I'm working on a character in NSRCG and it says that eye cyberware cannot exceed 1.20 Essence. Is this an actual rule or something with NSRCG? If it is a rule, where is it located?

It's a rule. Don't know if it's in M&M or SR3 though.

M&M p 44

Man and Machine, p 44

EDIT: D'oh, slightly slower on the draw.

Is it dam......... don't have NSRCG (yet), was going to get more eye cyber, oh well i will have to get something else now. Any ideas for the ears, would have come in handy in the last game but i can't decide what i want. Quite tempted with Spatial Recognzer, anyone used it?

torz

My personal shopping list for cyber ears is (in order of importance) dampener, hearing amplifier, high frequency hearing and the recorder.

The dampener and a flare compensator for the eyes because it pretty much eliminates the effects of the flashbangs my GM loves to use.
The hearing amp is nice for eavesdropping.
High frequency hearing means you get cheaper ultrasound vision in the eyes. AND it helps you locate other ultrasound emitters, such as othe rpeople woth ultrasound vis or triggers for alarms.
And the recorder is always nice for capturing the meet with mr. Johnson on tape for blackmail if he tries to screw you over.

Ah, thanks Hermit!

torz x

A Silence spell defeats ultrasound, maybe that's what we're talking about.

And the thermosense organ bioware is another way to detect invisible lurkers.

As far as I know, Ultrasound Vision does not grant LOS for spellcasting purposes.

Thermosense, M&M p 75. It defeats invisibilty spells because instead of allowing you to see anything (such as thermographic vision), it instead grants you an extreme sensitivity for feeling heat, such as that given off by (most) living things. You then get to make a perception test (the table for which is also on 75).

B&E? Lessee....

Cyber replacement (alpha. Which means everything installed has to be alpha too)
Image link
Low-light vis
Flare Compensation
Microscopic Vis
Protective covers
Camera
Retinal Duplication (as high as I could afford)
Rangefinder
Vision Magnification (electronic, 3)

All of that should fit into a pair of cybereyes. Retinal clock isn't really worth the essence. For an extra 1550 you could get a math SPU [1] which comes with built-in stopwatch, alarm clock, chronometer and calculator at the same essence cost. If you have a router (which I'd strongly reccomend anyhow) you could always hook its timer/clock functions up with your image link.

Get the Math SPU instead of the Retinal Clock. Same function, but with way more features.

Edit: As Aes pointed out.

Because the majority of places you B&E into will not be in total darkness? Less use out of thermographic for B&E as compared to something like melee?

And IF the place is in total darkness, you can bring a *very* faint light with you. Just enough to provide ambient lighting fo ryour low-light vision to kick in. Anything that's supposed to guard a completely black room will have thermo or ultrasound vis anyhow, so it's not like you're giving it an advantage over you.

Of course, if you go with low-light vision and eyelights, you can see virtually anything. I like microscopic vision, lowlight vision, eyelights, flare comp, image link, and ultrasound vision for my B&E types. That means I can see if there's someone invisible hanging out around me, and don't need to use a flashlight.

JaronK

I know this has nothing to do with Eyes, but what is the deal with bone lacing?
Is it just a coating that go's on the bone or is it a compleat bone replacement?, is it worth getting as i understand that ceramic will not show up on scanners?
haven't got any books to hand at the moment!

torz

Well, it's "lacing" which is not coating. I'd think of it as veins of a specific material running through the bones... so a person with titanium bone lacing would have titanium viens running through their bones, reenforcing them.

JaronK

Well, I give them high frequency hearing so they'll notice other ultrasound. Sure, the essence is high, but a B&E character needs to be able to operate alone, which means not having a mage to tell them if there's someone invisible running around near them. The ability to fire off an IR smoke grenade and run away while still being able to see a bit helps too...

JaronK

Nope, white noise is radio waves, not sound. Otherwise, it'd be unbearable to have a strong WN generator running next to you.

M&M.49

I'm a bit of a Minimalist, but eyes for a B&E.

Natural Low lite.
Eyelights
Image link (for Smart link and Pocket Sec use)
Thermo
Flash Compensation, though i've rarely seen the need for it as most Gm's think that you have, thus don't bother... Though it is a dangerous game.
And Microscopic.


Camara, well considering the commoness of the Pocket Sec, that should be easy to keep on you.
Math SPU 1 is very usefull
Rangefinder isn't all that needed since you shouldn't be shooting much, and if you are you should have the time to aim.

How do you get natural Low Light in Cybereyes? Or are you suggesting that people get that entire list implanted in normal eyes?

The list as RM's. Alpha it down and the essence cost wouldn't be that much. Besides, B&E arn't know to be short on Essence though you do tend to prefer as little Essence loss as posible

Saw the semi-debate on white noise and thought I'd chime in - Audio engineers use white noise in their setups when they go to a new auditorium. They pump the place filled with white noise and then use a special microphone (which is designed to have a flat response from 15 Hz to 30Khz.) to find out what frequencies the auditorium naturally amplify and reduce - then they flatten out the response using equalizers on the sound board.

[Edit] GlassJaw got the description for white noise and pink noise much more concise.

Doc

Came up against wite noise in my last run, I was locked in a small room with the stuff blaring out constantly, had to do a hell of alot of willpower tests, anything you can do to limit it's effects?

torz

Sound Engineer here: Either white or pink. It depends on what equipment you're using and what you're trying to do... if you want to find out where feedback starts, you'll want to use white, not pink.

White noise is most definitely sound. It's rather annoying, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as some people think. Then again, I have to work with it a bit, so maybe I'm just used to it.

JaronK

I don't understand what you're looking for. Earplugs. Sound Damper cyberware. Just ignore it. it doesnt hurt humans, just kind of sounds like loud static like a TV turned to a station that doesnt exist. It's not any more painful than any other sound at the same volume. There's nothing special about it.

If you have Ultrasound Vision it is a problem

torz

The sounds that were afflicting torzzzzz's character may not have been simple white noise. It could have been ultrasound frequencies that cause nausea, dizziness, etc, thus the Willpower tests imposed by the GM. Regardless, I'd say a Select Sound Filter rating 5 would be good enough to block out most of the deleterious effects. And for Cyberears, you could probably just shut it off, although the Ultrasound tends to affect the inner ear (which isn't replaced by cyberears, unless you have a balance augmenter) and cranial nerve rather than the external ear.

Or just turn off your Ultrasound Vision if that is what is causing the trouble with the White Noise.