Hey all I Just made a horse shaman sorcer adept with 2 grades of initation and the movement power as a starting character that can reach speeds of 520m/ct Its been awhile since I played shadowrun so I could be wrong but heres how I did it.

125 bp

Race
Night one elf

Cash 650K

Magic Aspected Magician

Attributes 22

Active Skills 16

Edges/Flaws
Aptitude>Athletics +4
Toughness +3
Bonus Attribute point QUICK +2
Computer Illiterate -3
Allergy uncommon mild Hellhounds -2
Amnesia lvl 1 -2
Implusive -2

Attributes
BOD 4 (5 with toughness)
QCK 7 ( +2 Race, +5 Bioware 14)
STR 3 (+1 Bio 4)
CHR 1 (+2 Race 3)
INT 3
WIL 5

Skills
Athletics Running 5/7
Sorcery Spellcasting 5/7
Etiquette 2

Cyberware
Synthetic cyberfoot X 2 Alpha (.56 Essence)
Cyberskates

BioWare
Muscle Toner 4 (1.6 Bio index)
Suprathyroid gland (1.4 Bio Index)
Synaptic Accell 2 (1.0 Bio Index)
Enhanced Articulation (0.6 Bio Index)
Trauma Dampener (0.4 Bio Index)
Reflex Recorder specific skill>running (0.1 Bio Index)

I bought 2 Grades of initation with SP to gain the metamagics Sielding and Movement and a magic rating of 4 then I spent spent 25K on an extra spellpoint so I could get a lvl 4 Stunbolt

Heres how my math came out. Making an athletics test against a TN of 3(Base of 4. 3 for aptitude) With reflex rec and enhanced artic adding 2 Dice to my skill leavign me with 9 dice for the test. I think every 2 successes increases your quickness by 1 for the purpose of running. So with the Ideal 9 successes or +4 Quickness that bumps my quickness to 18. Now times that by 6 for using the cyberskates with comes out at 108 m/ct Now times 108 by 5 for using the movement power and it coes out to 520 m/ct. Does anyone know how to convert that to MPH?

And i still have around 100K left

No, this is not possible because building point generation methods suck and you can't start out as an initiate anywho.

Allergic to HELLHOUNDS? Why not just put "Allergic to Napalm" while you're at it?

Well, not as such.

1.) Your Att Bp's are way off. I stat = 2 Bp. Should be 44.
2.) You skills are a little off. You have 16 pts in skills so 16 BP.

There goes the money aspect so no cyber/bio. The rest looks legal though some Gm's don't allow iniation as a starting character.

How on earth are you getting Night One as 30 BP? 10+5=15 last time I checked…

~J

Don't forget that Bioware cannot raise attributes above the racial maximum, which for an elf is 11.

Woah the fourm went wacky on me while posting this. ill go back and edit the origional.

And what's the problem with this?

bioware still can't raise an attribute above its attribute maximum. for a night elf, that's 12. bonus attribute point doesn't change that, but exceptional attribute can bring it up to 13. you can also only take 1 point of bonus attribute point.

Have you read the Horse shaman description? There are several spirits that grant the Movement power as well, so I don't understand the "ohh this is so uber" thought becuase they can use the Movement power on anyone (and even vehicles though it works differently). It seems like you made a weak one trick pony, honestly.

Never said he was Uber I can make much better combat oriented types but a character that fast is still pretty cool. Now if i really wanted to make him fast I would make him a conjurer and let his spirits use movement while hes using his own. Does the movement power stack like this?

Ok I toned the muscle toner down to lvl 3 and took the exceptional attribute edge QCK and pacisifist flaw. Leaving him with a quickness of 13 and a final max speed of 510 m/ct. How exactly do you convert this to MPH?

Max quickness is 14. 6 + bonus atrribute 1 + 2 for race = 9 X 1.5 (round up) = 14.

No, movement powers don't stack. Just use highest rated one. Go speed racer.

The maximum attributes have 2 parts, Racial Modified Limit, and Attribute Maximum.

For a Night One, the Racial Modified Limit is 8. The Attribute Maximum is 12.

Bonus Attribute Point doesnt change either of those values, it just lets you exceed the first one at character creation. Exceptional Attribute does increase it, to 9 and 14 respectivly.

Just to clarify the terminology people are using.

As far as movment speed, SR has very crappy consistency in what movement rates are and arent possible due to it being designed around game system movment and not reality. Magic and technology do crazy things a lot, possible or not Ive seen similar beofre and it wouldnt surprise me. Course running fast doesnt really let you run the shadows any better... unless you screw up and have to run away...

in wich case you are going a lot faster than most cars

So, I've heard it's possible to break the sound barrier with adepts, but never seen it done. How do you do that?

JaronK

Um, the adept would probably sooner be ripped apart by his own wind resistance.

You forget, wind resistance and a good portion of physics doesn't exist in the canon rules.

-Siege

On a side note, but doesn't bioware still remove points of Magic, even though it's not directly effecting Essence?

yes. you lose magic equal to 1/2 your bio index.

Is there a "stop on a dime" and "precision turning" adept power?

And 'Not get your head ripped off when running into a fly'

Edit: somebody beat me to it

Oh, and that character is great...go working the system

Well, If you could crank up the speed high enough ( > 300m/second) you could outrun most bullets.
If someone can come up with a legit build that can do this please share...

Wouldnt it be 13 as maximum? I thought you ALWAYS rounded down in SR unless otherwise stated?

The attribute-Maximum is rounded-up, according to the BBB (Elfs have a limit for Quickness of 7 / 11)

hmm,i recall a conversation i had on the irc channel about a similar move useing rigger3 rules and a van. it broke the soundbarrier before we even started messing with the engine proper i belive. if this wild horse need to be captured i think i have the metal horse to do it on

Just a thought -- if your GM is the Rat Bastard type (and based on your flaws comment, he probably is) he might point out that you don't have the gear for reflexes taht can cope with your enhanced speed.

Think about it -- say you're running along at 120 meters per second, and a door closes in front of you. Normal human reaction time is on the order of 1/2 a second in a situation like this. That puts you 60 meters past you were when the event happened.

That could hurt quite a bit. Might want to make sure you jack those reflexes up REAL high too (By comparison, after a 300 meter fall, you're only moving at about 50 Meters/second. I reference the Jump Calculator at http://www.jumpshack.com/default.asp?Categ...C&SortBy=DATE_D )

This is my canned responce to any thread involving speeds. This is particulairly directed as Hobgoblin.

What happens when you get REALLY bored? This is!

Well, if you want to get really technical you might disallow the use of that movement power in conjunction with rollerskates - after all, when was the last time you saw a horse with rollerskates? But ruleswise it's a-okay.

But it's possible to twink more for higher speed...

THE FLASH (123 BPs)
Albino Night One Sasabonsam (african Ghoul with x5 running multiplier) Changeling Horse Magician's Way Adept (60 BPs)

Edges & Flaws (-6 BPs)
Distinctive Style (-1)
Allergy(Silver; Severe) (-4)
Cursed Karma (-6)
Computer Illiterate (-3)
Exceptional Quickness (2)
Bonus Quickness (2)
Aptitude(Athletics) (4)
Allergy(Sunlight; Moderate) (-) (Since he gets two 'free' Milds...gotta be fair, ya know )
Blind (-)
Sensitive System (-)
Slow Healer (-)
Pain Resistance 3 (-)

SURGE effects (-6 BPs)
Satyr Legs (6)
Bonus Quickness (2) (Nowhere does it say that you cannot have the same SURGE effect and edge)
Chronic Osteocuspus (-10)
Sensitive Neural Structure 2 (-4) (Munchkin's dream - SURGE wouldn't care if you actually have a datajack...)

Attributes (46 BPs)
B 6
Q 10(12)x6
S 2
C 1
I 5
W 6
E 5
M 6
R 7

Money 400,000¥(20 BPs)
14 extra spell points: 350,000¥
P4MO Treatment (Oxygenated Flourocarbons; +2 dice to all Athletics tests)
Sustaining Focus (Increase Reflexes +3) 1
Armor: Rapid Transit Line Heavy Jumpsuit w/massaging liners, Rapid Transit Line helmet, Armor Jacket, Second Skin Line (7/ add a Large Riot shield, for fun (2/3). All armor modified for Osteocuspus.

Skills (7 BPs)
Athletics 6(12)
Sorcery(Spellcasting) 2/4

Powers
Magic Power 1(Geased because of magic loss; Gesture)
Quickness Boost 6
Increased Quickness 2
Improved Athletics 6

Spell Points (20)
Increase +3 Reflexes 1.
Initiate Grade 1 (Metamagic: Movement)
Bound sustaining focus.

He can't do much, but he sure can run.
Quickness boosted to 18 = 540m/turn.
Running test of 14 dice, with -1 TN.
Average 7 successes: Q 22 x 6 x 5 = 660m/turn.
Maximum 14 successes: Q 25 x 6 x 5 = 750m/turn.

Tactic: Running into his targets at high speeds.
Needs: Centering(Physical). High force armor Spell. Higher Quickness boost.

This assumes The Flash turned Ghoul after he SURGEd, which any kind gm would allow
Not quite at 300m/s, but with 4 more initiate grades he should reach that (Increased Quickness 2 points higher, Boost 4 points higher, Physical centering against penalties/for successes)

Y'know, that's too many edges/flaws.

I think Raven's taking the line that SURGE effects are seperate from normal Edge/Flaws.

SURGE effects from SURGE test do not.

I think I can make soemthing more than twice as fast as snow raven's thing.

You forgot to make him a Tiger shapeshifter. With an essence of 7, we can reach 1050 m/ct, which is close enough to supersonic for our purposes.

Shifters are pointless. Give more gesa say 4(or maybe 5) Get muslce replacement and skates. That'll teach them trying to keep up with you. And from what I gather moore actions does npt make you run faster unless you count MBW level 3+.

MBW makes you run faster with the Quickness boost and the additional Athletics dice, nothing else. You get these with any rating of MBW.

At rating 3 and four you get extra actions that are not phases. As athletics can increase your running speed for a phase as complex action,and you get more actions than phases you can on the first two phases roll your athletics twice in each phase. Making you noticably faster.