand I never offer any constructive criticism and on the other admit that you've ignored said constructive criticism because you don't particularly like me. <thumbs up> Good job.

And no, I never was banned though I do occassionally get asked to calm down a bit when I get my feathers a little too ruffled (which I admit does happen despite my sincere efforts to not do so; and rest assured that I'm concentrating *very* hard on not doing so in response first with Eyeless Blond and then you). Probably because despite your personal biases, the majority of my posts around here are geared towards discussing the game and helping newbies when they ask questions.

I just happen to have a simple philosophy: If you're going to do something like code a character generator, you should do it right whether you're getting paid for it or not. When you start throwing in random house and/or third-party rules for something so many people sadly take as a legitimate resource, you should at least put some effort into insuring its worthy of that status... and the one thing you most certainly shouldn't do is whine and complain and then tell everyone that it's their duty to fix your mistakes. Because it most certainly isn't.

Hmm...I don't have a problem using NSRCG. With a little common sense, it can be a really useful tool. It helps quite a bit that I am familiar with all the rules, I suppose. Most of my players can create a character in their head, and wouldn't be confused, or take half an hour to figure out what was wrong. Is the program perfect? No. So what? None of my homemade programs are bug free, either.

I suppose it's not such a good thing for newbies to use, as there aren't detailed descriptions of every piece of gear, cyberware, rules, etc. Nor should there be.
I certainly wouldn't want to do that much data entry for free. Sometimes I'll notice a little mistake. I say "Hmm...that's not right..." and fix the problem. Takes about 3 seconds. With a few minutes of familiarizing, most people accustomed to the rules should be able to make a perfectly legal character.

It's not a hard program to use. Hell, I'm so used to it I can crank out characters/NPCs in nothing flat. From my desktop throne of power, while perusing Dumpshock. I don't end up with Int. 18 characters or anything like that. Maybe it's the omission of the aforementioned dope...

I say kudos, mcmackie, for a fun and useful tool. I appreciate the, I assume, multiple unpaid hours of work you put into it. Bravo.

Thank you for the kind words. No, I've never made back what I put into it. Actually, it wouldn't exist without the support of volunteers who've handled the data entry. This accounts for some potential errors but also many improvements (i.e. the descriptions in the edges/flaws). Yes, like many tools it can be misused. Hence I've always advocated active GM involvement. I could've imposed very rigid rules but then the utility for NPC creation would be eliminated / curtailed. The problems with min/maxed broken illegal characters exist WITHOUT the chargen. You have this issue with paper and pencil. The only cure is teaching the players and experience/time Is the chargen's fault that many people cannot be bothered to read the rules or GMs not reviewing the created characters.
The one of the character creation methods objected to is BeCKS. Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you view it), it is a very popular creation method that many believe reduce min/max'ing in character creation. I included it because it seemed to be the most popular alternative creation method. Yes, it is non-canon. Yes, it would've made my life easier IF I hadn't put it in BUT I thought there was sufficient interest to justify it. It would be impossible to remove it this point but if you want to take a survey, feel free.
Also, many errors have been FOUND with the chargen as well. The issue with cybergrade on cybereyes (Street Sam), the costs on various items, and such from the BBB. It's a tool. (Doesn't this feel a bit like Gun Control?)
Side note: I apologize the "real man" comment as I was ... irked at the time. I simply wanted to.... exagerate for illustrative purposes Naturally, the first character I created was with a sheet of paper (and a big crayon ! )

What's funny is I didn't even use NSCRG, I just happen to like the True Believer flaw and personally when I'm making something "Munchkin" I don't tend to follow the rules slavishly. I tend to use a Quattro-pro spreadsheet in which I've got small macros and cell-formulas that automatically tally up the point value for each catagory.

Anyway Rodent, what's your beef with True Believer? I always thought it was great, it gives the GM a good hook and can really screw the player when used properly. In comparison to, say, a moderate allergy to Asteroids or a moderate Phobia of dinosaurs it's much more useful in limiting the player.