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GrinderTheTroll

Jan 20 2005, 08:16 PM

Just wanted to point out that Karma Pool changed a bit from SR2 to SR3, with the important difference being how much is used for re-rolls.

For a Standard Test, it's one dice for the first re-roll, 2-dice for the 2nd roll, 3-dice for the third, etc. This is a cumulative amount of dice

1-dice = 1st (1-dice cumulative)
2-dice = 2nd (3-dice cumulative)
3-dice = 3rd (6-dice cumulative)
4-dice = 4th (10-dice cumulative)
5-dice = 5th (15-dice cumulative)
6-dice = 6th (21-dice cumulative)
7-dice ... etc.

Open Tests require spending 1-dice per die to be re-rolled in the Open Test, so 10-dice re-roll means spending 10-Karma Pool dice.

IIRC, SR2 had no such limitations, it was one-dice per re-roll.

SR3.246 is where you can find this stuff.

Kagetenshi

Jan 20 2005, 08:18 PM

How odd. I always thought it went by powers of 2. Much more convenient for high-KP characters.

~J

Jrayjoker

Jan 20 2005, 08:18 PM

Thanks, that clears up a few questions I had. In addition, it makes the mages a bit more scary at high levels for conjuring great from spirits, etc.

GrinderTheTroll

Jan 20 2005, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)

Just wanted to point out that Karma Pool changed a bit from SR2 to SR3, with the important difference being how much is used for re-rolls.

For a Standard Test, it's one dice for the first re-roll, 2-dice for the 2nd roll, 3-dice for the third, etc. This is a cumulative amount of dice

1-dice = 1st (1-dice cumulative)
2-dice = 2nd (3-dice cumulative)
3-dice = 3rd (6-dice cumulative)
4-dice = 4th (10-dice cumulative)
5-dice = 5th (15-dice cumulative)
6-dice = 6th (21-dice cumulative)
7-dice ... etc.

Open Tests require spending 1-dice per die to be re-rolled in the Open Test, so 10-dice re-roll means spending 10-Karma Pool dice.

IIRC, SR2 had no such limitations, it was one-dice per re-roll.

SR3.246 is where you can find this stuff.

Ugh I just re my own post, let me re-state this:

1-KP die = 1st re-roll
2-KP dice = 2nd re-roll (3 total KP spent)
3-KP dice = 3rd re-roll (6 total KP spent)
4-KP dice = 4th re-roll (10 total KP spent)
5-KP dice = 5th re-roll (15 total KP spent)
6-KP dice = 6th re-roll (21 total KP spent)

So re-rolling your 15-dice to summon your Force 14 elemental for the 6th time would cost 21 karma pool dice.

Sorry for the rather confusing initial post.

RedmondLarry

Jan 21 2005, 09:54 PM

QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll)

Open Tests require spending 1-dice per die to be re-rolled in the Open Test, so 10-dice re-roll means spending 10-Karma Pool dice.

Actually, see "Open Tests" on SR3.246. In an open test, its 6 Karma Pool to reroll 3 dice. It uses the same progression (1, 2, 3, 4 cost for each additional) as in your example above for regular tests. It's 55 Karma Pool to reroll 10 dice on an open test.

GrinderTheTroll

Jan 21 2005, 10:49 PM

Thanks for catching that mistake, I completely overlooked that in my revised statement.

mfb

Jan 21 2005, 10:53 PM

stupid open tests.