Was just looking through the 3e Critters book and something came to mind. What happened to Wraiths?

It seems they were excluded from Critters.

Check Survival of the Fittest for Canon description and stats.

Whoa. Are wraiths actually Horrors???

I always thought that Wraiths were big in Atzlan, so them being a Horror type makes sense.

It's hard to tell. At the very least, Wraiths are Horror-constructs, if not minor Horrors. Thankfully, no demiwraiths have been sighted yet.

I kinda like the old rules on Wraiths from Paranormal Animals of Europe, "The wraith's Spirit Energy rating generally begins at 0, then increases by 1 point for every point (box) of Stun of Physical damage a victim under its influence does to another living being or inanimate structure."

Funny, I always thought of the Nomads as horror-related too...(nasty GM ideas buzzing around in my head)

The only problem with the old wraith rules is that there was nothing to stop them from becoming nigh unto god within days. With those rules they progess in force at an insane rate.

Isn't the highest spirit energy a spirit can accumulate equal to it's force???

I'd have to check. THere are intimations that nomads may be connected to Horrors. Certainly, they have the right pattern of behavior.

It would require some more bookkeeping, but you could make a wraith's Spirit Energy temporary, like vampire essence. Loss rate of 1 point per day.

The old rules for a wraith also altered the spirit energy maximum to double its force.

As for shedim, I have been trying to spot a flaw in the concept of them as a tainted portion of the planes of the dead. Where ancestor spirits come from a hard to find plane where the best and brightest seem to live on, the villanous dead would be easy to use as pawns with merely the promise of renewed life. The cruelest and most trecharous would be the greater shedim, while every bit of greedy street scum could become a regular shedim.

The spirit energy cap prevents it from getting out of hand, but I don't think my group will be seeing these anytime soon. They're almost all mundane; magical threats have them for lunch.

edit: Herald, your description of Shedim reminds me a lot of the Reality Dysfunction series. Have you ever read it? Basically, the dead start coming back from some intermediate dimension and taking over people's bodies. A damn good read, if almost pornographic at times.

The GM always wins teh Shadowrun.

~J

Speaking of the GM always winning...

City dwellers have to deal with fly-by pigeon crapping.

Can you imagine a dragon with indigestion?

-Siege

The end was cheesy, but overall I really enjoyed the books. I especially liked the Edenists with their biotech.

Peter Hamilton has another series out that is near future involving a psionic detective. Those books read a lot like Shadowrun, except without trolls, elves, etc.

As far as the wraith go, they do sound like mini horrors. At least in terms of what they do and how they do it.

What's the name of that detective series? I'm getting desperately low on fresh reading material.

P.S. Sorry for contributing to topic drift, but this topic was doomed the minute dragon poop started flying.

Falling. The instant the dragon poop started falling.

Although I suppose that depends on what the dragon was doing at the time...

-Siege

The books are and year of publication are:

1993 Mindstar Rising
1994 A Quantum Murder
1995 The Nano Flower

They are collectively known as the Greg Mandel series, as that is the name of the main character.

Strangely enough, Peter Hamilton also wrote a book called Fallen Dragon