Full Version: Matrix 2.0
| QUOTE |
| Matrix 2.0! An all-new level of wireless “augmented reality” overlays the real world, unleashing hackers to be mobile digital wizards. |
I know this was just released and that nobody knows anything they can actually share at this point, but this quote jumped out at me. For years people have run games where the Matrix was something for NPCs, and players have complained that decking was to difficult or took to much time from other characters. This snippet makes it sound like they've worked up a way for deckers to be more effective on-the-go.
This is very neat. I had been working on a hacking system for my d20 cyberpunk homebrew with a mission statement that very much resembles the quote above. It'll be interesting to see how closely my concept matches theirs (if at all).
Yes, it'll be nice if the propeller heads can move along witht he party in RT and hack open doors as they go (though this would make electronics B?E specialists less neccessary)
This cries Transhuman Space all over it.
And I only can say one thing to this:
Wooooooot! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
And I only can say one thing to this:
Wooooooot! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
"augmented reality that overlays the real world" makes me think of those tech articles people posted months ago about Honda engine techs using VR monicles that super impose technical schematics over the engine as they look at it.
imagine moving through a room and seeing a machine of some kind:
- the mage sees a machine
- the sam sees a machine
- the decker sees a machine with VR control pannels super imposed over it and VR data flows moving in and out as it does its thing....
[abu]"i am standing here beside myself, mr homer"...[/abu]
imagine moving through a room and seeing a machine of some kind:
- the mage sees a machine
- the sam sees a machine
- the decker sees a machine with VR control pannels super imposed over it and VR data flows moving in and out as it does its thing....
[abu]"i am standing here beside myself, mr homer"...[/abu]
| QUOTE (The_Sarge) |
| This cries Transhuman Space all over it. |
Actually, it reminds me of the IOSHI setting from Ex Machina.
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It could also be constantly building hyperlinks to people's info. If you have this augmented reality gear, either worn or implanted, it makes sense to have some kind of RFID chip to unique identify yourself.
Think about the degree of control megacorps could have with this.
Or the fact that you could meet somebody and have an overview glance of her social status, friends list, calendar openings, etc etc...
</wildCrazyIdea>
It could also be constantly building hyperlinks to people's info. If you have this augmented reality gear, either worn or implanted, it makes sense to have some kind of RFID chip to unique identify yourself.
Think about the degree of control megacorps could have with this.
Or the fact that you could meet somebody and have an overview glance of her social status, friends list, calendar openings, etc etc...
</wildCrazyIdea>
| QUOTE (M¥$T1C) | ||
Actually, it reminds me of the IOSHI setting from Ex Machina. |
Seeing as both precede SR4 and use similar ideas...
| QUOTE (ThatPaolo) |
| [SNIP] <wildCrazyIdea> |
Damn you, and you evil insider knowledge! :mrgreen:
But this is what the things in Transhuman Space actually do. *grins*
Yah, Paolo!
Which puts a whole new level of depth on what it means to be SINless, if the SINless live outside that system.
Which puts a whole new level of depth on what it means to be SINless, if the SINless live outside that system.
Not to mention Shadowtech implant that broadcasts false info, alows hacking of anothers info, etc.
take it a step further, thatpaolo. you could call a taxi by looking at one as it passes--if that one's occupied, it'll route another to your location. go to a restaurant and decide what you want by downloading short simsense clips of someone else eating various menu items.
they really need to massively simplify the decking rules, though. everybody's going to be part-decker.
they really need to massively simplify the decking rules, though. everybody's going to be part-decker.
All we need is a machine that'll transfer said RFID chip into senting BTL signals, and we'd get a cheese Syndicate Wars remake. 
EuroCorp are your friends. Move Along.
EuroCorp are your friends. Move Along.
| QUOTE (Aristotle) | ||
I know this was just released and that nobody knows anything they can actually share at this point, but this quote jumped out at me. For years people have run games where the Matrix was something for NPCs, and players have complained that decking was to difficult or took to much time from other characters. This snippet makes it sound like they've worked up a way for deckers to be more effective on-the-go. This is very neat. I had been working on a hacking system for my d20 cyberpunk homebrew with a mission statement that very much resembles the quote above. It'll be interesting to see how closely my concept matches theirs (if at all). |
I hope it's not as messy as it could potentially be. SR1-2 Matrix was a pain with it's silly level of useless detail.
On a side note, I still like the idea of a decker plugged-in somewhere running the overwatch or having to get him to an inside jackpoint.
/hopes they don't ruin something for sake of nothing better to do.
I just noticed that they used the term "hackers" in the release rather than deckers. Maybe that's just an easier way to get the concept across to potential new customers.
I had this funny idea that deckers would behave like "tech" mages, like in say Anarchy Online, or the techno mages from Babylon 5, that simulate magical effects by using technology.
That would suck.
But the ideas here are more interesting, so there's hope...
That would suck.
But the ideas here are more interesting, so there's hope...
you might be able to get higher speeds on a land-line, and you certainly won't need to worry about broadcast encryption in that case. i think there'll still be a place for sit-and-drool deckers, albeit a greatly reduced place.
what i want to know is, are they finally going to knock down those stupid walls between decking and rigging?
what i want to know is, are they finally going to knock down those stupid walls between decking and rigging?
| QUOTE (The_Sarge) | ||
Damn you, and you evil insider knowledge! :mrgreen: But this is what the things in Transhuman Space actually do. *grins* |
Actually, that's all fruit of my cute little brain, no insider knowldege whatsoever
Maybe they are splitting some stuff up. Decker does the traditional role, hacker is the wireless new fangled tech guy
| QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) |
| On a side note, I still like the idea of a decker plugged-in somewhere running the overwatch or having to get him to an inside jackpoint. |
It would be insanity to have the security measures for your most critical areas on a host that can be accessed wirelessly, unless if its "wireless hotspot" only broadcasts & receives far enough to cover one room, and even then I think most security experts would agree it'd be better to make users actually physically connect.
More likely, what you'll find on the wireless accessible networks are the bits of data that most people would normally find usless, but a crafty decker can exploit. You're doing an extraction run on some high level exec, but he's not in his office? A check of the division's master planning schedule says that there's a meeting on the 5th floor, and list his name as one of the attendees. That sort of thing.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| you might be able to get higher speeds on a land-line, and you certainly won't need to worry about broadcast encryption in that case. i think there'll still be a place for sit-and-drool deckers, albeit a greatly reduced place. what i want to know is, are they finally going to knock down those stupid walls between decking and rigging? |
Here! Here!
Okay. This was enough to drag me back to Dumpshock.
If everyone is part-decker and is experiencing this Matrix overlay on reality, you are going to get a technomage effect. Someone puts Scrambler IC (or whatever) on your image, suddenly other people can't see through the Matrix overlay on you: technoinvisibility. Or imagine triggering an IC attack just by looking at something (the overlay says "If you can read this, you're dead.").
EDIT: This is actually sounding a bit more like GitS.
EDIT: This is actually sounding a bit more like GitS.
| QUOTE (Aristotle @ Mar 15 2005, 12:47 PM) |
| I just noticed that they used the term "hackers" in the release rather than deckers. Maybe that's just an easier way to get the concept across to potential new customers. |
Or maybe it's because decker has become a deragatory term for someone who actually jacks into a cyberdeck and vegs out in the meatworld.
Losers.
now that would be badass.
Well, you know how I'm tapped into the cultural zeitgeist.
So now you see where we've been going...
exactly where i wanted you to go. if only i could somehow use this power for good!
lol, deckers who are too scared to infilitrate with the team are lame anyway.
Echo mfb. We've been waiting on you guys.
Whoa. Sudden thought:
In a wireless, constant-overlay Matrix..
Think about the power an AI could have. *evil grin*
In a wireless, constant-overlay Matrix..
Think about the power an AI could have. *evil grin*
Or, as someone already pointed out, corps.
Just take the stuff in SSG about appliances, and apply it to people.
Just take the stuff in SSG about appliances, and apply it to people.
You think....
This is gonna be sweet, and scary all at once. Will there be rules for GitS-style brain-hacking? 'cause that would kick.
This discussion is starting to remind me of the conversation Ambrose had with... er... whathisname back in Virtual Realities 2.0 on whether or not being able to control an entirely simulated reality should be considered "Real" Power.
By 2070, I think it'd be easier to answer that question.
By 2070, I think it'd be easier to answer that question.
| QUOTE (System Crash blurb) |
| Apocalyptic terrorists strike around the world... |
i'd just like to say that i called this months ago!
Yes. Yes. We know. Now go have a cookie.
*munches on a cookie* heh.
Yeah, if they implement GitS style matrixes, I know at least one of my players will jump on that in a flash (as would I, were I a player) That would be so insanely cool.
Yeah, if they implement GitS style matrixes, I know at least one of my players will jump on that in a flash (as would I, were I a player) That would be so insanely cool.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| what i want to know is, are they finally going to knock down those stupid walls between decking and rigging? |
That's part of the plan, yes.
What walls? Between each other or between them and the regular folks?
Ohhhhhh, a freelancer ... catch him for interrogation!
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Sounds like the answer is Yes to me. *dances a happy dance*
then the matrix/rigging rules will technojesus. no, wait. it will be ten technojesi.
| QUOTE (Bigity) |
| What walls? Between each other or between them and the regular folks? |
i was specifically referring to the ones between each other, but "yes" is a suitable answer to your query.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| then the matrix/rigging rules will technojesus. no, wait. it will be ten technojesi. |
Is this a bad thing or a good thing, mfb?
jesus is always good, you pagan heathen! multiple jesi are, by extension, better.
Ha! It's about time some of the cool stuff from Cybergeneration found its way into Shadowrun. I can't wait to see IC jump on meatbody characters.
Man, I like riggers being different from deckers.
| QUOTE (apple) |
| Ohhhhhh, a freelancer ... catch him for interrogation! |
If I can tell you about it without violating my NDA, then I will. I don't think I've violated that spirit yet, so....
Whatcha wanna know?
where do babies come from? also, are there going to be more rules for using trode rigs instead of datajacks? if you can use trodes to surf the Matrix, you should be able to use a trode rig to control your smartgun, even if its a lesser degree of control than a datajack or cybernetic smartlink would offer.
Wow, that was obscure.
How about "does the world map change much?"
How about "does the world map change much?"
| QUOTE (Patrick Goodman) |
| Whatcha wanna know? |
Got an open seat at your table?
It'd be a heck of a commute.
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