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Fortune
Since almost anything can be DNI-adapted (not that you would need to go to that extreme here), there should be no reason for any gun-mounted accessories not to be controllable via Smartlink.

As for manufacturers assuming that any gunbunny with a SL also would have cybereyes, I think that's just plain wrong. There are a horde of metas out there who are quite happy with their already-better-than-breeder eyes. Not to mention military and security assets, where an implanted SL would be much more likely than augmented sensory cyber. Manufacturers don't build for the shadows ... they just take them into account on occasion in their marketing.
Stumps
Wasn't that what the goggles were made for...or did I miss your point.
I think I missed your point.
Fortune
QUOTE (Stumps @ Nov 3 2004, 02:40 PM)
I think I missed your point.

My point is on the subject of whether or not a Smartlink includes the capability to turn on/off a gun-mounted flashlight. My position is that of 'Duh! Why wouldn't it?' smile.gif

My other point was to the earlier statement (in the gun write-up) that manufacturers would assume that anyone who uses a Smartlink (implanted or not) would automatically have cybereyes, and therefore would not need to be catered for in any other way. I was pointing to the flaw in that logic, and the larger-than-implanted-Smartlink-alone market for those Corps. smile.gif
Stumps
I actually view it like anything is today.

SL would be a standard concept of an item.
Many variations of it would exist depending on what you need and prices would subtley alter depending on what version, that has "x" stuff on it, you get.
Of course, you can custom order them, but like anything, that costs a little more, but most people don't need them customed and can find what they need already produced.

The lowest stripped down version would be the goggle version that only does targeting and that's it.

The highest version would be something akin to a cyber-implant that networks with cyber-radio comm controls, flashlights, laser sights, magazine ejection, fire mode switching, targeting, link-ups with internal heads-up displays, GPS locators based on all allies using a radio comm unit that has been communicated with or manually entered into your system and is on, track rounds left in weapon, answer e-mail, play video games, order pizza, start your car, and open your garage door.

(orange colored text is more of a joke)
Stumps
I'm almost done with the first Case.

It needs to be edited and that's about it.

I have to admit.
I aimed to do this comically...but something just happened when I started writing it in novel form.

I ended up with about 15 pages in MS Word and it has funny moments, but it has sad ones, and action packed ones too...
It's turned into a short story off of a little submission.

I think i might have failed at the original goal of doing CLUE file style stuff and instead succeeded at converting peoples submissions into extremely flavored novel versions of their outlined run.

I'll tell you what though. I fricken love this story. Maybe because it's my first...but it was great writing it.
Nikoli
Mayhaps, when you have more put together, it can be assembled into a colection of sorts and you can make some money and help expand the brand so to speak.
Stumps
I don't think my writing is that good.
It's entertaining...but book selling? err...probably not.
Nikoli
Hey, R.A. Salvatore has made an entire genre of the concept of gaming sessions become books.
Kagetenshi
Which raises the question: how much pride do you have, if any?

~J
Nikoli
lol
Jason Farlander
I, personally, would *love* to sell out and trade my pride for $s. If only I had the opportunity...
Nikoli
then log on and make that opp. If D&D the movie can make money so can you.
Jason Farlander
Wait, back up. The D&D movie made money???
Nikoli
Well, not in the traditional hollywood sense, rumor has it no movie other than the Passion or BLair Witch has made money on paper (this from an actor friend of mine) of course, if you believe that then hollywood would have shriveled up years ago.

I imagine it made some since there are rumors of a sequal (supposedly written by people that actually play the game)
Stumps
Ok everyone.
I'm gonna be in minor surgery tomarrow and I don't know how long they're going to keep me, so the story that I almost finished might have to wait a few days until I get out.
Sorry about that. frown.gif

I think I'm going to have a "Stories" section and a "SLEUTH cases" section.

People keep submitting these "Cases" to me that they claim are real funny and I read them and find them to be just plain damn good story material.

Don't get me wrong. There's a couple good laughs among the submissions that are going to make it to the Case Files for sure.

*aiming at missles...that was priceless.*
toturi
Nooo! They are going to turn Stumps into a cyberzombie and implant a cortex bomb in him! We're gonna have to plan an extraction!

biggrin.gif Good luck for your surgery.
Kremlin KOA
Extraction team almost assempled, we have a guy with a lear jet, two former AUS SASone ex US marine I need a hacker to infiltrate the hospital records and tell me where in the building he is... oh wait you were joking embarrassed.gif
Stumps
biggrin.gif lol!

Well that EX marine would have some problems being that I'm Active Army on an instilation in Korea. grinbig.gif

Oh...and that hacker would have a hell of a time with the wiring jobs and tech systems used over here in Korea.
(which has gotten me thinking about decking in SR...there could be VERY hard problems)

Thanks for the cheers guys. cyber.gif
Nikoli
Which part of Korea (guy I work with used to run a good portion of the Army network there a few years back)?
Stumps
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Nikoli
I'll have to see where he worked.

Ever know a guy named Godsey?
Stumps
[SIZE=7]um...dude. There's an amazing amount of people here.

Here's a brief idea of my chances of knowing someone you know here.

(The orange dot is me. The red dot is the person you know.)
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So I guess I'm saying....not that I know of...no.
Nikoli
well, it would have been like 6 or more years since he left.
DocMortand
Okay, everybody watch for Stumps to return - if he doesn't then we know somebody has successfully implanted a personachip inside him and he's now Fred Granger, Tech O3. *grin*

Good luck on the surgery, Stumps....come back safe. smile.gif
Wounded Ronin
Let's hire Japanese shadowrunners who have honor.
DocMortand
Are you saying non-Japanese have no honor? Don't make me get kung-fu on you!
Stumps
I'm back from my sugery!

I'm alive. I can't feel my butt or my um...little guy thanks to the shot they gave me for the surgery though.

I have the next 14 days off though! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
So I think I'll be able to write some bit on the SLEUTH site.
HURRAY!!!
DocMortand
QUOTE (Stumps)
I'm alive. I can't feel my butt or my um...little guy thanks to the shot they gave me for the surgery though.

Oooooookay. WAY too much info there...

Congrats on making it back to us alive, tho! I hope feeling returns to you soon...use your convalescence wisely. smile.gif
Stumps
Thanks for the welcome back.

Sorry for the TMI.

Feeling came back....I wish it hadn't.
OOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god they gave me percocet!

I'll try to get right back on top of things this weekend...hopefully tomarrow!
Kagetenshi
I don't think we want to know what the surgery was.

~J
Stumps
It was my knee.
It had hardened cartlidge tangled in my tendin.

they gave me a shot that numbed the lower half of my body.
Nikoli
ouch, my condolences.

here's to top notch pain meds and the Mai Tai's that wash them down grinbig.gif
Stumps
Thanks for the condolences.
Yeah, meds are good.

As an update...I've been pretty doped up, so focus is slow going, but my wife back home is editing the manuscript of the story.
As soon as she's done and I convert her corrections to HTML I'll post it.

I'm sorry for the wait on this one.
I'll be starting the next one soon hopefully, and the blooper ones I'm going to start posting as well here soon.

Sorry about the wait here, and thank you for the patience.
DocMortand
Hey, take your time man. I've had major surgery myself, I know it takes a while to get back on your feet and feeling like yourself. (Gallbladder in my case)

Best wishes, and I await your first posting with anticipation!
Wounded Ronin
Drink beer and eat an apple.
Stumps
heh...stopped drinking.

25 now...2 years straight of that back when I was 19 cured the urge

Just out of curiosity...we wouldn't happen to have any tallented artists around here would we?
Sabosect
Big ouch on the knee. Well, I wish you the best and hope it causes you no other troubles.
Sahandrian
QUOTE (Stumps @ Nov 6 2004, 02:35 PM)
Just out of curiosity...we wouldn't happen to have any tallented artists around here would we?

I'm not that great, but two of my players are rather talented (check tengoku.deviantart.com and akafalimiede.deviantart.com if you care to see), and you could always try the Shadowrun Art group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SRartgroup/
Stumps
Thanks for the link!

I asked for some help over there. I'll keep my fingers crossed. smile.gif
Sir_Psycho
We should have a low-glow tac illuminator. One that only provides benefits to those with low-light vision, and therefore doesn't give your position away to breeder meat eyes.
wargear
How in the seven hells did you manage to dig up a two year dormant thread?

Scratch that. Why did you dig it up?
ShadowDragon8685
He probably did a forum search and didn't see the timestamp. A two-year-old thread looks the same as last week's thread.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (wargear)
How in the seven hells did you manage to dig up a two year dormant thread?

Scratch that. Why did you dig it up?

Because he wanted to discuss tactical illuminators. I think SR needs tactical illuminators; don't you? In the first place, they're great for atmosphere (especially during a bug hunt), but on top of that they're a great low-cost alternative to cybereyes. You never have to worry about forgetting your flashlight if it's attached to your sidearm and you always take your sidearm.
Butterblume
Wouldn't a low-glow tac illuminator be the same as a lowlight flashlight? Got one nyahnyah.gif.
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (Butterblume)
Wouldn't a low-glow tac illuminator be the same as a lowlight flashlight? Got one nyahnyah.gif.

Well, the idea is to have it mounted on your weapon so that a noncybered individual doesn't also have to hold a flashlight. Also, there can't possibly be any GM dickery where the GM says that since you're holding a flashlight or have it in a pocket or something the light isn't shining directly at your target and therefore you get additional penalties.
ShadowDragon8685
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin)
QUOTE (Butterblume @ Dec 18 2006, 05:17 PM)
Wouldn't a low-glow tac illuminator be the same as a lowlight flashlight? Got one nyahnyah.gif.

Well, the idea is to have it mounted on your weapon so that a noncybered individual doesn't also have to hold a flashlight. Also, there can't possibly be any GM dickery where the GM says that since you're holding a flashlight or have it in a pocket or something the light isn't shining directly at your target and therefore you get additional penalties.

Is that anything like Superdickery?
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Dec 18 2006, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE (Butterblume @ Dec 18 2006, 05:17 PM)
Wouldn't a low-glow tac illuminator be the same as a lowlight flashlight? Got one nyahnyah.gif.

Well, the idea is to have it mounted on your weapon so that a noncybered individual doesn't also have to hold a flashlight. Also, there can't possibly be any GM dickery where the GM says that since you're holding a flashlight or have it in a pocket or something the light isn't shining directly at your target and therefore you get additional penalties.

Is that anything like Superdickery?

Yes. Considering the power the GM weilds in the game world it's exactly like Superdickery.

So, be warned! If your GM sits down wearing a blue anatomy-revealing bodysuit and red underwear with a belt outside of that he may be out to inflict superdickery on you!
Kagetenshi
I've had many GMs, and one or two of them were even dicks, but I've never had a GM stop Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane's song from becoming a hit.

~J
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
I've had many GMs, and one or two of them were even dicks, but I've never had a GM stop Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane's song from becoming a hit.

~J

He never had Lois Lane be a popular musical performer who gets abducted by ant spirits and is partially transformed into an ant before being rescued by the PCs which forces her to withdraw from the public eye while snack manufacturing intruige whirls around the whole affair?
Kagetenshi
No, he never had that happen, either. Maria Mercurial, on the other handů nyahnyah.gif

~J
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