I hope that' a joke, because on any real spacecraft that's physically impossible to do to an airlock.

Nah, I've seen it done (more or less that way anyway) in lots of movies. Oh and please, before realism rears it's ugly face here - read Sabosects post where it says "troll sammy"...

Ack, I'm a noob... those tags look nothing like they should...

What physical thing prevents an annoyed astronaut from opening both doors in the US space shuttle airlock? The crew decks have no interior airtight bulkheads, just the outer shell and doors.

For a normal character, yes, but troll sammies tend to tear through armor plating like tissue paper. I can see the troll accidentally putting a fist through an airlock door like a normal human might do with a window.

Er, what?

Actually I can answer this because I've been to space camp a few times. (GEEK!) I've walked through a few life size mockups of this firsthand, and I've been through their technical and engineering specs.

On all docking rings and on the lower deck between the cargo bay and the crew compartment there is in fact an airlock, it's controlled only incidentally by the crew, and the inside door will nto open uless the pressure in the lock is within a certain% of the cabin pressure, and the outside door will not open unless it's within a certain% of squat. Incidentally, the airlock can't even be operated IN the airlock, it's operated from the mid deck inside th shuttle, outside of the airlock. Read here for a better explanation.

The main door, upper deck left side, the one they enter is built like a wedge that uses the pressurized cabin to hold it shut inaddition to the physical locking mechanisms, so even if you were able to unlock it you couldn't physically open it where there's no atmosphere.

The space stations are built the same way.

It's explicitly designed so that you cannot physically do that.

Yes, but this is a troll. Troll PCs tend to have enough strength to use steel the way most humans use modeling clay.

Hmm.

Open the inner airlock door while the airlock is pressurized, then operate the airlock depressurization valve. That's not quite the same as venting the ship by opening the outer airlock hatch, but the option for sabotage via the depressurization valve seems present.

As for interior operation:

Still, you'd figure there'd be options for airlock redesign on SR semiballistics and suborbitals that enhances the integral resistance to opening both doors at once, some mechanical pressure sensitive trick.

Then again, you might figure the spacecraft designers skimped on such safety features. Target: WL notes that Ares space station modules are more prone to failure than others.

Most trolls != PC trolls. Player character trolls tend to be based on "if I hit it really hard, nothing can survive" and rarely have a strength below 13. Yes, there are exceptions, but they are not most PC trolls.

Basically, except he will not take damage every round unless he tries to percieve/project. As long as they dont try to contact astral space, mages and adepts are fine, i just believe they have a "dead, throbbing feeling or headaches"

Fascinating, I just realized something. No matter how powerful and influential dragons are and have been through the years, they will fall into irrelevancy in the next two centuries or so as humanity migrates to the stars while they are left behind, unable to leave the manasphere of Earth.

They suffer badly. See BitBasher's post above yours.

Technically, you can work magic in space. It's just got a background count of 10, a very lethal environment for working magic, assensing, or being dual natured.

In heavily inhabited space stations, the background count drops to 9 and sometimes 8, and the moon has a base background count of 8. This that a mage trying to cast a spell in those locations has a chance to scream before dying.

Background counts drop on well-populated space stations, like by 1 for stations with tens of people on board and by 2 for stations with hundreds of people on board. Extrapolating, a space station with millions of people on board (e.g., O'Niell's Island Three) would have a background count of 3 or 4.

Of course, the dragon has to figure out how to get there, but it'll be able to survive thereafter.

Well, the "baddie" wouldn't actually "pop." He'd pass out in 15-30 seconds, then die of asphyxiation. His physical injuries suffered before death would be akin to a diver quickly rising by about 10 meters: some bends-type damage, a risk of lung embolisms, etc. Afterward, there'd be gradual evaporation of body fluids, but the "explosive" in "explosive decompression" only refers to what happens to the air in the spacecraft, not to metahumans. (Unless it's a Hollywood version of explosive decompression.)

The book it's in is Target: Wastelands. They have a whole chapter on space, and several chapters on slightly less deadly environments.

In all reality there's not any good reasons that that will happen except in extremely limited numbers, despite being a staple of Sci-fi.

Yes but the laws of environmental economics say that when prices here get high enough for minerals due to increased scarcity we will either switch to a substitute at the switch point where cost of a substitute = cost of the scarce mineral. If no substitute is available or higher priced than the scarce mineral you can bet we will ship it home. The future prices may allow for the cost. But my guess is we will never see that. We will probably switch to a substitute before the cost of space mining is justified.

Why do you assume that a Great Dragon could not deal with a background count of 10? Sure it wouldn't be pleasant, but that doesn't mean it would be impossible.

Ummm, first of all it wasn't a *bottle* at all. It was a small statue. Hard to open, those are...

Secondly, AFAIK there's nothing that proved or hinted at the statue was powered by a spirit or *baddie*. In the adventure it stated in the Legwork Section (I think), in the "The Idol" subsection that with X amount of success "...you can tell that its a very powerful focus that seems to draw its power from the Astral but on closer inspection, the power seems to come from somewhere else... <insert evil music/laughter here>

Of course "Bottled Demon" came out before the rules governing the Metaplanes so who knows what the real deal was. I always thought it was just a big set up for the Horrors making appearances in SR.

To your credit, I also seem to remember that "sending the Idol into space," was one of the ways that the adventure suggested it might be possible to destroy the Idol or at least its connection with "somewhere else."

GM: "Of course you can try. What was your Intelligence again?"
Player: "Its 6"
GM: <snickers> "Wrong. it was 6....better yet, how 'bout you just hand over that character sheet and go work on your next one."

Mmmmmn. Maybe as a temporary thing, with some heavy mojo, but I can't see a GD permanantly functioning in a Mana Warp 10.

Why not? IIRC Thor Shots are fairly focused, all in all. A city the size of Seattle would probably have room for quite a few of them to hit while leaving the Arc untouched. Not that Deus is stuck in the Arc anymore…

~J